The case for Rex Ryan as new DC
 

Here’s why I’d be happy bringing in Rex Ryan to coach the defense...

1st is we wouldn’t need to overhaul the entire defense as the schemes are similar...but the philosophy is different.

Bob Sutton’s years as NYJs DC team rankings

First year
13th yards ...6th in points
2nd year
18th yards...19th points
3rd year
17th yards...18th points

Rex Ryan takes over HC the following year in09

1st year
1st in yards...1st in points

2nd year
3rd in yards....6th in points

Drastic and immediate improvement

More stats to come on why I think Rex would be a good hire...

no no no no no.

We just fired a Rex Ryan disciple and you want more?

Dude....really?

Can you imagine Andy sharing a sideline with Rex?

Same. ****ing. Scheme.

**** right off with this shit.

Not enough room on the sideline.

Everyone would be bumping guts trying to get around each other

Puke

That scheme doesn't work anymore...

I don't think Andy could handle a personality like that so high up on the coaching staff.

Yep, and a disaster at Buffalo. D went from one of the best in the league to one of the worst upon his arrival.

Rex Ryan was crushing Sutton yesterday on ESPN about not making adjustments and the scheme, so there's that.

People are going to shit on the idea but here’s why I think it’s solid.

Rex is a guy who will inspire the room. He will give them confidence and have them playing hard with swagger. That’s something we’ve lacked desperately the past few years.

I would be fine with Rex.

Same scheme does NOT mean same results. This would be great to have a HC as DC, its what would be perfect for Andy. Rex would have complete control over the D.

Rex was freaking out about the lack of adjustments from Sutton. Rex knows how to beat the Patriots!!

DO IT!!!

Clark likes preppy boys. Not a good fit.

Isn't Ryan is out of the league right now because his brand of defense doesn't work with the current rules etc?

Kris Richard is who I'd look at provided he'd leave Dallas, he's had 2 jobs with top level D's and he's great with DB's.

Give me Del Rio

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This was Rex Ryan yesterday: <br><br>“<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> are going to throw their draft at new blood on defense. If they developed any sort of defense from here moving forward they’ll be an unstoppable football team.”</p>&mdash; Jarrett Sutton (@JarrettTSutton) <a href="https://twitter.com/JarrettTSutton/status/1087801968561700866?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Just because Sutton used the 3-4 scheme similar to Ryan, does NOT mean the results will be similar whatsoever.

Sutton is the one who couldn’t get these guys to play aggressively, couldn’t make adjustments.

People think this because Sutton was on Ryan's Jets staff..although I think at one point Rex took away his playcalling.

They would need to request permission to talk to him but i mentioned him a couple days ago as a possibility. Also, I’d take any of the position coaches from Baltimore or even Seattle.

Or Chicago.

Then why is Ryan unemployed?

Is there any Team in the NFL using the Ryan defense right now?

Well it really comes down to Andy and if he is willing to give up personnel decisions on the defensive side of the ball. Can you see anyone who is worth their salt and personality like a Ryan not having any say so in personnel in what they want to do ??

We will soon find out if AR still wants a "yes man".;)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Here’s a name to watch for the now vacant Chiefs’ DC job, per sources: former Jets and Bills’ HC and current ESPN analyst Rex Ryan, who has been approached about other DC openings in recent seasons.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1087799963466326017?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 22, 2019</a></blockquote>
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Article discussing how Ryan killed Buffalo's defense.

https://www.theringer.com/2016/12/27...fl-428163700e1

No. Take a hungry defensive assistant from a team that has had a top 10 defense the last five years.

Watch Andy promote Emmitt Thomas or his son? I guess that would be one way to keep his son employed, make him his DC.

Not only is he unemployed, but has been for three years.

No. I've had enough of this defense. Ditch the scheme entirely.

The only reason I could see this is this defense needs an attitude. A swagger. A filthy mouthed asshole to get in everyone’s ass. Rex Ryan fits that profile. Plus, he knows his X’s and O’s defensively.

