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dlphg9 09-04-2018 12:49 PM

Cam Erving Extended
 
According to 610

Wtf?

Archie Bunker 09-04-2018 12:49 PM

Chiefs Give Erving Extension
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chiefs announce they’ve signed OL Cam Erving to a contract extension</p>&mdash; Brooke Pryor (@bepryor) <a href="https://twitter.com/bepryor/status/1037048351538245632?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

MMXcalibur 09-04-2018 12:51 PM

To the half-inflated flotation device!

DaKCMan AP 09-04-2018 12:52 PM

LMAO

Deberg_1990 09-04-2018 12:52 PM

They like his upside!

KC Hawks 09-04-2018 12:53 PM

I'd rather they give Julius Erving an extension.

The Franchise 09-04-2018 12:54 PM

Veach, you ****ing moron.

carcosa 09-04-2018 12:55 PM

Lol

carcosa 09-04-2018 12:55 PM

Lol

dj562006 09-04-2018 12:58 PM

6yr 32mil was what someone told me.

pugsnotdrugs19 09-04-2018 12:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj562006 (Post 13708147)
6yr 32mil was what someone told me.

If that’s true, I’m gonna shoot my dick clean off.

siberian khatru 09-04-2018 12:59 PM

To someone who just lost his starting job

Marcellus 09-04-2018 12:59 PM

Just a logical guess here but its to reduce his $1.7MM cap hit (with no cap relief for cutting him) this season which makes you wonder who they may be getting ready to sign.

KC Hawks 09-04-2018 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dj562006 (Post 13708147)
6yr 32mil was what someone told me.

Good first post after waiting 4 and a half years.

pugsnotdrugs19 09-04-2018 01:00 PM

I highly doubt it’s worth much of anything. He’s the swing tackle, that’s it.

Archie Bunker 09-04-2018 01:01 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OT/OG Cam Erving has agreed to a two-year extension with the Chiefs worth up to $15.7M, depending on how much he plays, per source. Deal also includes $6.45M in guarantees and makes him one of the highest-paid swing linemen in the league.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/1037052457636032513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Good god

pugsnotdrugs19 09-04-2018 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13708150)
Just a logical guess here but its to reduce his $1.7MM cap hit (with no cap relief for cutting him) this season which makes you wonder who they may be getting ready to sign.

Earl? :hmmm:

I know it sounds outlandish but this team should be going for it these next couple of years big time..

The Franchise 09-04-2018 01:01 PM

I wonder if it’s so that he’s easily more releaseable later in the season. He’s fully guaranteed righty now.

pugsnotdrugs19 09-04-2018 01:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 13708156)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OT/OG Cam Erving has agreed to a two-year extension with the Chiefs worth up to $15.7M, depending on how much he plays, per source. Deal also includes $6.45M in guarantees and makes him one of the highest-paid swing linemen in the league.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/1037052457636032513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

****.

The Franchise 09-04-2018 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 13708156)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OT/OG Cam Erving has agreed to a two-year extension with the Chiefs worth up to $15.7M, depending on how much he plays, per source. Deal also includes $6.45M in guarantees and makes him one of the highest-paid swing linemen in the league.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/1037052457636032513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Good god

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 13708158)
I wonder if it’s so that he’s easily more releaseable later in the season. He’s fully guaranteed righty now.

Or ****ing not.

Holy ****. Erving ****ing sucks.

The Franchise 09-04-2018 01:03 PM

Officially beats out the Peters trade as Veach’s worst move as a GM.

Sassy Squatch 09-04-2018 01:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 13708156)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OT/OG Cam Erving has agreed to a two-year extension with the Chiefs worth up to $15.7M, depending on how much he plays, per source. Deal also includes $6.45M in guarantees and makes him one of the highest-paid swing linemen in the league.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/1037052457636032513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Good god

This takes Veach down a whole bunch of levels. How the **** could you sit there as an evaluator of professional football players and give this sack of shit that kind of contract.

O.city 09-04-2018 01:04 PM

What the ****? Really?

hometeam 09-04-2018 01:04 PM

wtffffffffff

Mecca 09-04-2018 01:04 PM

For some reason they are in love with this guy...I dunno why.

kccrow 09-04-2018 01:06 PM

This is a joke right? Like, Veach isn't this ****ing reeruned?

