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O.city 11-20-2018 01:36 PM

Tyreek Hill
 
He's the best WR in football right now.

Prove me wrong.

carcosa 11-20-2018 01:36 PM

Yes!

ToxSocks 11-20-2018 01:37 PM

You're asking Chiefs fans on a Chiefs forum to prove you WRONG that he's the best WR right now?

Odd. Don't think you'll find too many arguing with you.

ptlyon 11-20-2018 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Detoxing (Post 13906853)
You're asking Chiefs fans on a Chiefs forum to prove you WRONG that he's the best WR right now?

Odd. Don't think you'll find too many arguing with you.

He's on the gas, man

Rain Man 11-20-2018 01:40 PM

I cannot prove you wrong. I declare you the winner of this debate.

The Franchise 11-20-2018 01:40 PM

If he's #1....then Michael Thomas is a close ****ing 2nd.

TambaBerry 11-20-2018 01:40 PM

definitely right there with julio and brown

TambaBerry 11-20-2018 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 13906861)
If he's #1....then Michael Thomas is a close ****ing 2nd.

forget about him

staylor26 11-20-2018 01:41 PM

That one catch on the sideline was un****ingreal and probably the most underrated play of the game.

ThaVirus 11-20-2018 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 13906865)
That one catch on the sideline was un****ingreal and probably the most underrated play of the game.


Would have been THE play everyone talked about had we won.

Shame.

displacedinMN 11-20-2018 02:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13906849)
He's the best WR in football right now.

Prove me wrong.

From the MPLS Startrib comment page

Quote:

Question:
Since Cook is reportedly as fast or faster than Tyreek, why doesn't he line up as a WR? We are paying Murray a nice sum. Let's get them both on the field!
ROFL

chiefzilla1501 11-20-2018 02:04 PM

It's hard to play this game. Lots of great WRs for different uses. Great fit for our offense though. Guys like DeAndre Hopkins, thielen, and Antonio brown are pretty damn good too and I'd bet disgustingly good if they played with Mahomes. If I want a speed guy, tyreeks my guy. If I want a jump ball guy, I go with DeAndre. Etc. I'm just happy he's on our team.

Simply Red 11-20-2018 02:05 PM

Bobby Sippio, champ

JohnnyHammersticks 11-20-2018 02:07 PM

For whatever it's worth, after last night's game he's the top WR in fantasy football in terms of points.


Seems like even our nauseating resident SJWs have to admit that Hill has worked his ass off to become much, much more than a track guy playing WR. He's made himself a very good route-runner and his hands are very good as well.

Hydrae 11-20-2018 02:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 13906861)
If he's #1....then Michael Thomas is a close ****ing 2nd.

Have you seen this from an interview of Payton by Peter King?

Payton on the NFL’s most dangerous player: “Hey Drew, tell Peter who’s the most dangerous player in football right now.”

Brees: “Tyreek Hill.”


http://nbcsportsgrouppressbox.com/20...nbcsports-com/

Hammock Parties 11-20-2018 02:21 PM

I never thought I'd see a Chiefs receiver go for 200+ yards in a game.

Get ready to back up that Brinks truck, Clark...

Abba-Dabba 11-20-2018 02:23 PM

He is live now.

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Pasta Little Brioni 11-20-2018 02:36 PM

But he offended several CP members wives, so they will never cheer for him or some shit...

Buckweath 11-20-2018 02:50 PM

Man, those guys will be expensive: Hill, Jones, Fuller, Ford (probably not resigned though)

Hoover 11-20-2018 02:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hydrae (Post 13906944)
Have you seen this from an interview of Payton by Peter King?

Payton on the NFL’s most dangerous player: “Hey Drew, tell Peter who’s the most dangerous player in football right now.”

Brees: “Tyreek Hill.”


http://nbcsportsgrouppressbox.com/20...nbcsports-com/

/Thread

this is all you need to know.

