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BigRedChief 06-10-2019 11:27 PM

Tarantino making the Star Trek movie is still “a big possibility,”
 
Quentin Tarantino is starting to do press for his upcoming film Once Upon A Time In Hollywood. Back in April Tarantino was quoted as saying making the movie is still “a big possibility,” and thanks to the press junket for the film, there’s been a bit more talk of his Trek movie.

While chatting with Empire magazine (the latest issue is available now to subscribers, and will be on newsstands later in the week), he was asked about the potential Star Trek movie he had pitched to Bad Robot in 2017. As previously reported, last year Tarantino’s initial idea was fleshed out into a draft of a script by screenwriter Mark L. Smith. And that’s where it sat, waiting for more action. Tarantino says the next step is for him to give notes on it:

There’s a script that exists for it now, I need to weigh in on it, but haven’t been able to do that yet.

Also not a surprise, and something that’s been brought up before, is that Tarantino would want to make the movie R-rated. The director confirmed this to Empire:

Oh yeah! It’s an R-rated move. If I do it, it’ll be R-rated.

Paramount keen on working with Tarantino

Tarantino’s film Upon a Time in Hollywood will be released next month, on July 26th. The Oscar-winning writer/director’s recent comments sound like he is interested in taking the next steps to develop his Star Trek movie later in the year. And based on comments from Paramount motion-picture group president Wyck Godfrey in January, the studio is also keen on Tarantino Trek.

Little is known about Tarantino’s Star Trek concept. Reports differ on what characters it would involve, although some of the cast of the Kelvin films have indicated they believe they would be involved, including Karl Urban who has called the concept “bananas.” Cast members from Star Trek’s prime timeline have also expressed an interest in being involved, including William Shatner, Patrick Stewart, and Jonathan Frakes.

More info here:
https://trekmovie.com/2019/06/10/que...tar-trek-film/

EPodolak 06-11-2019 10:19 PM

Don't see that happening, although QT is requisite nerdy.

sully1983 06-12-2019 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by EPodolak (Post 14304933)
Don't see that happening, although QT is requisite nerdy.

I don't seeing it happening either . But it'd certainly be cool as hell to see Tarantino tackle the sci fi genre and if any movie franchise needs an adrenaline shot ....its ****ing Star Trek .

BigRichard 06-12-2019 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sully1983 (Post 14304987)
I don't seeing it happening either . But it'd certainly be cool as hell to see Tarantino tackle the sci fi genre and if any movie franchise needs an adrenaline shot ....its ****ing Star Trek .

He could do Star Wars and have Finn crying from being called the N word time after time.

KC_Lee 06-12-2019 09:51 AM

KLINGON MOT******R!!! DO YOU SPEAK IT!!!

loochy 06-12-2019 11:25 AM

So we're going to see people beheaded with bat'leths and limbs severed with phasers and whatnot?

BigRedChief 06-12-2019 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by loochy (Post 14305453)
So we're going to see people beheaded with bat'leths and limbs severed with phasers and whatnot?

he is a big fan of Captain Kirk from his childhood. Supposedly his script is about the war that caused the bad blood between Kirk and the Kiligons. So of course there would be plenty of violence.

Deberg_1990 06-12-2019 04:31 PM

Not sure there’s a legitimate reason it has to be R rated?

Bowser 06-13-2019 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14305879)
Not sure there’s a legitimate reason it has to be R rated?

Well, nobody has ever made an R rated version of Trek before, so he'd have that going for him.

I'd watch it just to see Kirk scream out to BLOW THOSE KLINGON MOTHER****ERS STRAIGHT BACK TO KLINGON HELL and then enjoy the fallout of the purists hand wringing because "that's not what Trek is about". Lol

vailpass 06-13-2019 03:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14305879)
Not sure there’s a legitimate reason it has to be R rated?

Finally get a look at some of that green ass the good captain's been slaying two at a time.

listopencil 06-23-2019 11:36 AM

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WhiteWhale 06-28-2019 02:47 PM

This strikes me as a match made in hell.

WhiteWhale 06-28-2019 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14305879)
Not sure there’s a legitimate reason it has to be R rated?

Because it's Tarantino and he's going to make sure there's at least 50 F-bombs and two dozen racial slurs.

I'm not saying that's BAD in general, but yeah. I don't want to see that in Star Trek.

sully1983 06-29-2019 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 14305879)
Not sure there’s a legitimate reason it has to be R rated?

