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gordonelloyd 04-19-2024 11:15 AM

What’s our biggest challenge for a 3peat?
 
Maybe this post should wait until after the draft, but I thought I would do it now. I hope it’s not too long.

The Chiefs have improved. We won at our worst last year and definitely this year we will be better, but probably not by a significant amount. Our WR room will definitely be better with the addition of brown, irrespective of what happens with rice. And if Rice and the draft work out, it could be much better. The rest of our offence should be about the same. RB looks solid assuming Pacheco stays relatively healthy. We have adequate back up after we resign McKinnon [I don’t think we’ve done that yet] and from the draft late rounds. The O line should be about the same good enough level and could be slightly better. That’s Assuming Morris improves a bit, we resign Smith, Taylor continues to manage his penalties better, and we get somebody who sits and learns from the draft, rather than being able to trade up for a starter left tackle. If we could get a good left tackle starter from the draft our O line would improve substantially. At TE I think Smith will be a surprisingly good back up for Kelce and we may use double tight ends more.

Our defence should stay elite with the only problem being replacing a Sneed, but we have enough depth to do that, although I expect it will hurt us in games were opponents have two elite receivers like Miami, Cincinnati, Philadelphia, and San Francisco. And Houston might fit in here too.

In terms of teams, we have to worry about the biggest question is who has a QB that can match Mahomes, if both of them have A games.

I think that’s only Buffalo and Cincinnati and maybe Houston.

I think we can discount Buffalo as the loss of Diggs will be insurmountable. Losing Poyer will also hurt. Also, they haven’t done much in free agency. And it doesn’t look like the team is very well run and or coached.

Cincinnati is my biggest fear. I think they are going to get bowers in the draft and that will more than make up for the loss of Boyd. They have a very easy schedule, especially compared to the other teams in their division, and that will somewhat offset the disadvantages of playing in their very tough division compared to ours. I know there are many Orlando Brown haters on this board, but I think he improved their O line last year, and adding Trent Brown this year should be another improvement. The big question is if they can keep Burrows healthy. If so, they have the offence and an improved defence [more experience at DB and signing stone, and Bell] that can challenge Kansas City TO THE POINT WHERE THE GAMES ARE A TOSSUP. AND I REALLY THINK LOSING SNEED WILL HURT US HERE.

Although Jackson, Purdy , and Hurst are not in the same elite tier QB class, those teams are also of some concern, although not really very much in my view except for San Francisco.

I think Philadelphia is dysfunctional and will continue to implode. I doubt that Adding Henry is going to improve Baltimore very much and I think Jackson now has a reliable record of not winning the big games.

San Francisco will probably meet us again in the Super Bowl in their last opportunity before they lose OT Williams to retirement and some of their other elite players to salary cap once they start paying Purdy. It looks like they will pretty much be the same team as last year, and if they hadn’t lost Greenlaw to that fluke injury they might well have beaten us. It should be an It should be another down to the wire Super Bowl. Again, our loss of Sneed could be important in this game given their multiple elite receivers.

The only other team to be concerned about is Houston if they and Stroud continue their meteoric rise. But I think that’s unlikely and also they won’t be facing a last place schedule this time around. Adding Diggs will be huge. If they had been able to sign Barkley instead of Mixon I would be more worried.

Anyway, that’s my two early view of the season ahead that I think will end up with a 3 peat.

MVChiefFan 04-19-2024 11:16 AM

We clearly have to continue being the luckiest team that’s ever walked the face of the earth.

smithandrew051 04-19-2024 11:18 AM

Traffic laws

ChiefsCountry 04-19-2024 11:21 AM

Mahomes health

alpha_omega 04-19-2024 11:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 17486625)
Mahomes health

This is the correct response.

I'm considerably less worried about losing Sneed than the OP is.

gordonelloyd 04-19-2024 11:39 AM

I definitely agree thatMahomes health is the most important consideration. Without him we have zero chance for a 3peat.

But fortunately, unlike Burrows, mahomes has not shown a propensity to get injured. He is very nimble in the pocket, incredibly’s football smart about evading the rush, amazingly resilient, as in the Super Bowl, win over Philadelphia, and generally has had a good enough OL. Even in the Super Bowl loss to Tampa when we had a third string 0 L, and he was chased all over the field, he escaped injury.

So, although it is clearly essential for Mahomes to stay healthy for us to win, I don’t put that as my biggest challenge as I assume he will stay healthy. Hope I’m right on that.