O.city 11-20-2018 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 13907005)
Man, those guys will be expensive: Hill, Jones, Fuller, Ford (probably not resigned though)

This is what happens to go teams and this is also why you've gotta strike while the iron is hot.

You've gotta win a SB in the next 2/3 years. You can't keep everyone and it's hard to draft and replace everyone.

Tribal Warfare 11-20-2018 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13906849)
He's the best WR in football right now.

Prove me wrong.

Tyreek is the Boogeyman striking fear in the oppositions heart

TomBarndtsTwin 11-20-2018 02:58 PM

Top 5 WR's in NFL:

OBJ, Reek, AB, Julio, Thomas.


You can debate the order.

T-post Tom 11-20-2018 03:00 PM

Cheetah rocks. That catch was crazy. (Inside the ten, let it go plz.) Most electric player in NFL.

Buckweath 11-20-2018 03:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13907007)
This is what happens to go teams and this is also why you've gotta strike while the iron is hot.

You've gotta win a SB in the next 2/3 years. You can't keep everyone and it's hard to draft and replace everyone.

Next year, you have to go all in, like literally.

Hill, Jones, Fuller on contract years and right in their prime and all about to cash in.

Houston, Berry, Kelce, Schwartz, Fisher, etc. getting older but still good.


Ford on the franchise tag and possibly last year in KC.


Veach just has to go hard on getting good additions on the secondary, which might not be easy, and add a good interior Oline.

bowener 11-20-2018 03:15 PM

Does anybody else look over at the Dolphins and wish Albert Wilson were able to play the slot in our current offense? Damn, that would be dirty.

Buckweath 11-20-2018 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 13907039)
Does anybody else look over at the Dolphins and wish Albert Wilson were able to play the slot in our current offense? Damn, that would be dirty.

Lol this offense wouldn't be any better with Wilson.

What could actually help this offense is a better Oline.

Easy 6 11-20-2018 03:24 PM

He played like his hair was on fire

I cant even remember the last Chiefs receiver to go for 200+

RunKC 11-20-2018 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 13907028)
Next year, you have to go all in, like literally.

Hill, Jones, Fuller on contract years and right in their prime and all about to cash in.

Houston, Berry, Kelce, Schwartz, Fisher, etc. getting older but still good.


Ford on the franchise tag and possibly last year in KC.


Veach just has to go hard on getting good additions on the secondary, which might not be easy, and add a good interior Oline.

Those 3 draft picks in the top 2 rounds will be crucial.

TwistedChief 11-20-2018 03:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bowener (Post 13907039)
Does anybody else look over at the Dolphins and wish Albert Wilson were able to play the slot in our current offense? Damn, that would be dirty.

Many things I wish for. Many things I dream about. This is not remotely one of them.

excessive 11-20-2018 03:31 PM

"Tyreek is the Boogeyman striking fear in the oppositions heart"

No, he's who you send to kill the Boogeyman.

Kiimo 11-20-2018 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TomBarndtsTwin (Post 13907014)
Top 5 WR's in NFL:

OBJ, Reek, AB, Julio, Thomas.


You can debate the order.

I don't care who you bounce, but someone has to be bounced for DeAndre Hopkins.

O.city 11-20-2018 03:56 PM

You guys ready to give him OBJ money? Cause that's what it's gonna take.

SAUTO 11-20-2018 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13907140)
You guys ready to give him OBJ money? Cause that's what it's gonna take.

Today.

Pitt Gorilla 11-20-2018 04:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 13906945)
I never thought I'd see a Chiefs receiver go for 200+ yards in a game.

Get ready to back up that Brinks truck, Clark...

Some Chief Fans still don't want him here.

Easy 6 11-20-2018 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13907146)
Today.

This very minute

No one else takes the top off a defense like him, no one

Direckshun 11-20-2018 04:04 PM

I think I'd still take Julio.

SAUTO 11-20-2018 04:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun (Post 13907159)
I think I'd still take Julio.

Jones has 46 TDs in 7.5 years.

