Gay for Goff crew, let's do this
 

Look at him neatly fit that ball in betwixt three defenders. My pantaloons are aflustered!

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Escapes pocket, throws TD. Nice.

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Stand in the pocket instead of abandoning it, what a concept.

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LMAO

Good stuff. IN for the hi-jinx!

But, I'm a Connor Cook man this year. Convince me otherwise.

I really like the part where he DOESN'T shit down his leg....

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Happy feet. Looks like Sanchez at the same stage. Meh.

GET THAT MOTHER****ING SHIT OUTTA' HERE!

Just a comparative tool for you to use.

Go watch Smith in college and compare him to Goff on the field.

You tell me who was the better college QB.

:cuss: Damnit Sacc!

"He projects to be a great fantasy back up"

"Don't expect him to put up great fantasy numbers in his 1st( or 11th )season"!

LMAO

The mere fact that Goff is already standing tall in pockets full of defenders and delivering strikes downfield puts him miles ahead of Alex "shit-my-pants-and-run-when-defender-breaches-peripheral-vision" Smith.

Yeah~!

MoAR Game MAnagiNg NoODLe Arms!~!

Go watch Smith's college reels. Dude was absolutely balls. He was a substantially better QB at the same stage.

I understand that everyone wants John Elway and thinks that if they pick one in the first round that virtually ensures that you are going to get him. However, that's not the case and you know it.

And I have no problem taking a QB in the first. Look at my current draft. In fact, I think that they have the potential to snag a decent one this year if they decide to go that route. (Really depends on Murray, his development and what they see in him from a future perspectve.)

Sorry C.E. The guy doesn't throw a very good ball - overthrows a lot, has happy feet and doesn't have very good pocket awareness.

Not really impressed by him at all.

Goff will be a better NFL QB because he actually has to make reads and learn how to play at the next level.

I like Goff.. Massive step up from Bo Wallace I must say. I doubt he's there when we pick though.

That is incorrect. He has great pocket awareness.

If there is one thing I've learned in the 8 years that sac has been here, there's only one moron that articulates his moronacy at the same level on this site.

I don't see it. Reminds me a lot of Sanchez at the same level.

Seems to have decent enough feel and athleticism, but looks like he is just getting by on this level on that versus having truly elite level skill-set. He doesn't throw a good enough ball - it's loose from a spiral perspective, it's a little "lofty" without the velocity and it doesn't drive downfield.

He's also antsy in the pocket with feet that dance versus setting and throwing through the ball with a complete motion.

I think he's been a little bit of a product of Dykes' system versus having a true "elite" skill set, much the same way that Sanchez was at USC. Very good college QB that I don't see easily transitioning to the next level due to some problems in his techniques and lack of arm strength.

He'll get a lot of "Chad Pennington" comparisons, but Pennington was a better QB at the same stage. Better arm, better technique. Goff is closer to what Sanchez was at similar points in their college careers.

Sanchez was a ****ing deity "at that level".

Would trade Daniel and Murray straight the **** up.

Product of the system more than anything. Solid QB, but poor technique that never developed, never got better - basically because he didn't have to because of said system and quality of surrounding players.

Goff is in a similar situation with similar tools.

I'd have a hard time pulling the trigger on him even over a guy like Hackenberg, who seems to have completely hit the wall in terms of positional development, but who has a sick tool level for the position. Hackenberg needs a players coach in a good system to re-build his confidence and a decent NFL QB(s) to learn under for two or three years, but he's got much, much more upside than a guy like Goff.

Reid, Smith and Daniel teaching Hack for three years would offer up a much more salivating promise of positional superiority versus drafting an Average Joe like Goff and having him start sooner rather than later.

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I'm sold.

Goff it is.

LMAO

You wanted to draft Clausen too.

You don't have to be that great when you are surrounded by the best talent on the west coast.

Sanchez playoff victories in the modern NFL? 4

Chiefs play off victories since 1994? 0.0

A little bit of Goffs pocket work.

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Perfectly placed ball under pressure
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A few more random nice plays.

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Incredible throw into a tight window while getting hit.