Agreed, love it

Rex’s version of his defense is unlike Sutton’s version.

He wasn’t a good HC, but he’s a great DC. Very good at developing guys and making in game adjustments.

I think he would be a high quality hire

I've always thought highly of Rex as a DC, and didn't think he was a bad HC either to be honest. Dragged the Jets into the AFCCG once or twice, including beating the Patriots in Foxboro once to do it. He's an odd duck, but a helluva coach IMHO.

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Sign Rex and trade for PP or Ramsey and this team will win a Super Bowl in the next year or 2.

This.

We all think of him from his HC days, but that’s a far more complex and detailed job.

Rex is a guy who Andy can delegate the defense to with full trust and just let him lock in on that side of the football. I think it could get us over the hump.

The only upside of a move like that is with his HC experience Reid not paying attention to the defense wouldn't as big of a deal.

Del ****ing Rio!!!!!!!!!

I’ve already saw tweets from even Jets fans who say that Ryan as a DC is a great thing.

Will never get a coaching job in KC. Get over it.

It’s not that easy with new rules. Unless you are offering a HC spot, you need to request permission to interview someone for a DC spot.

Teams don’t always grant permission when it means losing a quality coach that they’ve groomed.

I had forgotten how solid that defense was before Rex murdered it.

They didn't groom him though. He's been there one season.

EDIT: Just noticed you weren't mentioning Richard exclusively.

So what's the history here...

He immediately turned a crap Sutton defense into one of the league's best, then immediately ruined Buffalo's D? Any insight?

His own players turned on him because his defense wasn't even close to aggressive as pettines. And pettine learned from Ryan. Overcomplicared, too conservative... Just seems like we're checking the same boxes again.

*insert joke about feet here*

Boy, so many questions.

Why would Andy Reid want an ex-HC coaching under him? Has he ever had an ex-HC coach under him? 2 huge ego's in the same box? How does Reid view the relationship? Underling? How does Rex Ryan view the relationship? Co-HC?

Great thing is that the list of talented coaches willing to come into the Chiefs situation has to be fairly large.

In an interview with ESPN's Josina Anderson, Bills defensive tackle Marcell Dareus said that "everybody's job is on the line" on the team.

"I like Rex, personally," Dareus said. "I don't like to see anyone get fired.

"Everyone is fighting for their position, so we're at a point where we have to make a change."

Asked why he thought the Bills' defense seemed to regress under Ryan, Dareus told Anderson that he believes "we should've been more aggressive on defense ... because that's the kind of players we have."

"We want to put our foot on the pedal and keep it down knowing what we're doing and being strategic on what we're doing," Dareus said. "Not trying to match up with this team or that team. We want to have our identity [knowing] this is who we are and what we're going to do."

Dareus indicated Ryan's defense was too complicated.

"It was just too much detail for a lot of guys, and I feel like for a lot of guys it was too much going on for them to check here and check there, if this happens and that happens," he said. "Then nine times out of 10, a team will throw something out there that we weren't prepared for -- and then the adjustment to it we had to get used to and try to make it happen and make plays."

Louis Riddick said last night that Reid needs to hire a DC who will let him control the defense. He said Reid is always next to Mahomes after every drive but never with the defense. Rex Ryan fits that profile to a T. Someone who was a coach before and can be trusted to handle the defense by himself. I’m all for this hire. He knows what needs to be done to fix this defense.

CP just got it's offseason burst. We're about to be completely ****ing divided on our DC.

Why?

What did I miss?

In 1987, he was acquired by the Kansas City Chiefs to play outside linebacker, reuniting him with former Saints defensive coordinator John Paul Young. He started 9 games at right outside linebacker, tallying 45 tackles, 2 sacks and one forced fumble.