Rainbarrel 04-19-2024 11:57 AM

As long as other teams go all in & enjoy the smell of their regular season farts. Don't know

SAGA45 04-19-2024 11:58 AM

Assuming the team stays relatively healthy, there is no challenge to the 3-peat.

MatriculatingHank 04-19-2024 11:59 AM

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PHOG 04-19-2024 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAGA45 (Post 17486670)
Assuming the team stays relatively healthy, there is no challenge to the 3-peat.

This, remaining relatively healthy will be the biggest challenge.

ThrobProng 04-19-2024 12:02 PM

NFL scriptwriters deciding that's it's time for a new champion.

Chris Meck 04-19-2024 12:12 PM

Health. Especially Mahomes.

A lengthy Rice suspension would make it difficult as well.

Chief Pagan 04-19-2024 12:13 PM

The rest of our offence should be about the same. RB looks solid assuming Pacheco stays relatively healthy. We have adequate back up after we resign McKinnon [I don’t think we’ve done that yet] and from the draft late rounds. The O line should be about the same good enough level and could be slightly better. That’s Assuming Morris improves a bit, we resign Smith

Assuming McKinnon can continue to stay healthy is a big assumption.

I don't follow things that closely. Is there any reason to think that Smith is coming back? I would presume he is not looking for a team friendly one or two year deal.

As long as Jones is a force, the D should be in pretty good shape.

BlackHelicopters 04-19-2024 12:14 PM

Anal tongue darts

wazu 04-19-2024 12:18 PM

Biggest challenge would be if the NFL completely disbanded for some reason and no more Super Bowls were ever played. Outside of that a threepeat is pretty much a given.

Chief Pagan 04-19-2024 12:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17486689)
Health. Especially Mahomes.

A lengthy Rice suspension would make it difficult as well.

Yes, injuries are always a wild card.

I know you can't replace a motivated, healthy Chris Jones with two good players. But there is a tradeoff with having superstars and JAGs versus a bunch of really good players. If a really good player has one of those football injuries happen, it's not as big of hit to your season.

TLO 04-19-2024 12:23 PM

Luck

Wisconsin_Chief 04-19-2024 12:23 PM

In all seriousness, the biggest challenge in front of them is simply the law of averages. The odds of winning 3 Super Bowls in a row are absurdly low. It takes an unbelievable combination of health, talent, execution, comradery, and focus to win one goddamn Super Bowl. Then to win another when we were, for all intents and purposes, rebuilding was just nonsense. So now to line up for 3 in a row? Man, it's a lot.

However, this organization is operating on a different level than every other team in the NFL, and that's not an exaggeration. Houston has the look of a young KC team from Mahomes' early years and he and Ryans look like they could be the next upcoming QB/HC force in the AFC, but they haven't proven that yet. Bills are toast, Bengals aren't shit, Ravens have a RB at QB, and so on.

It's ours for the taking because we're just a better run organization from top to bottom than any team in football, and we are currently rolling with 5 surefire future HOFers which is a once in a lifetime situation. One of them is the best HC in football who is an offensive genius, one is the best DC in football, so that right there adds up to something no other team can come close to matching. Then you add in Mahomes, Kelce and Jones? Along with all these young studs? Are you kidding?

The only organization even close to us is SF, and we own them. We own the NFL, quite frankly. However, we don't own the universe, which sometimes can be a bitch. If everything stays in order, it's ours. If anyone can do it, it's these guys.

chiefzilla1501 04-19-2024 12:46 PM

I still hold firm on the idea that our offense has a higher ceiling than we even realize despite our back to back run. Hollywood is a huge upgrade simply because he gives us something we’ve needed. I don’t think we’re even close to done yet adding offense weapons.

Because that offense paired with a defense that may take a step back, but still be very good, we’ll be a nightmare matchup.

For me the only thing in the way is just meeting the wrong team on the wrong day. Like when the greatest show on turf got stuffed by the patriots without realizing they were facing a future dynasty.

RedinTexas 04-19-2024 12:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17486711)
In all seriousness, the biggest challenge in front of them is simply the law of averages. The odds of winning 3 Super Bowls in a row are absurdly low. It takes an unbelievable combination of health, talent, execution, comradery, and focus to win one goddamn Super Bowl. Then to win another when we were, for all intents and purposes, rebuilding was just nonsense. So now to line up for 3 in a row? Man, it's a lot.

