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Rain Man 01-31-2019 09:21 PM

How likely is your job to be automated?
 
Here's a link to do a lookup: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...niversity-one/. You can do a search in the table.

There may be nuanced differences, so look up synonyms for your job. For example, my initial guess of market research analyst is 61% likely to be automated, but survey researcher is only 23 percent likely to be automated, and management analysis is only 13 percent. I might also be a marketing manager (kind of), which is only 1.4 percent likely. If I average these, I figure I'm about 24.6 percent likely to have my job go away in the future.

htismaqe 01-31-2019 09:25 PM

Considering that one of the key pieces of my job is automating other people's jobs?

:hmmm:

Hog's Gone Fishin 01-31-2019 09:27 PM

Pig jerking cannot be automated.

mlyonsd 01-31-2019 09:28 PM

I'm a system programmer. 99% of my job is already automated. I spend 100% of my time making sure the other 99% is running correctly.

TrebMaxx 01-31-2019 09:29 PM

Mine said 65% but it won't matter to me. I doubt it will happen in four years and I will be retired by then.

Flying High D 01-31-2019 09:30 PM

Electrical Engineer, oh hell no.

mr. tegu 01-31-2019 09:34 PM

How is model listed at 98%?

mr. tegu 01-31-2019 09:35 PM

Mine is at 0.5% for mental health counselor. I’m guessing no one will beat that.

POND_OF_RED 01-31-2019 09:35 PM

I work as a technician fixing automation robots. I put over 99% because it’s technically already automation, but if you’re talking how long until we make automation robots to fix the automation robots then that is a whole different story. I hope I’m not around to see that day.

TambaBerry 01-31-2019 09:36 PM

Mine says 25% but a lot of mine is writing program to automate the busy work anyways. So not really sure

Buehler445 01-31-2019 09:40 PM

0% chance of the business owner.

I'm hoping the field operations get automated so I can do more managing but that is unlikely.

Like I've went into on the automated cars, they have to figure out the liability issue if there is no operator - it then falls on the manufacturer and Mother Deere doesn't play that way.

arrwheader 01-31-2019 09:47 PM

21 percent likely as a web developer. A lot of it is already automated so I guess I feel pretty good about that.

Rain Man 01-31-2019 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flying High D (Post 14084246)
Electrical Engineer, oh hell no.

10 percent according to the link. Look to your left and then look to your right, and then look three more to your left and four more to your right, and one of you is a goner.

TambaBerry 01-31-2019 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14084267)
0% chance of the business owner.

I'm hoping the field operations get automated so I can do more managing but that is unlikely.

Like I've went into on the automated cars, they have to figure out the liability issue if there is no operator - it then falls on the manufacturer and Mother Deere doesn't play that way.

Just put sensors around your fields and then it's basically a giant roomba

TambaBerry 01-31-2019 09:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14084283)
Just put sensors around your fields and then it's basically a giant roomba

Actually you could very easily use GPS to have one of those run through a field by itself

Rain Man 01-31-2019 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14084284)
Just put sensors around your fields and then it's basically a giant roomba

Yeah, but it would scare the feral cats.

Mr_Tomahawk 01-31-2019 10:02 PM

Architect.

I’m good.

Garcia Bronco 01-31-2019 10:03 PM

People Leadership and Cyber Security

GloryDayz 01-31-2019 10:12 PM

If they pay me, they can feel free to automate this mother****er.

kysirsoze 01-31-2019 10:21 PM

lmao An actor has a 37% chance of being computerized??? What nerds put this list together!?!

Rain Man 01-31-2019 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 14084319)
lmao An actor has a 37% chance of being computerized??? What nerds put this list together!?!

Woody says hi.

https://lumiere-a.akamaihd.net/v1/im..._9b42e613.jpeg

mr. tegu 01-31-2019 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr_Tomahawk (Post 14084293)
Architect.

I’m good.


What happened to marine biology? I really thought you would do well in it.

Buehler445 01-31-2019 10:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 14084283)
Just put sensors around your fields and then it's basically a giant roomba

Don't need it. GPS boundaries. The technology has been there for a decade and a half, but Deere won't release it because if some kid runs out in front of a planter or something, there is no operator to assume liability, so it falls on Mother Deere. Mother Deere don't play that way, so there has to be an operator in the machine that is responsible for collision avoidance.

kjwood75nro 01-31-2019 11:43 PM

8% for fish and game wardens, 9.8% for regular police/sheriff.

Can't really see how.

BWillie 01-31-2019 11:50 PM

Already see it in poker. It used to be the easiest players or close to it were bots - now they have advanced strategies and are never prone to tilt playing an unexploitable strategy.