Probably to make the action / fight sequences much more gritty & bloody . Not gonna lie , it would be cool to see Cast Kirk curb stomping some Klingon's head in lol. Plus, after the disastrous Beyond film , I would think a hard R rating would be a refreshing turn for this franchise.

Deberg_1990 06-29-2019 10:37 AM

Never seen the new series Discovery, but I guess some episodes had a few F bombs in them?

“He’s ****ing dead Jim”

“One ****ing minute Admiral”

“I’m giving her all she’s ****ing got Captain!”

Bowser 06-29-2019 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by sully1983 (Post 14327984)
Probably to make the action / fight sequences much more gritty & bloody . Not gonna lie , it would be cool to see Cast Kirk curb stomping some Klingon's head in lol. Plus, after the disastrous Beyond film , I would think a hard R rating would be a refreshing turn for this franchise.

Knowing Tarantino, he'd have Uhura getting a train ran on her by a bunch of Andorians as Spock watches on helplessly tied up in chains in the middle of Ponn Farr. Would set up the revenge story QT loves so much, at any rate.

Frazod 06-29-2019 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by sully1983 (Post 14327984)
Probably to make the action / fight sequences much more gritty & bloody . Not gonna lie , it would be cool to see Cast Kirk curb stomping some Klingon's head in lol. Plus, after the disastrous Beyond film , I would think a hard R rating would be a refreshing turn for this franchise.

Yeah, that would definitely work for me. I think anything he'd do would definitely have a Deep Space Nine vibe to it.

Rausch 07-02-2019 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14328112)
Yeah, that would definitely work for me. I think anything he'd do would definitely have a Deep Space Nine vibe to it.

Has Star Trek ever done a "space marines" type of story? I'm sure the federation must have some type of military to deal with disputes. They've talked about wars as things that have happened in the past...

Frazod 07-02-2019 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 14331797)
Has Star Trek ever done a "space marines" type of story? I'm sure the federation must have some type of military to deal with disputes. They've talked about wars as things that have happened in the past...

The Dominion War storyline in DS9 had several fighting grunt-type episodes, but never a dedicated series.

Frazod 07-18-2019 01:55 PM

The article is too much of a pain in the ass to cut and paste, but here's a link, and I had to post this picture!

https://movieweb.com/star-trek-taran...XYpd-fYWwqF1JI

https://cdn3.movieweb.com/i/article/...ster-Movie.jpg

Bowser 07-18-2019 10:39 PM

Get me my bat'leth......

007 07-18-2019 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 14352992)
The article is too much of a pain in the ass to cut and paste, but here's a link, and I had to post this picture!

https://movieweb.com/star-trek-taran...XYpd-fYWwqF1JI

https://cdn3.movieweb.com/i/article/...ster-Movie.jpg

This movie better ****ing get made.

BigRedChief 07-19-2019 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 007 (Post 14353726)
This movie better ****ing get made.

It would be a worthy way for Tarantino’s film career to come to a close.

BigRedChief 08-09-2019 02:59 PM

At the end of 2017, some Quentin Tarantino news piqued the interest of movie lovers. The filmmaker was not only making a Los Angeles period piece centered around the 1969 Manson family murders (now known to be this summer’s box-office hit “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood”), but he was also developing an R-rated “Star Trek” movie.

J.J. Abrams, who directed two films in the rebooted franchise ― 2009′s “Star Trek” and 2013′s “Star Trek Into Darkness” ― reportedly signed on to produce the Tarantino project, which Paramount Pictures rallied behind. They met with a few writers to take on his story, and landed on “The Revenant” scribe Mark L. Smith. But, nearly two years later, the only updated information we’ve been given is it’ll be like “‘Pulp Fiction’ in space.”

So, when speaking with Karl Urban about his new Amazon series “The Boys,” HuffPost asked the actor ― who plays Leonard “Bones” McCoy in Abrams’ adaptations ― if he had heard of anything moving forward at Paramount.

“This is a project that I have no information about, really,” he said. “I haven’t read a script for it, but I understand the basic concept of it.”


Previously, Urban called the idea “bananas” and was excited about the possibility of appearing in a Tarantino movie, as the director reportedly wants to use the actors from the reboot.


Karl Urban Says Studio Would Be 'Insane' Not To Make Quentin Tarantino's 'Star Trek' Movie

The actor, who plays Leonard "Bones" McCoy in the J.J. Abrams films, would "relish the opportunity to be a part of it."

“I think Quentin Tarantino doing that film would be phenomenal,” Urban told HuffPost. “He is definitely one of the most exciting filmmakers that’s currently working and if he has an interest in making a ‘Star Trek’ film, I think the studio would be insane not to let him do that.”