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Incredible scramble and throw.

I do agree that his feet are antsy, much like Peyton Mannings, but his mind is cool as a cucumber. All while he's shucking and jiving he's scanning the entire field and evading pressure. He doesn't panick, and he usually makes good decisions and delivers a decent ball under pressure.

I also feel that you are massively selling his arm talent short. His arm strength is average, but he has great placement and touch. He can lob it over a defense, rifle it between defenders, He can make spot throws, he can place the ball on whatever shoulder he wants. He almost never leads his receivers into danger. Very accurate thrower.

Have you seen him this year? Or are you basing this on last year? He looks much improved.

That play against Oregon is sex.

Has the arm improved?

Because it is not impressive in any of the clips from last year, and I remember thinking he threw a fluttering ball when I saw him a few times last season. I think he's a good NFL prospect, but not an unbelievable one.

No, I didn't.

I said, consistently, that I was not sold on him.

Unless you're a cheap dickhole who sticks his finger in the air every spring and says, "All of these QBs in this draft suck," then you were undoubtedly wrong about one or two QBs.

And those people are Black Bob types who think the Chiefs offensive line is why Alex is so bad right now.

Many Lil' Chiefy's must feed their excuse-line in order to continue pimping high-round fatty selections for the love of fatties.

It's a sad obsession, really.

You are a hard man to impress then :D. But yes he does still throw the occasional duck.

Here are some clips from his Wash St. Game.

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Watch him pump fake that safety into coming down, and then throw a near perfect ball... JIZZ

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From PFF
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PFF says his accuracy under pressure has been "other worldly" this season.
He also has an 80% completion rate on passes that travel past 20 yards.. And his garbage o line has given up 50+ pressures in their 5 games so far.

Heres the article.
https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...n-the-country/

Great college accuracy is nice. But you need the arm strength to go with it, or it doesn't transfer to the pro game like you'd expect.

I am hard to impress when it comes to QB, and I think that's fair considering what the failure rate of QBs is.

His arm strength looks to have improved a lot in the clips in the last post (which are all from this year, unlike the highlight tape). That would take him up several notches in my books.

Not unusual for a lanky guy to pick up arm strength as he matures. I like the natural accuracy, but am not gaga just yet.

I agree that certain throws that can be made in college can't be made in the nfl without arm strength. I kind of see Arm strength the same way I see break away speed for a RB. It's a weapon for sure, but it's so far down the pecking order that it doesn't really matter, unless a guy just has a complete noodle. There are a few elite/really good QB's with average arm strength like Peyton, Brees, Rivers. A few elite RB's without breakaway speed. Bell, Lynch, Lacy, etc. For me personally I like the guy with the accuracy and touch much more than the guy with the cannon arm who's inconsistent with it. But that is just my personal opinion. Lots of other people value arm strength more. I really don't think arm strength is important in our offensive scheme either... Assuming Andy Reid doesn't get fired lol.

I think Goff will go #1 overall. If he doesn't, KC better sell the ****ing farm to get the kid. He has plenty of arm strength and his feet are Rodgers-like, not "happy."

trade 3 1sts for this asshole

i haven't watched him play, but there is some interesting stuff about him in this grantland article

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/ar...break-through/

Now that's a goddamned QB.

unff

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What a studly young rifle! Exciting!

#tankforgoff
#fastestgifinthewest

That's about as beautifully delivered as one could ask for #KerriganAlex

I think we have a shot at Goff if we lose to the Bears tomorrow.

Here's to a crushing, merciless defeat!

Goff having a bad night.

Well, he looks like shit tonight.

Let's see if he can come back.

4th pick lol. i think thats more than he has through the other 5 games of the season.

*sigh*

Go Chiefs. Beat the Bears.

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5 picks ugh

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Goff ain't done.

Should we keep rooting for picks? Will that make him drop to our inevitable 8-8 draft slot?

What an abortion. Just like most of the Pac 12 QB's. I do love bashing on them. Yeah, no. This kid is ****ing legit. I don't care what he did tonight. Watch him go for 400 next week and 6 TD's.