Hill has 24 recieving in 2.5

Kiimo 11-20-2018 04:09 PM

Julio is the one I'd bounce for Hopkins, sorry. He's probably going to be the first one to fall off the cliff, too

The Franchise 11-20-2018 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13907140)
You guys ready to give him OBJ money? Cause that's what it's gonna take.

****ing easily. Just get him off of some of those punt returns.

Hog's Gone Fishin 11-20-2018 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13906849)
He's the best WR in football right now.

Prove me wrong.

Julio Jones has 50 more yards in 1 fewer games

http://www.espn.com/nfl/statistics/p...8/seasontype/2

Kiimo 11-20-2018 04:50 PM

And 3 measly touchdowns and might miss the playoffs.

BryanBusby 11-20-2018 05:16 PM

Tyreek gonna get 20/m a year on his next deal

FlaChief58 11-20-2018 05:24 PM

Top 2 or 3 for sure. He's made some bone headed plays though that have cost the team, especially last night. Fix that and he will be considered the best

Imon Yourside 11-20-2018 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 13907307)
Top 2 or 3 for sure. He's made some bone headed plays though that have cost the team, especially last night. Fix that and he will be considered the best

Don't be flashing the peace sign, you're costing us!!!!!!!!

KC Dan 11-20-2018 05:44 PM

It wasn't flashing the peace sign, it was turning around, facing the defended and flashing the peace sign in his face. That's the penalty - taunting. Lame, I know but it was taunting. Just hold the peace sign straight up while running in the end zone without facing the defender.

-King- 11-20-2018 05:50 PM

I think Julio is the best WR but that's only because he's bigger and taller. Basically he's only better because of things Tyreek can't control. But pound for ppound, Tyreek is the best to me. There isn't a flaw to his game.
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FlaChief58 11-20-2018 05:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 13907334)
Don't be flashing the peace sign, you're costing us!!!!!!!!

No, that was Bullshit, but fielding the 2 punts where he did definitely cost us

stevieray 11-20-2018 06:01 PM

His hands and the ability to track a ball are off the charts.

...that sideline catching backing out of bounds was sick.

Imon Yourside 11-20-2018 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Flachief58 (Post 13907363)
No, that was Bullshit, but fielding the 2 punts where he did definitely cost us

Correct on that, really hurt us the last 2 drives. One i believe was actually fielded IN the end zone.

srvy 11-20-2018 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KILLER_CLOWN (Post 13907334)
Don't be flashing the peace sign, you're costing us!!!!!!!!

Did we ever get a explanation on this? He has been doing the peace sign for awhile with no repercussions then boom 15 yards with threat of kicked from game on another conduct penalty.

KC Dan 11-20-2018 06:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by srvy (Post 13907405)
Did we ever get a explanation on this? He has been doing the peace sign for awhile with no repercussions then boom 15 yards with threat of kicked from game on another conduct penalty.

Not really but I know he's done it before running in and even turning sideways doing it. Not sure if he ever faced the defender while backpeddling into the end zone flashing it in their face...Have to see pics or vids to verify

chinaski 11-20-2018 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Dan (Post 13907346)
It wasn't flashing the peace sign, it was turning around, facing the defended and flashing the peace sign in his face. That's the penalty - taunting. Lame, I know but it was taunting. Just hold the peace sign straight up while running in the end zone without facing the defender.

Yeah it is lame. It's not like he is giving the guy the finger or something.

KC Dan 11-20-2018 06:18 PM

If you look at Clay's pics from the chargers game, he flashes the sign but straight ahead. Different for sure than last night

dlphg9 11-20-2018 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC Dan (Post 13907415)
If you look at Clay's pics from the chargers game, he flashes the sign but straight ahead. Different for sure than last night

It literally took me 1 minute to find him throwing up the peace sign as he turns and does it directly at the defender. Only difference is that time he doesn't get a penalty. It was last year against the Pats.

KC Dan 11-20-2018 06:48 PM

As I said, lame call

TinyEvel 11-20-2018 06:53 PM

well he scored me 48 points in FFL last night so, YES!