That season the NFL players went on strike. Throughout this period of time, Del Rio and teammates picketed outside of Arrowhead stadium and were vigilantly watching for replacement players attempting to enter the facility. Del Rio mistakenly mistook former Chiefs wide receiver Otis Taylor for a replacement player and assaulted him. At the time, Taylor was a scout for the Chiefs organization and had been retired for 12 years. Chiefs fans who came across the assault told Del Rio that Taylor was actually an 11-year veteran and legend in the Kansas City Chiefs organization. Taylor would later press charges and the two would settle out of court.[11]

Brent Venables. Young and knows how today's game is played.

Well, he's not unemployed. He's got a cushy studio gig.

IMO it would probably take the right offer from the right team to move him out of that. Perhaps like being the DC of a team that has Patrick Mahomes on the other side of the ball.

Hmmm seems a bit dramatic that this organization would hold onto this grudge, especially since Del Rio admitted he mistakenly mistook him for a replacement player. Both settled outside of court as well.

Yes. Get him some Clemson talent while you're at it.

The more I think of it, the more I love the idea of Rex as DC.

He has a lifelong history of coaching defenses
Andy wants someone to take over the whole defense so he can focus on the offense.
Rex has shown the ability to develop young talent and is a “players coach” with similar style to Andy in terms of letting players personalities shine with their play.
He runs a scheme that the players already have a basic understanding of
He’s great at in game adjustments
He would be able to get the guys attention and teach run defense and attitude

Rex Ryan’s defenses coached 12 years. His defenses finished in the top 10 9 times!

Also makes 2 mil as a college coordinator.

The Ryan family hasn't exactly had a great history serving as the defensive coordinator for teams with explosive offenses.

Rob Ryan clashed with Sean Payton and things ended badly for him with the Saints.

And of course Buddy Ryan famously clashed with Kevin Gilbride (punching him in the face) when he was DC with the Houston Oilers.

"Too complicated. Not aggressive enough."

****. No.

Not on the Del Rio express, but holding 3 decade old grudges can't be healthy.

Well this doesn't sounds familiar AT ALL.

[sarcasm font]

I think del Rio is basically the DC for cincy once the Bengals announce their new head coach.

For those of you saying HELL NO to Rex Ryan I'd like to point out a couple of things..............

Rex Ryan's Worst:

Points = 24th

Rushing Defense = 29th

Passing Defense = 22nd

Yards = 19th

Below I have highlighted with green boxes EVERYTIME his defense was top 10 in each of those categories

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this.

So for those of you keeping count...........

Rex Ryan's Career Averaged out where his defense ranks

Yards = 7th
Passing Defense = 9th
Rushing Defense = 10th
Points = 13th

The Ravens defense is making everyone want Ryan.

We don't have Ed Reid or Ray Lewis on this defense.

If it happens, someone in KC is gonna make a fortune selling barbecued pigs feet.

So according to this, the last time he had a consistently good defense was...

NINE seasons ago.

Rex Ryan was in the top 10 every year he coached at either pass defense or run defense. We were 29th and 31st in run and pass

Yo I'll say it

Those Jets teams that prop up guys like Sutton and Ryan were absolutely STACKED with talent. The fact that Sutton and Ryan have held onto jobs this long after all those guys on the Jets have been out of the league is amazing. Anyone on this board could have coached those Jets defenses to top 10 finishes.

They were solid at every single position on the field. They carried MARK SANCHEZ at QB to two AFC Conference games for goodness sake. Those coaches should get zero credit for that. There was no development, it was all veterans or can't miss prospects that played above and beyond the scheme.

Bob Sutton fielded FOUR top 10 scoring defenses when he was here. In 2014 and 2015, they were one of the best defenses in the league.

Stats don't tell the whole story.

DO NOT want Rex Ryan, there is no case for him. This team needs NEW blood.

yeah, I don’t buy this ego BS. Reid knows as does everyone else, he’s one of the best offensive minds in football. He’s never claimed to be a defensive coach. He obviously needs a coach to take charge of the defense. We just need a middle of the pack defense. Surely Rex Ryan can fit that bill.

His focus, rightfully so is on coaching up Mahomes. We will go as far as Mahomes can take us.

:clap::clap::clap:

Boom goes the dynamite.

He's a pervo, dudes...

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