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Tribal Warfare 09-21-2017 10:59 PM

KCTV-5 is at an impasse with DirecTV and U-verse
 
Chiefs fans might want an antenna: KCTV-5 is at an impasse with DirecTV and U-verse

SEPTEMBER 21, 2017 3:29 PM

DirecTV or U-Verse customers who plan on watching the Chiefs take on the Los Angeles Chargers on KCTV-5 on Sunday afternoon might want to have a Plan B.

The local station and the cable TV providers, owned by AT&T, are nearing a deadline on a new contract. If they don’t reach a deal, DirecTV and AT&T’s U-verse will drop KCTV-5 from their offerings on Friday.

That puts the Chiefs game, and everything else people watch on Meredith Corp.-owned KCTV-5, in jeopardy.

The issue is how much the local station wants — and the cable provider is willing to pay — for the right to retransmit programming. KCTV-5 is a CBS affiliate, which means it gets to carry the NFL game. No KCTV-5, no game.


We don’t know the details of the negotiations, but both sides are in spin mode.

“The rates that we are asking for from AT&T and DirecTV are far less than AT&T and DirecTV pay for niche cable networks from New York and Los Angeles that have lower viewership than our stations in this local market,” says a statement posted on KCTV’s website.

The station says it needs to be adequately compensated to produce local programming, such as news. It reminds viewers that AT&T and DirecTV charge customers for local programming on their monthly bill.

DirecTV has this to say on its website:

“Fewer people watch shows on local stations than ever before, but broadcasters continue to demand everyone pay more to get the few shows they do watch,” the statement said.

“When contract disputes arise over station owners’ unnecessary increases in what you should pay for these free over-the-air stations, DirecTV will never remove them from your lineup. Period. Station owners may try to avoid their responsibilities to you, but make no mistake: the station owners are the only ones who can decide to take away your local stations.”

Such standoffs are not unusual. The current one is also affecting Meredith-owned local stations in other cities, such as Atlanta and Nashville.

In 2012, KCTV-5 and Time Warner Cable went to the brink before reaching a decision that avoided the local station and its sister KSMO from going dark on that cable provider. At the same time, an impasse between Time Warner and KMBC-TV caused that station and its sisters to go dark for nearly 10 days.

As current negotiations continue, KCTV-5 reminds viewers they can always watch its programs for free with an antenna.

Hammock Parties 09-21-2017 11:05 PM

Butt****ing morons.

KCrockaholic 09-21-2017 11:48 PM

:facepalm:

I'm pretty happy with Google Fiber so far, but if this happened with them, I'd be furious.

Mephistopheles Janx 09-22-2017 12:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCrockaholic (Post 13095971)
:facepalm:

I'm pretty happy with Google Fiber so far, but if this happened with them, I'd be furious.

It happens to every content provider.

Hughes media is the ****ing devil when it comes to these things. KCTV is owned by Meredith though and I don't know anything about their history in rebroadcast negotiations.

BryanBusby 09-22-2017 01:12 AM

This happens every time. ATT tries to bully its way with how many subscribers they have and they eventually meet in the middle.

007 09-22-2017 01:19 AM

antenna solves the problem. :)

Fire Me Boy! 09-22-2017 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by MephistophelesJanx (Post 13095978)
It happens to every content provider.



Hughes media is the ****ing devil when it comes to these things. KCTV is owned by Meredith though and I don't know anything about their history in rebroadcast negotiations.



AT&T/DirecTV are the worst in negotiations. The station almost always comes down at some point.

HemiEd 09-22-2017 05:24 AM

I have been a Direct TV subscriber for 20 years now and they have gone to shit since ATT acquired them.

Might be watching the game on a 32 inch TV in a guest bedroom I guess since it is the only one hooked up on antenna.

SPchief 09-22-2017 06:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 13096008)
I have been a Direct TV subscriber for 20 years now and they have gone to shit since ATT acquired them.

Might be watching the game on a 32 inch TV in a guest bedroom I guess since it is the only one hooked up on antenna.