Rain Man 02-01-2019 12:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kjwood75nro (Post 14084374)
8% for fish and game wardens, 9.8% for regular police/sheriff.

Can't really see how.

https://is2-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/t...lsr/268x0w.png

BlackOp 02-01-2019 01:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin (Post 14084235)
Pig jerking cannot be automated.

I've started a go-fund-me called "I-Jack". We provide hand jobs for our robot masters....

eDave 02-01-2019 01:47 AM

I would am the one implementing the automation.

lawrenceRaider 02-01-2019 05:16 AM

My job isn't listed, does that mean zero?

Reerun_KC 02-01-2019 08:18 AM

How safe would you feel flying knowing there isn’t a pilot upfront. It’s coming in the next 6-9 decades.

tmax63 02-01-2019 08:25 AM

As a retired but part-time delivery driver just to keep me busy it said 60+%. I'm betting it will take until after I'm tired of this gig.

Donger 02-01-2019 08:28 AM

0% chance.

Lzen 02-01-2019 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 14084560)
How safe would you feel flying knowing there isn’t a pilot upfront. It’s coming in the next 6-9 decades.

About as safe as I would a car that is automated, not much at all. I mean, I have seen the blue screen of Windows. Know what I mean?

scho63 02-01-2019 08:30 AM

Being a salesman has it's advantages

RedRaider56 02-01-2019 08:31 AM

I'm in high tech software sales, so the chance of automating that process is extremely slim.

Reerun_KC 02-01-2019 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lzen (Post 14084583)
About as safe as I would a car that is automated, not much at all. I mean, I have seen the blue screen of Windows. Know what I mean?

There are so many aspects in a cockpit that can’t be automated with current technology. Even so, with automated vehicles, tractors, trains, etc. There is a human element that just can’t be replaced for safety.

htismaqe 02-01-2019 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eDave (Post 14084450)
I would am the one implementing the automation.

Right. That's kind of where I'm at.

BigRedChief 02-01-2019 08:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14084226)
Here's a link to do a lookup: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/201...niversity-one/. You can do a search in the table.

There may be nuanced differences, so look up synonyms for your job. For example, my initial guess of market research analyst is 61% likely to be automated, but survey researcher is only 23 percent likely to be automated, and management analysis is only 13 percent. I might also be a marketing manager (kind of), which is only 1.4 percent likely. If I average these, I figure I'm about 24.6 percent likely to have my job go away in the future.

I've posted about automation several times on here. It's a freight train coming to change our society. AI and cheap processing power is putting this into overdrive. I personally designed a plan a couple of months ago that will render over 100 jobs obsolete. Many >$100K.

People can ignore it until their family or neighbor loses their job but its already here. Every scientific study/article I've read says 30%-40% of current jobs will be lost. The worst unemployment % in the depression of the 30's was 22%. Every field will be affected. Those who think in this poll that it wont effect them are delusional. No job or field will be spared.

Just think of the societal change coming. There will be an estimated 5% gain in jobs with automation. But, your still at depression level unemployment. We are going to have to institute some level of basic income for citizens to keep them off the street and starving, prevent riots.

I hope we embrace this evolution because these lost jobs are never coming back. You cant stop the automation train.

TambaBerry 02-01-2019 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 14084344)
Don't need it. GPS boundaries. The technology has been there for a decade and a half, but Deere won't release it because if some kid runs out in front of a planter or something, there is no operator to assume liability, so it falls on Mother Deere. Mother Deere don't play that way, so there has to be an operator in the machine that is responsible for collision avoidance.

maybe thats what you make the sensors for, it shocks the kid and puts him down until the equipment gets done doing its job

mikeyis4dcats. 02-01-2019 09:10 AM

7.1%

Third Eye 02-01-2019 09:23 AM

21% for actuaries. Seems about right. The data/predictive analytics part of the field is already heading that way.

BigRedChief 02-01-2019 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Third Eye (Post 14084690)
21% for actuaries. Seems about right. The data/predictive analytics part of the field is already heading that way.

We are a consumer economy more than anything else now. Have you taken into account that your field will have 30% less global and USA customers?

Randallflagg 02-01-2019 09:42 AM

I dunno....I'm retired. I guess that at least for me - death is the final "automation"

loochy 02-01-2019 09:43 AM

This thread is nothing but a forum for humblebrags about jobs. Come on, I know some of you are cotton pickers or something.

BigRedChief 02-01-2019 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randallflagg (Post 14084711)
I dunno....I'm retired. I guess that at least for me - death is the final "automation"

If your getting Social Security money, you'll be effected. When revenues fall and people are desperate, you think politicians wont go after the piggy bank of social security funds? Hell, they already do it now.

BigRedChief 02-01-2019 09:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 14084713)
This thread is nothing but a forum for humblebrags about jobs. Come on, I know some of you are cotton pickers or something.