WhiteWhale 11-20-2018 07:06 PM

Yeah.

I said before the year he'd have 1600+ yards and 12+ TD's. He's at what? 1100 and 11?

Hill was better last year than he produced statistically. His combination of speed, explosiveness, COD ability, and ball tracking ability are not things I've ever seen from ONE player. He's uniquely gifted at all of these things.
It's really the other worldly speed that puts it over the top. There's fast. There's fast guys who make fast guys look slow. Then there's Tyreek Hill. That he can reach full speed from a stop in like 2 steps and also change directions at near full speed only make it more ridiculous.

dj56dt58 11-20-2018 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla (Post 13907149)
Some Chief Fans still don't want him here.

I dont know of any..He can't slap a bitch every day of his life for all I care at this point

Shaid 11-20-2018 07:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WhiteWhale (Post 13907480)
Yeah.

I said before the year he'd have 1600+ yards and 12+ TD's. He's at what? 1100 and 11?

Hill was better last year than he produced statistically. His combination of speed, explosiveness, COD ability, and ball tracking ability are not things I've ever seen from ONE player. He's uniquely gifted at all of these things.
It's really the other worldly speed that puts it over the top. There's fast. There's fast guys who make fast guys look slow. Then there's Tyreek Hill. That he can reach full speed from a stop in like 2 steps and also change directions at near full speed only make it more ridiculous.

Yep, the only thing he doesn't have is height but his ungodly ability to create separation and to high point a ball in coverage when it's necessary more than makes up for it.

CupidStunt 11-20-2018 07:22 PM

He is a shorter, faster Randy Moss. And by that I'm basically comparing the dominance factor. No one in the league could cover Moss, and no one can cover Tyreek. As good as Owens and Harrison were and OBJ and Nuk are, Moss and Hill are two completely different freaks to their peers. Teams have taken OBJ out of the game. Teams routinely take Julio out in red zone defense. Teams categorically cannot stop Hill, he is just literally too fast. Zone? Man? Short, deep? Nothing.

Skyy God 11-20-2018 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 13907357)
I think Julio is the best WR but that's only because he's bigger and taller. Basically he's only better because of things Tyreek can't control. But pound for ppound, Tyreek is the best to me. There isn't a flaw to his game.
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1) Julio doesn’t catch TDs and

2) He’s physically on the decline.

Kiimo 11-20-2018 07:41 PM

I'd like to take this moment to think back on Hill's first training camp when I saw him make a cut and completely burn a defender and I came on here saying his comp is Antonio Brown and I got roasted on here.


You were right, he's much faster than Brown.

Imon Yourside 11-20-2018 07:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kiimosabi (Post 13907532)
I'd like to take this moment to think back on Hill's first training camp when I saw him make a cut and completely burn a defender and I came on here saying his comp is Antonio Brown and I got roasted on here.


You were right, he's much faster than Brown.

Ya that was a bad take, Brown is a bitch too.

-King- 11-20-2018 07:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 13907520)
1) Julio doesn’t catch TDs and

2) He’s physically on the decline.

Teams double triple team him in the red zone. And hes leading the league in yards. That's decline?

Either way,you can't go wrong. Like I said, the only reason Julio is better is just something Tyreek can't control, his height. That just shows how great Tyreek is at everything else.
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smithandrew051 11-20-2018 08:21 PM

Here’s a hot take.

Tyreek Hill belongs on the All-Time NFL 53 man roster.

If he still returned kicks and teams would consistently punt to him, he would be the greatest return man of all time.

Additionally, he’s turned into a lethal wide receiver. He can even be used as a running back at times to add another dimension.

When assembling the all-time 53 man roster, Tyreek deserves a spot.

CupidStunt 11-20-2018 08:35 PM

100%. He is one of the 5 most unique players in NFL history, I think. He is just straight-up the fastest player I've ever seen on a football field -- from 0 to let's say 30-40-50 yards, where it really matters (there's no such thing as needing 90-yard speed, which some long-strider can maybe beat him out on... maybe).