If Tarantino does helm “Star Trek,” it may mark his directorial end. He recently told CinemaBlend that no matter what happens, his 10th film would be his last.

“I guess I do have a loophole, [if] the idea was to throw a loophole into it. Which would be [to go], ‘Uhhh, I guess “Star Trek” doesn’t count. I can do “Star Trek” … but naturally I would end on an original.’ But the idea of doing 10 isn’t to come up with a loophole,” he said. “I actually think, if I was going to do ‘Star Trek,’ I should commit to it. It’s my last movie. There should be nothing left-handed about it. I don’t know if I’m going to do that, but that might happen.”

Bowser 08-09-2019 03:34 PM

Seriously, could you imagine the speeches Spock would give with a Tarantino script? The movie would be 3.5 hours long at least. He might have to Kill Bill the movie into parts 1 and 2 just based on space lingo alone.

BigRedChief 08-09-2019 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 14387114)
Seriously, could you imagine the speeches Spock would give with a Tarantino script? The movie would be 3.5 hours long at least. He might have to Kill Bill the movie into parts 1 and 2 just based on space lingo alone.

I like the "loophole" out for him to do an 11th movie since Star Trek wouldn't be an original movie. But, we can all agree that a Tarantino Star Trek movie would not be like anything "Star Trek" we have seen before.

BigRedChief 08-08-2020 12:53 AM

This idea ain’t dead yet. Tarantino, 1930’s gangsters and Star Trek? Sign me up

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A second “Star Trek” film is the much-buzzed-about idea from Quentin Tarantino. The “Pulp Fiction” and “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood” director worked with “The Revenant” scribe Mark L. Smith to draft an R-rated “Star Trek” script based on his idea. Deadline’s report reveals Tarantino’s movie “is based on an episode of the classic ‘Star Trek’ series that takes place largely earthbound in a 1930s gangster setting.”

The episode in question is most likely “A Piece of the Action,” the 17th episode of the second season of “Star Trek: The Original Series.” The installment aired January 12, 1968 and found the Enterprise crew visiting a planet with an Earth-like 1920s gangster culture. That Tarantino’s “Star Trek” idea was a gangster movie isn’t too surprising, as the filmmaker revealed in an interview with Deadline in July 2019 that his plan for “Trek” was to bring in some “Pulp Fiction” elements.

sully1983 08-08-2020 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15105097)
This idea ain’t dead yet. Tarantino, 1930’s gangsters and Star Trek? Sign me up

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A second “Star Trek” film is the much-buzzed-about idea from Quentin Tarantino. The “Pulp Fiction” and “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood” director worked with “The Revenant” scribe Mark L. Smith to draft an R-rated “Star Trek” script based on his idea. Deadline’s report reveals Tarantino’s movie “is based on an episode of the classic ‘Star Trek’ series that takes place largely earthbound in a 1930s gangster setting.”

The episode in question is most likely “A Piece of the Action,” the 17th episode of the second season of “Star Trek: The Original Series.” The installment aired January 12, 1968 and found the Enterprise crew visiting a planet with an Earth-like 1920s gangster culture. That Tarantino’s “Star Trek” idea was a gangster movie isn’t too surprising, as the filmmaker revealed in an interview with Deadline in July 2019 that his plan for “Trek” was to bring in some “Pulp Fiction” elements.

man that sounds ****ing awesome and Tarantino would absolutely crush it if directed it. Sigh, I really want him to direct a Star Trek film so badly. He has raved about Chris Pine as Kirk so who knows...

Mephistopheles Janx 08-08-2020 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15105097)
This idea ain’t dead yet. Tarantino, 1930’s gangsters and Star Trek? Sign me up

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A second “Star Trek” film is the much-buzzed-about idea from Quentin Tarantino. The “Pulp Fiction” and “Once Upon a Time in Hollywood” director worked with “The Revenant” scribe Mark L. Smith to draft an R-rated “Star Trek” script based on his idea. Deadline’s report reveals Tarantino’s movie “is based on an episode of the classic ‘Star Trek’ series that takes place largely earthbound in a 1930s gangster setting.”

The episode in question is most likely “A Piece of the Action,” the 17th episode of the second season of “Star Trek: The Original Series.” The installment aired January 12, 1968 and found the Enterprise crew visiting a planet with an Earth-like 1920s gangster culture. That Tarantino’s “Star Trek” idea was a gangster movie isn’t too surprising, as the filmmaker revealed in an interview with Deadline in July 2019 that his plan for “Trek” was to bring in some “Pulp Fiction” elements.