Kiimo 09-04-2018 01:06 PM

Somebody post the gif from the first preseason game of Cam and Fisher letting their guys destroy Mahomes.

I'm so irrationally angry about this. I just...I can't today. **** this team.

JakeF 09-04-2018 01:06 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This preseason, Cam Erving allowed 7 total pressures on 53 pass-block snaps.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a></p>&mdash; PFF KC Chiefs (@PFF_Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Chiefs/status/1037049025357402112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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[edited because I suck at math]

Most good offensive linemen are over 90% on pressures. Cam Irving is at 87% this preseason. What is Veach thinking?

TLO 09-04-2018 01:06 PM

HOO BOY

BWillie 09-04-2018 01:07 PM

The ****?

KC Hawks 09-04-2018 01:07 PM

Is Brett Veach Direckshun?

Perineum Ripper 09-04-2018 01:07 PM

Well





****

Archie Bunker 09-04-2018 01:08 PM

Not sure why the Chiefs seem to love overpaying shitty swing tackles. They did the same thing with Jah Reid for a few years. Makes no sense to me.

JoeyChuckles 09-04-2018 01:08 PM

Remember we all agreed on the phrase Son of a Veach.

Please use it appropriately.

Kiimo 09-04-2018 01:08 PM

It's amazing how in four weeks I've gone from "Trust in Veach best young GM in the league" to "The Chiefs are run by a spider monkey on bath salts" but here we are.

What in the everliving ****.

Marcellus 09-04-2018 01:08 PM

What. The. ****.

sedated 09-04-2018 01:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Archie Bunker (Post 13708156)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">OT/OG Cam Erving has agreed to a two-year extension with the Chiefs worth up to $15.7M, depending on how much he plays, per source. Deal also includes $6.45M in guarantees and makes him one of the highest-paid swing linemen in the league.</p>&mdash; Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) <a href="https://twitter.com/TerezPaylor/status/1037052457636032513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2018</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Good god



<img src="https://media2.giphy.com/media/l0IypeKl9NJhPFMrK/giphy.gif">

Shoes 09-04-2018 01:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13708170)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">This preseason, Cam Erving allowed 7 total pressures on 53 pass-block snaps.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a></p>&mdash; PFF KC Chiefs (@PFF_Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Chiefs/status/1037049025357402112?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Most good offensive linemen are over 90% on pressures allowed. Cam Irving is at 13% this preseason. Beyond terrible, what is Veach thinking?

Sorry wouldn't that mean Erving is at 87%? 46/53 snaps he did not allow pressure, or am I reading this wrong?

Either way I hate the move also.

Chiefnj2 09-04-2018 01:09 PM

Should have kept Zach Fulton

SAUTO 09-04-2018 01:12 PM

ROFL

****ing Dorsey strikes again.

JakeF 09-04-2018 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoes (Post 13708184)
Sorry wouldn't that mean Erving is at 87%? 46/53 snaps he did not allow pressure, or am I reading this wrong?

Either way I hate the move also.

I guess I figured it backward. It was 13%, but I need to subtract the 13% from 100 to get the proper pressure %. Sorry, I'm dumb. Thanks for the fix.

dlphg9 09-04-2018 01:12 PM

God damn ****ing idiot. I mean let's not ****ing sign Breeland, but ****ing give some shit hole lineman an extension. Also Brad Fanning is a ****ing idiot.

wazu 09-04-2018 01:12 PM

Not sure how people can melt down over this. Backup lineman on deal that could be heavily incentive laden. Cap move and probably some hope that he develops. Not seeing the big problem.

BlackOp 09-04-2018 01:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shoes (Post 13708184)
Sorry wouldn't that mean Erving is at 87%? 46/53 snaps he did not allow pressure, or am I reading this wrong?

Either way I hate the move also.

Yes...someone needs a basic math refresher coarse...ha.

RunKC 09-04-2018 01:12 PM

Per Terez it sounds like the deal is incentive based on how much he plays.

Sassy Squatch 09-04-2018 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13708192)
Not sure how people can melt down over this. Backup lineman on deal that could be heavily incentive laden. Cap move and probably some hope that he develops. Not seeing the big problem.