Hill, Vick, Bo Jackson, maybe Bob Hayes? Deion. Jim Brown, I guess. Not sure where Moss or Calvin fit in that description - kind of an oxymoron. Then you've got guys like Mario Williams and Vernon Davis but that's more about being an athlete than a football player; Hill has clearly proven his actual football skill. Not that those guys were scrubs.

YontsRBake 11-20-2018 08:39 PM

Hill, Thelien, and Thomas are definitely the top 3. Idk what order tho.

srvy 11-20-2018 08:43 PM

I personally saw the worlds fastest human Bob Hayes. Hank Stram drafted olympic 100 yard sprinter Robert Hines who also was a world record holder seen him to he had no hands lol.

Tyreek looks faster than I remember them. It his quickness just incredible. When I see him interviewed all his actions and expressions are even quick and fast.

RunKC 11-20-2018 08:44 PM

Welp this is starting point for his extention. Probably gonna get 5% more than this:

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chiefzilla1501 11-20-2018 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by YontsRBake (Post 13907621)
Hill, Thelien, and Thomas are definitely the top 3. Idk what order tho.

I'd add in DeAndre Hopkins. Forgot about Michael Thomas - the dude is having a historical year when it comes to catch %'s.

Again, it's so hard to rate what receiver's better than the other. Thomas catches every damn thing his way. Hopkins is outrageously athletic at getting to the ball. Tyreek is unguardable speed wise. Depends on your offense and your QB. Thomas is a really really great guy for Brees while Tyreek is a really really great guy for Mahomes.

T-post Tom 11-20-2018 09:13 PM

Hill is even better when Watkins is on the field. Bye week and the Faiders after that gives him a great opportunity to get healthy. We will need him healthy & on the field in the playoffs.

JakeF 11-20-2018 09:16 PM

Hill was dominating against the Rams. Total stud.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-20-2018 09:19 PM

Thomas is a product of Brees. Hill is a once in a lifetime talent

chiefzilla1501 11-20-2018 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball (Post 13907662)
Thomas is a product of Brees. Hill is a once in a lifetime talent

Thomas has caught 90% of his passes. Since it's been tracked, the next closest is John Taylor at 82%. Thats destroying a record. It's possible for tyreek and Thomas to both be elite talents without sounding like a total homer. He's literally having a historic season.

Pasta Little Brioni 11-20-2018 09:49 PM

They dink and dunk like no other especially in that dome. Nothing like what Reek is doing downfield.

CupidStunt 11-21-2018 07:36 AM

Thomas is a very good WR, but he's much closer to a Torry Holt than Randy Moss. No shame in that, some idiots would even tell you Holt is better (LOL), but yeah, there's a very clear difference between MT and Hill. Our offense would not be what it is with MT, while the Saints with Hill... there are no words. Brees practically said it himself.

kccrow 11-21-2018 08:19 AM

He's on pace to have a top-20 all-time season in terms of Yards and top-10 for TDs. If he replicates last night at least once more, he could have a top-10 all-time in yards in a season.

PutQuinnIn 11-21-2018 08:46 AM

Pay the man!

WhiteWhale 11-21-2018 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shaid (Post 13907495)
Yep, the only thing he doesn't have is height but his ungodly ability to create separation and to high point a ball in coverage when it's necessary more than makes up for it.

Covering him at 5-10 (allegedly) is unfair enough.

Plus If he was taller there is no way he could maintain his COD and explosion. There's a reason you rarely see corners taller than 6 feet, and it's because taller guys generally can't turn or change directions as quickly.

If he's six foot four, he's a different player. I'm happy with what he is. In the modern NFL where physicality and size are less valuable than they used to be (because of rules limiting physicality) Hill's talents are especially valuable. 15 years ago you could grab a guy like Hill. Rough him up more at the LOS. You just can't do that anymore. Guys have to try and run with him and nobody can do it.


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