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Hammock Parties 11-18-2018 08:43 AM

Eric Berry on track for December return
 
https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/e...efensive-help/

Quote:

The Kansas City Chiefs have become a Super Bowl favorite despite a leaky defense, but sources maintained that significant help is on the way. Safety Eric Berry, a former Defensive Player of the Year candidate and one of the most loved and respected members of that organization, continued to make strides from a long-term heel injury, and could be back as soon as after Kansas City's Week 12 bye, sources said.

Berry will not play in Monday's clash with the Rams – one of the most anticipated games of the season – and has yet to practice, but the team made a point to take every precaution with the playmaker and has been eyeing the weeks following the bye to implement him back into the lineup. It's expected Berry would begin practicing after the bye, with a return in Week 13 or 14 likely at this point.

The Chiefs secondary has been a major concern this season, with the offense carrying a heavy scoring burden in leading the team to the top of the AFC standings. The recent return of pass rusher Justin Houston has boosted the front seven, and getting Berry back before the playoffs could be another considerable addition.

Berry tore his Achilles tendon in the first game of the 2017 season and has been absent since. He has dealt with heel and foot complications from the injury and overcome several hurdles in his recovery to reach the point where the team feels very positive about his return. Berry provided inspiration, leadership and dominance in his return to the Chiefs in 2016 after overcoming cancer, and the players and coaches eagerly await his upcoming 2018 debut.

Coach 11-18-2018 08:45 AM

In other words....

He's still day-to-day.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-18-2018 08:53 AM

He should be full go by the time we play the Chargers it sounds like.

O.city 11-18-2018 08:53 AM

The team has felt positive he’d play all year

He’ll play when he wants to I guess

chinaski 11-18-2018 08:56 AM

Berry wears his war wound like a crown
He calls his problem Haglund - 'cause he likes the name
And he wears the finest shoe in town
Berry, Berry likes his money
He makes a lot they say
Spends his days counting
On a sidelline near the Interstate

FlaChief58 11-18-2018 08:56 AM

I ain't from Missouri but, show me.

GMitch 11-18-2018 08:56 AM

This is what I've been expecting. The heel is going to hurt to play on and the more he plays, the more it will hurt until he can't play. Bring him back late in the season, use him through the playoffs and he can heal in the off-season.

SupDock 11-18-2018 08:57 AM

Lmao. He was called day to day in preseason, and now they are saying week 13 or 14, and that is supposed to be good news?

BigRedChief 11-18-2018 08:57 AM

Thats exactly what the KC Star reporters podcast said 3 weeks ago.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-18-2018 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMitch (Post 13897477)
This is what I've been expecting. The heel is going to hurt to play on and the more he plays, the more it will hurt until he can't play. Bring him back late in the season, use him through the playoffs and he can heal in the off-season.

It seems to me that he needs to play this year as much as he can, and then have surgery to fix the heel deformity this off-season immediately. I know that it likely entails another Achilles recovery, but at this point, who cares. This heel thing will never be good again unless they have the surgery and shave that bone down.

arrwheader 11-18-2018 08:59 AM

Lol now it’s December uh huh I remember a similar article where it was November.

Eh I hope it’s true but we’ll see.

notorious 11-18-2018 09:00 AM

Change date, copy and paste article.

Hammock Parties 11-18-2018 09:00 AM

has la canfora reported anything before though?

O.city 11-18-2018 09:00 AM

If it does I’m fact need surgery, that shit should have been done mo this ago so he’d be ready to go next year

CervezaChill 11-18-2018 09:02 AM

Didn’t Jeffrey Chadiha report ‘many in the Chiefs camp expect’ Berry to play in the Jags game. That was two months ago.

Pablo 11-18-2018 09:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chinaski (Post 13897474)
Berry wears his war wound like a crown
He calls his problem Haglund - 'cause he likes the name
And he wears the finest shoe in town
Berry, Berry likes his money
He makes a lot they say
Spends his days counting
On a sidelline near the Interstate

I enjoyed this. The best Elton song imo.