He. Is. ****ing. Terrible. 2 teams have tried him at virtually every spot on the OL and he's failed literally every time.

Demonpenz 09-04-2018 01:14 PM

The offensive line is so bad Mahomes is going to last a couple weeks get hurt, come back get hurt again out for the year rehab next year look good all through preseason get hurt ups and downs through another rehab then come back and be shitty then get released then in 2021 the chiefs will be looking for a new qb.

kccrow 09-04-2018 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13708194)
Per Terez it sounds like the deal is incentive based on how much he plays.

6.5 million guaranteed is more than enough to make me want to puke. He isn't worth 1/6th of that.

JakeF 09-04-2018 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 13708185)
Should have kept Zach Fulton

Yep, keep Fulton at center and slide Morse over to LG. Such an improvement at LG would make Fisher's play much better as well.

O.city 09-04-2018 01:17 PM

Morse isn't playing guard. Can we move on from that ****ing idea?

ChiefAshhole1056 09-04-2018 01:18 PM

My only guess is that they like the fact they can plug him anywhere on the line if a starter goes down (flexibility allows the extra roster spots for other positions) and they like how he’s progressing.

Other than that his tape has been ass and he doesn’t deserve near that type of money. Hopefully Veach knows what he’s doing here.

O.city 09-04-2018 01:19 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs will pay Cam Erving $10 million over the next three seasons, with incentives based on snaps that would push it higher. There’s value in versatility — Chiefs think he can play guard, center and tackle.</p>&mdash; Sam Mellinger (@mellinger) <a href="https://twitter.com/mellinger/status/1037054400546701313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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JakeF 09-04-2018 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13708193)
Yes...someone needs a basic math refresher coarse...ha.

It's been a long time since i've done any math. ROFL

New World Order 09-04-2018 01:19 PM

Because we are the Chiefs

CoMoChief 09-04-2018 01:22 PM

wtf????

The Franchise 09-04-2018 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13708211)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs will pay Cam Erving $10 million over the next three seasons, with incentives based on snaps that would push it higher. There’s value in versatility — Chiefs think he can play guard, center and tackle.</p>&mdash; Sam Mellinger (@mellinger) <a href="https://twitter.com/mellinger/status/1037054400546701313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Sure but the question is can he play all three of those well. And the answer to that is no.

staylor26 09-04-2018 01:22 PM

How the **** does a guy get an extension after he gets benched?

LMAO

O.city 09-04-2018 01:22 PM

I mean, I get that he can passably play 3 spots. But if that's the case, why the hell do we need all the other 5 backup lineman?

weird.

Sassy Squatch 09-04-2018 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13708211)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs will pay Cam Erving $10 million over the next three seasons, with incentives based on snaps that would push it higher. There’s value in versatility — Chiefs think he can play guard, center and tackle.</p>&mdash; Sam Mellinger (@mellinger) <a href="https://twitter.com/mellinger/status/1037054400546701313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I must be versatile as **** then, because I can do a lot of things at a bottom of the barrel level.

O.city 09-04-2018 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 13708222)
Sure but the question is can he play all three of those well. And the answer to that is no.

Well, if he could play one that well, he wouldn't be a backup or swing player.

RunKC 09-04-2018 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13708211)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs will pay Cam Erving $10 million over the next three seasons, with incentives based on snaps that would push it higher. There’s value in versatility — Chiefs think he can play guard, center and tackle.</p>&mdash; Sam Mellinger (@mellinger) <a href="https://twitter.com/mellinger/status/1037054400546701313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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So he’s making a little over $3 million average unless he is forced to play? And people wanted to keep Fulton?

This deal is HALF of what Fulton just got. Paying a guy $3 million per year isn’t that much. It’s less than 2% of the salary cap.

Fish 09-04-2018 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13708211)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The Chiefs will pay Cam Erving $10 million over the next three seasons, with incentives based on snaps that would push it higher. There’s value in versatility — Chiefs think he can play guard, center and tackle.</p>&mdash; Sam Mellinger (@mellinger) <a href="https://twitter.com/mellinger/status/1037054400546701313?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 4, 2018</a></blockquote>
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I bet he could play male cheerleader as well. That doesn't mean we should make him the highest paid male cheerleader in the league...