I'm not a huge Tarantino fan. I do, though, understand his appeal. I was willing to give him a shot at this being that I love Trek and I get the guy is super talented.

That said, a 30's gangster Star Trek sounds like 12 pounds of dogshit in a 5lb bag.

Bowser 08-08-2020 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 15105254)
I'm not a huge Tarantino fan. I do, though, understand his appeal. I was willing to give him a shot at this being that I love Trek and I get the guy is super talented.

That said, a 30's gangster Star Trek sounds like 12 pounds of dogshit in a 5lb bag.

Seconded. I read that and immediately thought of the video of Kevin Smith talking about that doomed Superman movie with Nic Cage.

Frazod 08-08-2020 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 15105254)
I'm not a huge Tarantino fan. I do, though, understand his appeal. I was willing to give him a shot at this being that I love Trek and I get the guy is super talented.

That said, a 30's gangster Star Trek sounds like 12 pounds of dogshit in a 5lb bag.

Yeah, it sounds pretty lame.

There are really only a handful of TOS episodes that have stood the test of time. Piece of the Action ain't one of them.

Deberg_1990 08-08-2020 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15105325)
Yeah, it sounds pretty lame.

There are really only a handful of TOS episodes that have stood the test of time. Piece of the Action ain't one of them.

The 3rd season has some horrendous episodes.

https://youtu.be/-pNQYHvhnms

sully1983 08-08-2020 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Mephistopheles Janx (Post 15105254)
I'm not a huge Tarantino fan. I do, though, understand his appeal. I was willing to give him a shot at this being that I love Trek and I get the guy is super talented.

That said, a 30's gangster Star Trek sounds like 12 pounds of dogshit in a 5lb bag.

lol man I don't know I think it would have some potential. Picture a bunch of gangsters shooting their tommy guns at Kirk & Spock and then they blast them with their phasers (killing em all). lol could actually be badass if done right

Ideally I really just want Tarantino to tackle the sci fi genre whether it be a Star Trek film or something else.

DaneMcCloud 08-08-2020 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 15105097)
This idea ain’t dead yet. Tarantino, 1930’s gangsters and Star Trek? Sign me up

From my understanding, Emma Watts, the new Paramount Pictures Group president "paused" all Star Trek movie development, including Noah Hawley's take, which would have re-united Chris Pine and Chris Hemsworth.

There's so much going on over there with the re-merging of CBS & Viacom, along with their new streaming service plan that it will likely be a while before anything concrete happens with the film side of Trek.

DaneMcCloud 08-08-2020 12:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 15105325)
Yeah, it sounds pretty lame.

There are really only a handful of TOS episodes that have stood the test of time. Piece of the Action ain't one of them.

Yeah, I can't imagine Chris Pine trying to pull off a 20's gangster character with dialog written by Tarantino.

Plus, that episode? LMAO

I remember seeing it about the same time as the primetime show, Alice, which was really popular in the mid-70's and thinking "Hey, isn't that the cook on Alice? Mel?".

IMO, the best idea for a tying in a new Star Trek film with the TOS would be centered around Gary Seven.

Frazod 08-08-2020 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15105399)
Yeah, I can't imagine Chris Pine trying to pull off a 20's gangster character with dialog written by Tarantino.

Plus, that episode? LMAO

I remember seeing it about the same time as the primetime show, Alice, which was really popular in the mid-70's and thinking "Hey, isn't that the cook on Alice? Mel?".

IMO, the best idea for a tying in a new Star Trek film with the TOS would be centered around Gary Seven.

At this point, the only Star Trek I'm looking forward to is the new Pike-centered series. And I pray they don't **** it up.

Jamie 08-08-2020 01:26 PM

The more I think about this the more I like it. Because it's not time travel, it's an alien culture that was contaminated by Earth culture. It's basically a way to drop the Star Trek characters into the middle of a Tarantino movie and have it make sense. It'd be more of a Star Trek IV.

DaneMcCloud 08-08-2020 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 15105470)
The more I think about this the more I like it. Because it's not time travel, it's an alien culture that was contaminated by Earth culture. It's basically a way to drop the Star Trek characters into the middle of a Tarantino movie and have it make sense. It'd be more of a Star Trek IV.

I'm having a difficult time figuring out why a movie studio would drop in excess of $150 million dollars on a feature film based on a popular TV series with a "Fish Out of Water" story.