Move the antenna? :shrug:

Rasputin 09-22-2017 06:34 AM

**** Direct TV and AT&T.

Rasputin 09-22-2017 06:40 AM

99% guarantee reception my ass. Why the **** is it that 1% just happens during a Royals game 8th inning and cloudy & rainy makes the digital go bad. Motha **** you​ Direct TV.

redfan 09-22-2017 06:54 AM

**** these mother****ers and their ****ing games. So glad I cut off the ****ers.

notorious 09-22-2017 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 13096026)
Move the antenna? :shrug:

My huge Vizio doesn't even have a tuner. LMAO


I don't live up there, though. Good to go.

bevischief 09-22-2017 07:08 AM

Cut the cord. Been happy for over a year.

oldman 09-22-2017 07:08 AM

I wonder how much they do pay each station to carry programming. My DISH charges $10 a month for all local stations, so if you divide that by the 5 companies in KC (I'm sure PBS gets less), it's about $2 per month for each, minus whatever transport/satellite charges. We lost KMBC (ABC) and it's sister station 29 for over a month earlier this year.

Luke Atamadong 09-22-2017 07:14 AM

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Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 13096026)
Move the antenna? :shrug:

Don't be ridiculous.

Molitoth 09-22-2017 07:18 AM

These assholes.

jjchieffan 09-22-2017 07:19 AM

Since I'm not in the KC area, this one doesn't affect me.....this time. But it's not like this hasn't affected me in the past with other stations. We are getting fiber here around the first of the year. At that time, I am cutting the cord for good. I will be thrilled to get rid of DirecTV and their overpriced programming forever.

Fire Me Boy! 09-22-2017 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by oldman (Post 13096055)
I wonder how much they do pay each station to carry programming. My DISH charges $10 a month for all local stations, so if you divide that by the 5 companies in KC (I'm sure PBS gets less), it's about $2 per month for each, minus whatever transport/satellite charges. We lost KMBC (ABC) and it's sister station 29 for over a month earlier this year.



It's usually fractions of pennies per subscriber.

blake5676 09-22-2017 07:39 AM

Out of curiosity, if you have NFL ticket should the game still be accessible if you live in KC? Or is there some sort of stupid blackout rule where local games won't be in that package?

Fire Me Boy! 09-22-2017 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by blake5676 (Post 13096085)
Out of curiosity, if you have NFL ticket should the game still be accessible if you live in KC? Or is there some sort of stupid blackout rule where local games won't be in that package?



Blackout.

WilliamTheIrish 09-22-2017 07:43 AM

2 years w/o paying a dime for TV.

HemiEd 09-22-2017 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SPchief (Post 13096026)
Move the antenna? :shrug:

Antenna is in the attic and hard wired to wall outlets. If I felt like messing with it I could even hook one of the big tvs to the wall outlet by running a coax, but it's a pain in the keister.
No biggie, I can watch the game in the guest bedroom. I heard some people even watch games on their phones or laptops!:D

Fire Me Boy! 09-22-2017 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 13096156)
Antenna is in the attic and hard wired to wall outlets. If I felt like messing with it I could even hook one of the big tvs to the wall outlet by running a coax, but it's a pain in the keister.
No biggie, I can watch the game in the guest bedroom. I heard some people even watch games on their phones or laptops!:D

That's what I'm doing Sunday. Traveling for work, and they're playing the GB game pretty much everywhere except KC and west coast. So I'll be on the ST app.

Stanley Nickels 09-22-2017 08:59 AM

Agree with those who say cut the cable... It's a hard leap to make but once you jump you'll never be happier. We did it 5 years ago and I can't say I miss any of the reality junk, ESPN sports entertainment, or really anything else other than AMC/HBO (and I have relatives with cable logins for that :) )

The Bunk 09-22-2017 09:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stanley Nickels (Post 13096166)
Agree with those who say cut the cable... It's a hard leap to make but once you jump you'll never be happier. We did it 5 years ago and I can't say I miss any of the reality junk, ESPN sports entertainment, or really anything else other than AMC/HBO (and I have relatives with cable logins for that :) )

I'm two weeks in and I can't say I miss it at all. When Google jacked up my monthly fee to $190, I ditched cable all together and went down to 100mb, so now I'm down to $50. I kept Netflix and HBO Now because I think their content is worth their monthly fee. Plenty on both of those to keep me entertained. The only thing I think I'll potentially miss is the Royals, but I can always go old school and listen on the radio.