However, this organization is operating on a different level than every other team in the NFL, and that's not an exaggeration. Houston has the look of a young KC team from Mahomes' early years and he and Ryans look like they could be the next upcoming QB/HC force in the AFC, but they haven't proven that yet. Bills are toast, Bengals aren't shit, Ravens have a RB at QB, and so on.

It's ours for the taking because we're just a better run organization from top to bottom than any team in football, and we are currently rolling with 5 surefire future HOFers which is a once in a lifetime situation. One of them is the best HC in football who is an offensive genius, one is the best DC in football, so that right there adds up to something no other team can come close to matching. Then you add in Mahomes, Kelce and Jones? Along with all these young studs? Are you kidding?

The only organization even close to us is SF, and we own them. We own the NFL, quite frankly. However, we don't own the universe, which sometimes can be a bitch. If everything stays in order, it's ours. If anyone can do it, it's these guys.

Do they put GMs in the HOF? Because if they do, we have a HOF GM.

chiefzilla1501 04-19-2024 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wisconsin_Chief (Post 17486711)
In all seriousness, the biggest challenge in front of them is simply the law of averages. The odds of winning 3 Super Bowls in a row are absurdly low. It takes an unbelievable combination of health, talent, execution, comradery, and focus to win one goddamn Super Bowl. Then to win another when we were, for all intents and purposes, rebuilding was just nonsense. So now to line up for 3 in a row? Man, it's a lot.

However, this organization is operating on a different level than every other team in the NFL, and that's not an exaggeration. Houston has the look of a young KC team from Mahomes' early years and he and Ryans look like they could be the next upcoming QB/HC force in the AFC, but they haven't proven that yet. Bills are toast, Bengals aren't shit, Ravens have a RB at QB, and so on.

It's ours for the taking because we're just a better run organization from top to bottom than any team in football, and we are currently rolling with 5 surefire future HOFers which is a once in a lifetime situation. One of them is the best HC in football who is an offensive genius, one is the best DC in football, so that right there adds up to something no other team can come close to matching. Then you add in Mahomes, Kelce and Jones? Along with all these young studs? Are you kidding?

The only organization even close to us is SF, and we own them. We own the NFL, quite frankly. However, we don't own the universe, which sometimes can be a bitch. If everything stays in order, it's ours. If anyone can do it, it's these guys.

The crazy thing is we went on these runs at a time where the nfl had an unprecedented number of top 1-2 tier QBs playing for “free” on rookie contracts. This year is the beginning of the reckoning that teams will need to win with a salary cap

Otter 04-19-2024 01:01 PM

Quote:

What’s our biggest challenge for a 3peat?

I think what's between the teams WRs ears is a legitimate answer.

Hammock Parties 04-19-2024 01:02 PM

Injury.

We need Kelce, Jones and Mahomes all 100% in the postseason.

If one of the three goes down, chances go down dramatically.

ThaVirus 04-19-2024 01:05 PM

Health, luck, and consistency/burnout issues.

-King- 04-19-2024 01:10 PM

Everybody on the team contracting aids at the same time. We can handle 25% maybe even 50% but more than 75% of the team and I doubt we can threepeat

Dunerdr 04-19-2024 01:12 PM

Posters with neg rep on CP are our biggest threat.

ThaVirus 04-19-2024 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17486785)
Everybody on the team contracting aids at the same time. We can handle 25% maybe even 50% but more than 75% of the team and I doubt we can threepeat

Please. AIDS doesn’t even kill people with the retroviral cocktails they’ve got these days.

You’re gonna have to step up your infectious disease game. I’m thinking Ebola. That would definitely **** us right up.

Direckshun 04-19-2024 01:18 PM

I think the Chiefs biggest challenge is going to be applying pressure on opposing QBs.

Jones and Karlaftis are the only proven passrushers. Danna is serviceable.

Omenihu is probably our second best passrusher but at this time, we don't know how he's going to look when he returns.

That being said, I think Spags/Cullen will figure it out.

RunKC 04-19-2024 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17486771)
Injury.

We need Kelce, Jones and Mahomes all 100% in the postseason.

If one of the three goes down, chances go down dramatically.

Trent McDuffie is pretty close to being on this list

carcosa 04-19-2024 01:22 PM

KC Chiefs will go 20-0 imho

Wisconsin_Chief 04-19-2024 01:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17486803)
Trent McDuffie is pretty close to being on this list

With Sneed gone, I’d say he should definitely be included. Can’t even imagine the plans they have for that kid now.