GMitch 11-18-2018 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13897483)
It seems to me that he needs to play this year as much as he can, and then have surgery to fix the heel deformity this off-season immediately. I know that it likely entails another Achilles recovery, but at this point, who cares. This heel thing will never be good again unless they have the surgery and shave that bone down.

I should have said "get it fixed" instead of "heal".

rabblerouser 11-18-2018 09:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 13897459)
In other words....

He's still day-to-day.

Yup.

RealSNR 11-18-2018 09:05 AM

He's still a ****ing idiot for not getting the damn surgery

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CaliforniaChief 11-18-2018 09:11 AM

We'll see whether we get a fresh Berry or a rotten Berry.

OKchiefs 11-18-2018 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMitch (Post 13897477)
This is what I've been expecting. The heel is going to hurt to play on and the more he plays, the more it will hurt until he can't play. Bring him back late in the season, use him through the playoffs and he can heal in the off-season.

Heal in the offseason? How the hell is he going to heal in the offseason? He had all last offseason to take care of this issue, and either he or the Chiefs dropped the ball on not getting it fixed. The Haglund Deformity obviously didn't just pop up in August. He's clearly had it for a while, yet they inexplicably didn't do shit to fix it when they had a chance. What exactly is going to be different next year? Unless we get rid of Berry we're going to go through the exact same charade next year, only at an even higher cap hit.

OKchiefs 11-18-2018 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13897499)
He's still a ****ing idiot for not getting the damn surgery

This. Either him or the Chiefs. I find absolutely no conceivable way this wasn't a known issue, seeing as he's had issues with the foot for several years now. Berry or the Chiefs severely dropped the ball by not fixing this a long time ago.

ptlyon 11-18-2018 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 13897504)
We'll see whether we get a fresh Berry or a rotten Berry.

I prefer boisen

Reerun_KC 11-18-2018 09:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 13897504)
We'll see whether we get a fresh Berry or a rotten Berry.

Probably end up with a Blackberry....

CaliforniaChief 11-18-2018 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 13897515)
Probably end up with a Blackberry....

That's all I'm asking for. Because right now, he's an elderberry.

Naptown Chief 11-18-2018 09:23 AM

ROFL yea, ok.

Naptown Chief 11-18-2018 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 13897519)
That's all I'm asking for. Because right now, he's an elderberry.

Dingleberry.

pugsnotdrugs19 11-18-2018 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13897489)
If it does I’m fact need surgery, that shit should have been done mo this ago so he’d be ready to go next year

Hard to do when you have a shot to win it this year

chiefzilla1501 11-18-2018 09:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 13897459)
In other words....

He's still day-to-day.

This sounds like they're finally giving a specific timeline from actual sources. Other reports gave vague medical speculation. I'm optimistic this is finally good news.

O.city 11-18-2018 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13897527)
Hard to do when you have a shot to win it this year

And he hasn’t played a snap yet. Now if he plays and gets hurt seriously he’s probably missing next year too.

Someone has absolutely botched this completely

SupDock 11-18-2018 09:40 AM

2 weeks ago Sam Mellinger reported that the chiefs were hoping to have Berry back by the end of November

Chiefs hope to get Berry back before the end of November. https://www.google.com/amp/s/247spor...124301877/Amp/

Eric Berry injury update: Chiefs hope for safety’s return in next 2 weeks. This is September 16th https://www.google.com/amp/s/arrowhe...t-2-weeks/amp/

https://www.google.com/amp/amp.kansa...217857025.html Chiefs safety Eric Berry remains ‘day to day’ for Sunday’s opener at Chargers

https://www.google.com/amp/s/arrowhe...-analysis/amp/ Eric Berry "literally day-to-day" per Andy Reid

njchiefs 11-18-2018 09:46 AM

Save him until the final play in the Super Bowl when we are thrashing the Saints 45-17, and then pay him for all the ”inspiration” that he has provided over the past two years.