WilliamTheIrish 09-22-2017 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 13096156)
Antenna is in the attic and hard wired to wall outlets. If I felt like messing with it I could even hook one of the big tvs to the wall outlet by running a coax, but it's a pain in the keister.
No biggie, I can watch the game in the guest bedroom. I heard some people even watch games on their phones or laptops!:D

Ed, purchase a HD antenna that sits right next to your TV. Cost 25/30$. My TV has never looked better.

BlackHelicopters 09-22-2017 06:25 PM

Greedy ass rapers.

Spott 09-22-2017 07:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HemiEd (Post 13096008)
I have been a Direct TV subscriber for 20 years now and they have gone to shit since ATT acquired them.

Might be watching the game on a 32 inch TV in a guest bedroom I guess since it is the only one hooked up on antenna.

That's what AT&T does to every company they buy. They find out that something works and they take a giant shit on it.

Bugeater 09-22-2017 09:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MephistophelesJanx (Post 13095978)
It happens to every content provider.

I don't recall it ever happening in the 20+ years I've been with US West/Qwest/CenturyLink.

wazu 09-22-2017 09:39 PM

So did this get worked out? If not Google Fiber should ramp up for a full blitzkrieg of the KC market.

Dartgod 09-23-2017 06:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13097098)
So did this get worked out? If not Google Fiber should ramp up for a full blitzkrieg of the KC market.

"If they don’t reach a deal, DirecTV and AT&T’s U-verse will drop KCTV-5 from their offerings on Friday."

It's still available for me this morning, so maybe they settled?

Fire Me Boy! 09-23-2017 07:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DartMod (Post 13097251)
"If they don’t reach a deal, DirecTV and AT&T’s U-verse will drop KCTV-5 from their offerings on Friday."

It's still available for me this morning, so maybe they settled?



Likely just an extension to continue negotiations.

A Salt Weapon 09-23-2017 09:26 AM

This has been going on for about a year now up here. My dad has direct TV but doesn't get the local channel. So far I've been able to stream any games at his house for him but it is annoying.

Pablo 09-23-2017 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DartMod (Post 13097251)
"If they don’t reach a deal, DirecTV and AT&T’s U-verse will drop KCTV-5 from their offerings on Friday."

It's still available for me this morning, so maybe they settled?

Yeah, I'm golden as well. I'm expecting the shit to cut out about 11:30 tomorrow morning though for the **** of it.

Fire Me Boy! 09-23-2017 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 13097325)
Yeah, I'm golden as well. I'm expecting the shit to cut out about 11:30 tomorrow morning though for the **** of it.



Unlikely. With the game on CBS and the attached revenue, I'm sure Meredith is doing everything they possibly can for an extension. If it's still on this morning, they got an extension. Probably for a few days. That's pretty standard.

big nasty kcnut 09-23-2017 11:39 AM

God bless the internet. No cable no problem.

Fish 09-23-2017 08:18 PM

The deal is done.

Impasse between KCTV-5, AT&T over

The impasse between a Kansas City television station and AT&T is over and that’s great news for Kansas City Chiefs fans.

Contract negotiations had stalled between KCTV-5 and AT&T and the impasse threatened to drop KCTV-5 from DirecTV and AT&T’s U-verse. The cable TV providers are owned by AT&T.

Friday was the deadline for a new contract. Officials with Meredith Corp.-owned KCTV-5 declined to comment on the agreement, as did a spokesman for AT&T.

Pablo 09-23-2017 10:46 PM

Well, that's just spectacular. I still feel like a dipshit for reneweing my contract w/ DTV at $89/month v. just buying an antenna and working the other shit out.

**** all of these cable companies, guess I'll need to actually give enough of a shit next May to get out.


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