ThaVirus 04-19-2024 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 17486799)
I think the Chiefs biggest challenge is going to be applying pressure on opposing QBs.

Jones and Karlaftis are the only proven passrushers. Danna is serviceable.

Omenihu is probably our second best passrusher but at this time, we don't know how he's going to look when he returns.

That being said, I think Spags/Cullen will figure it out.

This is a strange worry. We were #2 in sacks in both 2022 and 2023. We didn’t really lose anyone except Omenihu, who will likely be back by midseason. He wasn’t even on the squad in 2022 when we had 55 sacks anyway.

Why would this worry you? Are you expecting a huge regression from someone in particular?

Renegade 04-19-2024 01:28 PM

I am going to say Game Day Threads. I can't tell if we are winning or losing in those threads.

Wisconsin_Chief 04-19-2024 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renegade (Post 17486817)
I am going to say Game Day Threads. I can't tell if we are winning or losing in those threads.

That’s the fun! :)

scho63 04-19-2024 01:36 PM

Ourselves

Direckshun 04-19-2024 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17486816)
This is a strange worry. We were #2 in sacks in both 2022 and 2023. We didn’t really lose anyone except Omenihu, who will likely be back by midseason. He wasn’t even on the squad in 2022 when we had 55 sacks anyway.

Why would this worry you? Are you expecting a huge regression from someone in particular?

I'm not worried. I just think that's the biggest challenge for the team.

I also think they'll meet the challenge.

Ming the Merciless 04-19-2024 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17486803)
Trent McDuffie is pretty close to being on this list


especially since losing sneed. yes.

Ming the Merciless 04-19-2024 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Renegade (Post 17486817)
I am going to say Game Day Threads. I can't tell if we are winning or losing in those threads.


you gotta get in and help destroy the traitors and cowards


spread the good mojo and take a shit on the bad


it works

ping2000 04-19-2024 02:18 PM

Everything hinges on GDT. Everything.

MarkDavis'Haircut 04-19-2024 02:19 PM

The craziness associated with a one and done playoff.

PHOG 04-19-2024 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ping2000 (Post 17486904)
Everything hinges on GDT. Everything.

Being started no earlier or later than 12:00 A.M.

wazu 04-19-2024 03:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ping2000 (Post 17486904)
Everything hinges on GDT. Everything.

It's probably why we've won as much as we have. We've got it down to a science and the unyielding enforcement by the community is like something out of 1984.

Valiant 04-19-2024 03:57 PM

Mahomes.
Oc play calling
D line play

Bump 04-19-2024 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17486803)
Trent McDuffie is pretty close to being on this list

Yup, he's probably going to have to get paid before his rookie contract is up too because he is just that good.

Tribal Warfare 04-19-2024 04:01 PM

The war of attrition of staying relatively healthy and available

Chief Pagan 04-19-2024 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17486816)
This is a strange worry. We were #2 in sacks in both 2022 and 2023. We didn’t really lose anyone except Omenihu, who will likely be back by midseason. He wasn’t even on the squad in 2022 when we had 55 sacks anyway.

Why would this worry you? Are you expecting a huge regression from someone in particular?

Regular season or playoffs?

KC could get by regular season. But margins tend to be tighter in the post season.

Demonpenz 04-19-2024 06:18 PM

injuries is about the only thing

ThaVirus 04-19-2024 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Pagan (Post 17487130)
Regular season or playoffs?

KC could get by regular season. But margins tend to be tighter in the post season.

Idk. I was asking in general. We didn’t have a problem rushing the passer in the regular or post season for 2022 or 2023.

Spags has shown that he’s really good at scheming free rushers using LBs, CBs and safeties too.

Coochie liquor 04-19-2024 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MarkDavis'Haircut (Post 17486905)
The craziness associated with a one and done playoff.

Patrick doesn’t one and done. EVER! Oh wait are you talking about AP’s one full season coaching and done??

gordonelloyd 04-19-2024 08:48 PM

Everybody can obviously address my original post as they see fit, but I was really looking for a discussion on what teams we need to be most concerned about. Some have said none and we are going to go easily undefeated. I think that would be great but I’m not sure it’s realistic. But if you feel that way, I hope you’re right.

But if anybody is worried about specific teams, I’d like to hear about that.


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