Again, even cotton pickers aren't getting off the hook.:)

Third Eye 02-01-2019 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14084708)
We are a consumer economy more than anything else now. Have you taken into account that your field will have 30% less global and USA customers?

Um, what?

The actuarial industry is expecting strong growth as we continue to be more and more data driven. As a health actuary, we aren’t going anywhere.

Demonpenz 02-01-2019 10:08 AM

I have worked in a factory for a long time cutting open bags and dumping them into bins. It still looks like a long ways off that it is automated. Lifeline foods here in st joseph is the same way. You get 16 an hour for sweeping corn. You would think that they would automate that but there is no plans or talk of it at all.

Demonpenz 02-01-2019 10:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 14084713)
This thread is nothing but a forum for humblebrags about jobs. Come on, I know some of you are cotton pickers or something.

I cut bags open and dump them into buckets.

BWillie 02-01-2019 10:12 AM

That is why eventually we will have no choice but to move to socialism. Its going to suck. If even 35% of your workforce cant work - then government & society needs to start paying people just to exist & take shits. Universal Basic Income. The idiots you see now playing video games on Twitch, making YouTube content. They are ahead of the curve actually. That is where we are headed and how many will make money.

Iczer 02-01-2019 10:32 AM

Uh as a sys admin, I spend a decent amount of time already automating monotonous tasks. However DevOps is bringing a lot more to play in my area of field.

If I had to guess, i'd say 25%. Not everyone is bleeding edge either due to manpower, knowledge or money. It's not cheap to implement, let alone manage. I think most managers think once you automate something, you step back and forget about it. But there's care and feeding to keep it going.

Rain Man 02-01-2019 10:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 14084771)
I cut bags open and dump them into buckets.

I can see them automating your job, but I don't see them ever automating the buckets' jobs.

Randallflagg 02-01-2019 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 14084716)
If your getting Social Security money, you'll be effected. When revenues fall and people are desperate, you think politicians wont go after the piggy bank of social security funds? Hell, they already do it now.


I don't know....I've seen that hammer being used for the last 50 years - each and every political season - the "wannabes" tell us that "THEY" (the government I guess) is going to take our social security away - yet here it is.

So no - I'm not too worried about that.

mikeyis4dcats. 02-01-2019 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 14084769)
I have worked in a factory for a long time cutting open bags and dumping them into bins. It still looks like a long ways off that it is automated. Lifeline foods here in st joseph is the same way. You get 16 an hour for sweeping corn. You would think that they would automate that but there is no plans or talk of it at all.


automation won't be for your job, your job will be eliminated because of better processing equipment eliminates the spoils and/or need to hand load material.

htismaqe 02-01-2019 11:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz (Post 14084771)
I cut bags open and dump them into buckets.

Your job has already been automated. As a robot, you just don't have the self-awareness to realize it.

The Franchise 02-01-2019 11:28 AM

Mine isn't even on there.

SuperChief 02-01-2019 12:23 PM

.6% woo woo!

Rain Man 02-01-2019 12:52 PM

It seems like automating the job of 'professional football player' would solve a lot of the challenges the NFL is facing. No more concussions, no more big contract demands, no more domestic violence scandals, no more drug testing...you know they're working on it.

So would you watch football if it was played by robots?

The Franchise 02-01-2019 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14085109)
It seems like automating the job of 'professional football player' would solve a lot of the challenges the NFL is facing. No more concussions, no more big contract demands, no more domestic violence scandals, no more drug testing...you know they're working on it.

So would you watch football if it was played by robots?

Wouldn't it be the exact same team....just with a different logo and uniform?

Bearcat 02-01-2019 12:59 PM

All the jobs will be automated by 2030, we'll all be flying around in our cars by 2000.

https://www.iliketowastemytime.com/s...portation1.jpg

underEJ 02-01-2019 01:04 PM

Closest one I could find was Art Director at 2.3, next closest is animator at 1.5. I think that is underestimated.

oldman 02-01-2019 01:06 PM

It's hard to automate a mean old man with arthritis. Just sayin'.

Demonpenz 02-01-2019 01:15 PM

The good thing about being broke is you already have the skl of getting busy while broke.

digger 02-01-2019 01:17 PM

#Learn to code

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BigRedChief 02-01-2019 02:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by digger (Post 14085192)
#Learn to code

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not a solution. As the tech progresses and becomes easier, There will always be someone to write the code cheaper. And A.I. Is going to write any code that you would need.

You already have a rudimentary code generating with Powershell. Just select some boxes it generates the code you need to automate the task. Azure, it’s even easier.

suzzer99 02-01-2019 02:34 PM

If your job is automated I'm probably going to be the one programming it. So at least I'm last to go before skynet takes over.

Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan 02-01-2019 06:11 PM

89% chance that technical writing will be automated?

Pffeh, yeah, that's gonna happen? Too many manuals read like they're written by monkeys already. A "good" tech writer takes the system/user interface into account and does good analysis on the product before they ever begin writing.

J Diddy 02-01-2019 06:12 PM

I got a pacemaker and an artificial heart valve. Think I’m already partially automated.

Randallflagg 02-01-2019 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 14085133)
All the jobs will be automated by 2030, we'll all be flying around in our cars by 2000.

https://www.iliketowastemytime.com/s...portation1.jpg


ROFL


WE were told that we would have flying cars in 1969......Ooooops...

displacedinMN 02-01-2019 06:26 PM

Even though teachers are doing more online and there are online schools, I do not feel like education can be completely automated.

Computers are good at correcting multiple choice tests, but cannot grade opinion and project based learning.

So I am going to vote 20%.

Also-even computers and robots do not want to be around MIDDLE SCHOOL CHILDREN.

ToxSocks 02-01-2019 06:37 PM

I do too many jobs to ever be automated.

In a single day i could be doing any assortment of these things:

Parts Install
Parts Sales
Parts Orders
Vehicle Build planning & in person meetings with clients.
Estimates
Payment Processing and Accounting
Tech Support
Customer Service
Social Media Interaction on I.G and FB, i maintain our YouTube too.

Advertising and marketing, i.e designing flyers, business cards, brochures, store signs, stickers, clothing and all other print media etc.
Video filming & editing

Company itinerary for whatever is needed at the time. This ranges from our own personal custom Day/month/week Planners, labor sheets, parts request forms, anything in excel etc. Any document that helps us stay more organized, i make.

Creating instructions for our products (uploading them to our site in PDF format)
Product photography (using a light booth and then edited in Photoshop)
Vehicle Photography for our Social Media
Website development and updates i.e adding new products, banners, graphics etc. We use a Drupal site which is pretty advanced.

I'm sure im missing stuff, but you get the idea.

ToxSocks 02-01-2019 06:38 PM

Oh, and posting on Chiefsplanet in the meantime lol

BigRedChief 02-01-2019 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Misplaced_Chiefs_Fan (Post 14085789)
89% chance that technical writing will be automated?

Pffeh, yeah, that's gonna happen? Too many manuals read like they're written by monkeys already. A "good" tech writer takes the system/user interface into account and does good analysis on the product before they ever begin writing.

Yeah, the crap not written by tech writers is useless. It’s either so superficial that it probably unusable or they try to hard to provide every single detail and then you can’t find what your looking for quickly.

lewdog 02-01-2019 07:31 PM

.6%.

Not bad.

stevieray 02-01-2019 07:47 PM

1.5

seems high.

prhom 02-01-2019 07:54 PM

Seems like the should also look at how MUCH of a job is likely to be automated. The jobs like data entry and bookkeeping and jobs focused around singular, well-defined tasks. Jobs like “engineering” are not so singular. Sure, many of the tasks performed by an engineer can and will become automated, but defining the problem to be solved and setting in which it will be implemented involves other tasks which will never be automated because they are unique and the risk to human safety from having the entire process automated is too great.

BigRedChief 02-01-2019 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 14085885)
1.5

seems high.

they can’t automate artistic talent. But, business can get hurt by people getting laid off. That would effect the commercial side of art. Less disposable income to spend on art by the public. As far as automation goes, your talent may be one of the best suited to not be affected.

Rain Man 02-01-2019 08:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by prhom (Post 14085890)
Seems like the should also look at how MUCH of a job is likely to be automated. The jobs like data entry and bookkeeping and jobs focused around singular, well-defined tasks. Jobs like “engineering” are not so singular. Sure, many of the tasks performed by an engineer can and will become automated, but defining the problem to be solved and setting in which it will be implemented involves other tasks which will never be automated because they are unique and the risk to human safety from having the entire process automated is too great.

I don't know their methodology, but it seems like it might not be actual jobs getting eliminated, but rather the mundane parts of jobs being eliminated and then the remaining tasks being Consolidated into fewer FTEs. At least, that's how I would envision it.

prhom 02-01-2019 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rain Man (Post 14085954)
I don't know their methodology, but it seems like it might not be actual jobs getting eliminated, but rather the mundane parts of jobs being eliminated and then the remaining tasks being Consolidated into fewer FTEs. At least, that's how I would envision it.

Agreed, that would make more sense. The jobs with a higher percentage of mundane tasks will be affected to a greater degree.

Easy 6 02-01-2019 10:59 PM

I will absolutely be retired before AI takes over

#NotCoding


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