ThaVirus 11-18-2018 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13897499)
He's still a ****ing idiot for not getting the damn surgery

Are we sure about that? Have we even be clued in as to which part of the foot the deformity is located?

I'm no expert but I had read that if the deformity is on the back of the heel, in order to operate, they need to cut the Achilles, shave the bone down, and then reattach it. Apparently the recovery timeline on that is shorter than if you rupture your Achilles but still takes several months. If Berry had only learned of the deformity deep into training camp or at the start of the season, he may have thought he'd be able to cope with the pain and play at some point this season instead of being shutdown for another year.

oldman 11-18-2018 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13897554)
And he hasn’t played a snap yet. Now if he plays and gets hurt seriously he’s probably missing next year too.

Someone has absolutely botched this completely

True. As some of you know, I have a sports med guy in the family and he says that if it's gone on this long and hasn't responded to other therapies, it's not going to fix itself.

TinyEvel 11-18-2018 10:04 AM

Heal that heel.

OKchiefs 11-18-2018 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 13897568)
Are we sure about that? Have we even be clued in as to which part of the foot the deformity is located?

I'm no expert but I had read that if the deformity is on the back of the heel, in order to operate, they need to cut the Achilles, shave the bone down, and then reattach it. Apparently the recovery timeline on that is shorter than if you rupture your Achilles but still takes several months. If Berry had only learned of the deformity deep into training camp or at the start of the season, he may have thought he'd be able to cope with the pain and play at some point this season instead of being shutdown for another year.

Then him or the Chiefs are ****ing idiots who dropped the ball. This foot has bothered him for a while now, including in 2017 when he very likely overcompensated with the other foot and tore his Achilles. How did nobody think to go in and do a through evaluation of the foot? Like I said, someone dropped the ball. This should have been a known issue long before this season.

dannybcaitlyn 11-18-2018 10:07 AM

He needs to restructure his contract. At this rate we may only get four to five games out of him. If he doesn’t have surgery to fix the flare ups this off-season then we are most likely back in this same scenario next season And even if he goes with the off season surgery he still may miss sept,oct of next season if the procedure involves the Achilles????

FlaChief58 11-18-2018 10:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TinyEvel (Post 13897609)
Heal that heel.

I heel that!

Maine 11-18-2018 10:11 AM

Sounds like he's still month to month

Ebolapox 11-18-2018 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chinaski (Post 13897474)
Berry wears his war wound like a crown
He calls his problem Haglund - 'cause he likes the name
And he wears the finest shoe in town
Berry, Berry likes his money
He makes a lot they say
Spends his days counting
On a sidelline near the Interstate

He was born a safety to a black fam
On a random day
When the New York Times said bush the first sucked
Pat mahomes sr fathered the savior todaaaaaaay

And he shall be berry
And he shall be a great safetyman

Naptown Chief 11-18-2018 10:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Maine (Post 13897617)
Sounds like he's still month to month

Year to year.

HemiEd 11-18-2018 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 13897479)
Thats exactly what the KC Star reporters podcast said 3 weeks ago.

It is what I have been saying all season, saving him until crunch time, the playoffs.

KCUnited 11-18-2018 10:28 AM

Han Solo his ass until we REALLY need him!

TribalElder 11-18-2018 10:28 AM

hope to see berry move from day to day and make the switch over to sideline to sideline

RunKC 11-18-2018 10:30 AM

Whether he plays or not, he should not be getting paid $16.5 million next season.

Needs to be the best the 1st thing on Beach’s agenda once the season is over.

OKchiefs 11-18-2018 10:36 AM

If he comes back, Berry had better make 1-2 big plays a game with no huge blown coverages. If not he should have no problem cutting his remaining salary in half.

oldman 11-18-2018 10:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannybcaitlyn (Post 13897612)
He needs to restructure his contract. At this rate we may only get four to five games out of him. If he doesn’t have surgery to fix the flare ups this off-season then we are most likely back in this same scenario next season And even if he goes with the off season surgery he still may miss sept,oct of next season if the procedure involves the Achilles????