Not against UCLA. But he'll bounce back. He's gonna be a ****ing baller.

nor are the skidmarks in your pantalones

He had a bad night. That shit happens. Its what he does NOW, after the aborti, that counts.

If he bounces back and balls, his stock goes through the roof. Same with Cook.

And yes, you root for picks as well as the firing of those who need firing.

Come the **** on, people.

Five interceptions.

****ing guy sucks.

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THIS THREAD NOW IN PLAY

Isn't that "Golden Age" football in Sacc World? :D

no quarter back good enough for chiefs this year sorry


they have to be undefeated in college and taste like alex smith, otherwise pass

TO RISKY

I'd love to have them draft a QB, but Goff is a system guy that has bad feet and doesn't feel the pocket well. His production is over inflated due to Dykes offense, which basically the same "Air Raid" offense run by all Hal Mumme disciples, and it showed when they played Utah, who runs a very "pro" style of defense. (And Utah really isn't that good this year. They don't have any dynamic players on the defensive side of the ball. They are well coached however and play a strong, press man coverage type of defense that will expose spread systems, such as what they did against Oregon and California this season.)

IMO, I don't think he's nearly as good as either Geno Smith (same type of offensive system) or Teddy Bridgewater, let alone the bullshit Matt Ryan comparisons. And he's definitely not better than Alex Smith at the same stage.

He's going to have to be taught/re-learn the position for the pro game. He's also slight of build and will require a strength/conditioning program to get him ready to play at the next level. He's a project with some question marks.

I really don't think he's worth a first.

I can respect this. So who then? Hack, Doink, or Cook? Or, do we enjoy another "winning season" with the ReidSmith and wait on Hundley?

I wish our profile lines were long enough to quote this post. It's the same thing every year.

With the risk of offending kcnative, Boykin isn't going to play QB at the NFL level. He's short for the position at the next level (he's much closer to 6'0" than his listed 6'2") and very slight of build. He's exciting, a great athlete and all that in college, but it's not going to translate to the next level.

Hackenberg has all the tools you want, but he could be absolutely ruined. He's never really progressed from his freshman year and actually some believe he's regressed.

Cook...eh. He's ballsy and confident, but that also leads to most of his problems/potential problems. He wings it a lot when he's pressured and he feels pressure too easily from what I've seen, i.e., he breaks down too quickly and gets sloppy with his fundamentals. Good arm though and you like his demeanor.

Also, Goff, Hackenberg and Cardale Jones are all juniors. (As is Memphis QB Paxton Lynch, who I really like a lot, but he and Jones are redshirt juniors.)

Those guys may or may not declare.

I'd also seriously look at Stanford's Kevin Hogan in this upcoming draft. 6'4", 230 lb. senior with a cannon for an arm. Stanford is a run oriented offense so he's not putting up the gaudy statistics of the spread guys, but he's a smart, strong, tough QB that's a pretty good athlete. He's also been playing on a high ankle sprain that's limited his numbers somewhat the past couple of weeks.

Shit, I'll even take a Dak Prescott. Like what I've seen from him.

From what you've shown me, I would ABSOLUTELY take a flier on him. Yesterday.

Hogan is definitely intriguing. As is Hackenberg (could really blossom if allowed to sit and learn for a little while).

Cardale Jones obviously has huge tools, but there's some risk there, too.

I'd be fine/happy with any of those guys.

Still not sold on Goff. Just don't think the arm is special, and I'm skeptical that system has prepared him for the NFL.

Goff is a young Matthew Cassel.

That's fine. He's going to sit on the bench in KC for a year anyway, while Alex dinks and dunks his way into oblivion. Any QB will.

We are in the perfect situation to pick a QB now. No pressure on the young'un.

Sure, I've got no problem with a guy sitting. I'm just not that impressed with Goff. That arm looks Pennington-esque.

If I'm going to spend a few years developing a guy, let's do it with someone who has an elite NFL arm.

What era Pennington?

Who does Tyler Bray compare to?

He's not as good as Pennington at the same level.

Beat off to Goff