JakeF 09-04-2018 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13708206)
Morse isn't playing guard. Can we move on from that ****ing idea?

My plan is better than what the Chiefs just did.

O.city 09-04-2018 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13708233)
My plan is better than what the Chiefs just did.

Ok.

It still stands that Morse won't ever play G.

JakeF 09-04-2018 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13708230)
So he’s making a little over $3 million average unless he is forced to play? And people wanted to keep Fulton?

This deal is HALF of what Fulton just got. Paying a guy $3 million per year isn’t that much. It’s less than 2% of the salary cap.

You are still playing a guy that sucks.

Mecca 09-04-2018 01:27 PM

The Chiefs tend to place to much value in versatility, that's how Sorenson got paid too..

I get a OL that can play 3 spots is helpful when you can only dress so many guys but geez.

Mecca 09-04-2018 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13708235)
You are still playing a guy that sucks.

This is the truth, he's alright at tackle like good enough to fill in for a game or 2, but on the interior he just isn't strong enough.

JakeF 09-04-2018 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13708234)
Ok.

It still stands that Morse won't ever play G.

Congratulations, you're right.

You're right and we suck.

Red Dawg 09-04-2018 01:29 PM

And we thought the Raiders screwed up? What the hell is this shit?

O.city 09-04-2018 01:29 PM

Yeah, looking around the league at the OL problem, if someone gets hurt you're usually playing something that's awful. Atleast Erving isn't awful?

I dunno. I'm pretty much punting on this.

Sassy Squatch 09-04-2018 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13708230)
So he’s making a little over $3 million average unless he is forced to play? And people wanted to keep Fulton?

This deal is HALF of what Fulton just got. Paying a guy $3 million per year isn’t that much. It’s less than 2% of the salary cap.

Lol. Fulton can actually play football at a competent level. Erving just got benched.

dlphg9 09-04-2018 01:30 PM

It makes absolutely no sense. He's already signed, so he will be able to back up this year. Then we could use a pick to draft someone that'll be just as good and probably better than him and not waste the money on his worthless ass

The Franchise 09-04-2018 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13708241)
Yeah, looking around the league at the OL problem, if someone gets hurt you're usually playing something that's awful. Atleast Erving isn't awful?

I dunno. I'm pretty much punting on this.

Then don’t brag about his versatility if that’s the case because dude sucks at OG and OC. Come out and say....he’s our swing tackle. Dude just got beat out at the LG spot and gets an extension.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-04-2018 01:31 PM

Did we cut Tyreek to come up with the money ?

The Franchise 09-04-2018 01:31 PM

My only hope is that it will be easy to release him next offseason.

Hog's Gone Fishin 09-04-2018 01:33 PM

I think Veach had a seizure and pressed a wrong button. They shouldn't put the cut and extension buttons so close to each other

Mecca 09-04-2018 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 13708244)
It makes absolutely no sense. He's already signed, so he will be able to back up this year. Then we could use a pick to draft someone that'll be just as good and probably better than him and not waste the money on his worthless ass

They're telling you they don't want to have to deal with signing him in the offseason, there's a good chance Morse is out after this year..and with the defensive issues the last thing they want is having to fill 3 OL spots in one year if Morse and Erving both left and LG was still a problem.

This is totally about hedging the bets on "vet versatile backup is worth the money now than overpaying in FA or using a draft pick when we'd rather not"

O.city 09-04-2018 01:34 PM

Andy probably really likes his work ethic.

I think it's pretty obvious Andy is calling most the shots here.

ct 09-04-2018 01:34 PM

chiefs have such a fascination for this guy cause he's versatile, but being diversely shit at 5 different spots isnt a plus.

i get it that it's not a high $ deal as a backup but if he does play and get paid to suck? this is dumb.

O.city 09-04-2018 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13708256)
They're telling you they don't want to have to deal with signing him in the offseason, there's a good chance Morse is out after this year..and with the defensive issues the last thing they want is having to fill 3 OL spots in one year if Morse and Erving both left and LG was still a problem.

This is totally about hedging the bets on "vet versatile backup is worth the money now than overpaying in FA or using a draft pick when we'd rather not"

He's not even playing LG now though.


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