Can he restructure without driving more money we'll never recover into the future? We have enough potentially dead money on the books with him now.

Easy 6 11-18-2018 10:50 AM

Until it happens, it never happened

Marcellus 11-18-2018 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arrwheader (Post 13897485)
Lol now it’s December uh huh I remember a similar article where it was November.

Eh I hope it’s true but we’ll see.

Said by the end of November. Game after the bye is Dec 2nd. :shrug:

Hope he has 9 good games left in him.

Marcellus 11-18-2018 10:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13897661)
If he comes back, Berry had better make 1-2 big plays a game with no huge blown coverages. If not he should have no problem cutting his remaining salary in half.

Or what, you going to continue crying on the internet about it?

OKchiefs 11-18-2018 11:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13897691)
Or what, you going to continue crying on the internet about it?

And you'll continue crying about people crying. The vicious cycle continues.

OKchiefs 11-18-2018 11:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oldman (Post 13897678)
Can he restructure without driving more money we'll never recover into the future? We have enough potentially dead money on the books with him now.

Restructure is the wrong word. If he is not incredibly selfish and is a team player, he will renegotiate a lower salary for the betterment of the team. He's making about as much as Tom Brady, let that sink in.

Dante84 11-18-2018 11:13 AM

Man. We’ve got some real baby-back bitches on this board.

I’m pumped to have Berry back and don’t give a shit about the money. We are 9-1. I’d be fine if he didn’t play until the playoffs.

OKchiefs 11-18-2018 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 13897737)
Man. We’ve got some real baby-back bitches on this board.

I’m pumped to have Berry back and don’t give a shit about the money. We are 9-1. I’d be fine if he didn’t play until the playoffs.

Yeah, a guy who has played 3 quarters in the past 2 years can sit out until the playoffs and still be ready to not be a liability. I've got some beachfront property in Kansas to sell you.

Dante84 11-18-2018 11:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13897741)
Yeah, a guy who has played 3 quarters in the past 2 years can sit out until the playoffs and still be ready to not be a liability. I've got some beachfront property in Kansas to sell you.

Yeah, I’m sure he won’t have fully practiced for weeks and the coaches won’t consider his quality of play before starting him in the hypothetical scenario I suggested.

Jesus.

Chiefshrink 11-18-2018 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chinaski (Post 13897474)
Berry wears his war wound like a crown
He calls his problem Haglund - 'cause he likes the name
And he wears the finest shoe in town
Berry, Berry likes his money
He makes a lot they say
Spends his days counting
On a sidelline near the Interstate

I was always curious as to what Levon's last name is and now I know, thanks man!!:D

KINGPIN CHIEFS FAN 11-18-2018 11:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13897489)
If it does I’m fact need surgery, that shit should have been done mo this ago so he’d be ready to go next year

Been huffing your laughing gas again?ROFL

Hammock Parties 11-18-2018 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13897686)
Until it happens, it never happened

all of this has happened before
and will happen again

https://media.gettyimages.com/photos...4bZ9KLwRmmHJ4=

Easy 6 11-18-2018 11:43 AM

Hope you're right, Clay

I'm still holding onto a glimmer of hope, we'll see...

Fish 11-18-2018 11:48 AM

https://i.imgur.com/rLkHgQZ.jpg

Skyy God 11-18-2018 11:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GMitch (Post 13897477)
This is what I've been expecting. The heel is going to hurt to play on and the more he plays, the more it will hurt until he can't play. Bring him back late in the season, use him through the playoffs and he can GTFO in the off-season.

FYP

jimidollar 11-18-2018 11:59 AM

Berry coming back? Yeah, right. Next you're going to tell me that Condoleeza Rice...

farmerchief 11-18-2018 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13897457)

I would have felt more comfortable, if in the title,OP would have put December "2018"in title,,,:(

BlackOp 11-18-2018 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13897726)
Restructure is the wrong word. If he is not incredibly selfish and is a team player, he will renegotiate a lower salary for the betterment of the team. He's making about as much as Tom Brady, let that sink in.