Jamie 08-08-2020 02:04 PM

Okay, but on the flip side, I don't know why that idea would require a $150 million budget. You could probably do it for half that.

DaneMcCloud 08-08-2020 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 15105508)
Okay, but on the flip side, I don't know why that idea would require a $150 million budget. You could probably do it for half that.

Not with marketing or Chris Pine's rate. Karl Urban's rate is higher than 2009 or 2016 as well.

Season One of The Mandalorian cost north of $125 million and that was TV. The second season is well over $150 million.

Jamie 08-08-2020 07:16 PM

I mean, okay. The Mandalorian was an effects-heavy TV show that consisted of six-ish hours of content, so it's a very apples-to-oranges comparison.

A more apt comparison would be a period movie with an expensive cast. Most convenient example, Once Upon A Time In Hollywood had a $90 million budget. DiCaprio and Pitt took pay cuts (to $10 million), but that's still more than they'd have to pay Chris Pine.

DaneMcCloud 08-08-2020 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 15105915)
I mean, okay. The Mandalorian was an effects-heavy TV show that consisted of six-ish hours of content, so it's a very apples-to-oranges comparison.

Wrong.

You clearly know nothing about the difference between Feature Film set and TV sets. And The Mandalorian didn't have to do much marketing because Star Wars has a massive built in audience.

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Originally Posted by Jamie (Post 15105915)
A more apt comparison would be a period movie with an expensive cast. Most convenient example, Once Upon A Time In Hollywood had a $90 million budget. DiCaprio and Pitt took pay cuts (to $10 million), but that's still more than they'd have to pay Chris Pine.

LMAO

Good god, no.

DiCaprio and Pitt took less up front because they received a percentage of the film's gross on the back end, something that none of the agents of the stars of a Star Trek film, especially this particular Star Trek film, would agree to take.

Star Trek Beyond cost $185 million before marketing, so there's no way they're making a Star Trek film in 2021 for less than $150 million. Hell, CBS is spending upwards of $12 million per episode of Discovery!

Your Hollywood takes are just completely awful.

Deberg_1990 08-08-2020 07:47 PM

I Thought Tarantino killed this or Paramount did?

DaneMcCloud 08-08-2020 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990 (Post 15105937)
I Thought Tarantino killed this or Paramount did?

Viacom/CBS has put everything on hold (which essentially means, cancelled) because they just hired a new person to run their Paramount Pictures division.

It's been standard practice for decades that when a president of a film studio or record company is hired, Job One is cut every unnecessary and locked deal and start from scratch. I have scores of friends that had record deals in the 80's and 90's whose albums were in the can and generally cost more than $1 million to make that were immediately tossed in the trash when a new president took over the reigns.

Paramount Pictures and Emma Watts just did the same exact thing this week: They started cutting films from their Annual Budget and Planning..

No one wants to take on their predecessor's projects because the new person didn't Greenlight them and doesn't want their legacy to be tainted or tarnished by someone else's decisions.

Jamie 08-08-2020 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 15105934)
Wrong.
You clearly know nothing about the difference between Feature Film set and TV sets. And The Mandalorian didn't have to do much marketing because Star Wars has a massive built in audience.

You understand that telling me I don't know anything isn't actually making a point. What possible reason would a TV show be a better comparable for a movie, than another movie? What the **** are you trying to say?

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DiCaprio and Pitt took less up front because they received a percentage of the film's gross on the back end, something that none of the agents of the stars of a Star Trek film, especially this particular Star Trek film, would agree to take.
Not my point, does not refute anything I was saying. Once Upon A Time In Hollywood dedicated $20 million from the budget to Pitt and DiCaprio, Chris Pine won't be that expensive in straight dollars. Points on the back end are irrelevant.

When they made the deal for Star Trek Beyond Pine signed on to do a 4th movie for $6 million. When he walked away in 2018 it was because Paramount was trying to cut his pay down from that, he wasn't asking for more. There's no reason to think Chris Pine will cost them more than $6 million.

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Star Trek Beyond cost $185 million before marketing, so there's no way they're making a Star Trek film in 2021 for less than $150 million.
Why? If it's not a VFX cluster**** then what do they need to spend the money on?

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Hell, CBS is spending upwards of $12 million per episode of Discovery!
According to Variety season 1 was $8.5 million per episode, after budget overruns. And it was a VFX spectacle show. Huge space battles, all kinds of sets, dozens of extras in full-face Klingon makeup and wardrobe.

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Your Hollywood takes are just completely awful.
Insightful as always.


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