After the stink Berry caused to get this contract...you really think he's going to give money back when he doesnst have to...not happening.

Marcellus 11-18-2018 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlackOp (Post 13897855)
After the stink Berry caused to get this contract...you really think he's going to give money back when he doesnst have to...not happening.

I guess you forgot he had an All Pro season playing under the franchise tag.

He beat cancer had an all pro season, was franchised and played in all 16 games and had an all pro year, then got paid.

He didn't make a stink to get the money he ****ing earned it.

Even I thought he was overpaid in the contract but you all would still be bitching if he was making $2MM a year less so its moot.

Marcellus 11-18-2018 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13897814)
Hope you're right, Clay

I'm still holding onto a glimmer of hope, we'll see...

Its pretty simple, if they didn't think he was coming back he would be on IR. The team is betting on him being there.

Easy 6 11-18-2018 12:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 13897863)
Its pretty simple, if they didn't think he was coming back he would be on IR. The team is betting on him being there.

You're probably right, but he is gonna have to play some RS games to start developing some chemistry with all of the new faces... cant just throw him out there for the playoffs

Marcellus 11-18-2018 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13897873)
You're probably right, but he is gonna have to play some RS games to start developing some chemistry with all of the new faces... cant just throw him out there for the playoffs

Oh I expect he is back after the bye and thats been the plan for a while. I never bought into the whole save him for the playoffs.

The whole pain management thing is grossly misunderstood IMO. You cant just shoot a guy up for 16 games and think you wont see diminishing returns on it.

I think they didn't expect the issue to be this bad (obviously) and as they kept working on it its been slow to respond. So they were stuck with keep treating it as long as possible and find a good spot to roll him out there and see what happens. :shrug:

JMO

Its either that or he is actually dead and they are paying a homeless dude that looks like him to roam the sidelines so they dont ruin a historic season by telling everyone he actually died from a sore heal. :D

KChiefs1 11-18-2018 12:21 PM

Saving himself for crunch time.


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threebag 11-18-2018 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach (Post 13897459)
In other words....

He's still day-to-day.

I think it should be down/up graded to month-to-month

JakeF 11-18-2018 01:34 PM

Makes me think of Houston a few years ago.

TLO 11-18-2018 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JakeF (Post 13898155)
Makes me think of Houston a few years ago.

When he came back late in the season and looked like he was running with concrete shoes on?

Yeah, I remember that too.

big nasty kcnut 11-18-2018 02:33 PM

Eric berry is like bob sanders you don't hear much from him till it matters.

Eleazar 11-18-2018 02:45 PM

I remember the last “could be practicing soon” article. Good times.

Sweet Daddy Hate 11-18-2018 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by OKchiefs (Post 13897661)
If he comes back, Berry had better make 1-2 big plays a game with no huge blown coverages. If not he should have no problem cutting his remaining salary in half.

How good do you think this guy is going to be after being out for almost 2 seasons?

He's not going to suit up in two weeks and just pick up form where he left off when he was killing it. I know you are skeptical of Berry to say the least, so this is not directed at you personally when I say:


This is ****ing reeruned. Stop being reeruned fans, please.

007 11-18-2018 03:50 PM

Believe it when I see it.

Bump 11-18-2018 03:52 PM

It would be HUGE if he could play the last few games of the season to get warmed up for the playoffs. But he's been out so long it's not a guarantee that he could play at the level he was, but he came back from cancer and played extremely well after that so there's definitely a chance.

PHOG 11-18-2018 03:53 PM

Great! Will believe it when I see it. But we can use all the help we can get. :thumb:

RealSNR 11-18-2018 03:54 PM

The only way to be 100% safe from this is to just not play. Would anybody be surprised to see Berry suffer a season-ending injury in his first game back at this point?

If he's playing through pain, he's bound to continue doing strange things that could lead to... oh, you know... a torn achilles, perhaps?

And at that point, he's 100% done. And I would hope the team would see the same thing and finally treat Berry as a business decision.


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