WTF is with the defense?
 

That's 2 games in a row they really didn't do a ****ing thing. Carr had all ****ing night to throw. Guys are dropping shoulders and not wrapping up. YAC is killing us. Receivers are running wide open.

I will give them some credit in that I thought they stopped the run fairly well against the Raiders.

No pass rush
No tackling
No attitude

WTF?

#PeteThread

I want to know who Chris Jones was pissed off at on the sideline.

No. WTF is with the defense?

They just had a bad day.

Just like your wife on date night.

Won't sniff the playoffs...

They need to play better, but the Raiders simply aren’t a good matchup for them.

Dl got absolutely ****ing bullied in both games. We can shit on the secondary all we want but when Carr is COMPLETELY untouched for several seconds on every play he's going to make completions easily.

Clark is really starting to piss me off; Jones can be inconsistent but he has dominant games. Clark has rarely done that since coming here. Inb4 everyone shits on me but it's the ****ing truth.

Looked like Sneed

This makes the Colts even scarier if a good oline can shut us down

Raiders O line is the real deal.
Secondary looked lost at times.
To much hand tackling.

Will the Colts be allowed to hold all game?

Lol not to give the defense a pass, but every time we play the Raiders their OL holds the entire game and it’s never called. What a joke.

After this thread I think we can expect them to be dominant the rest of the way!

DL isn’t smart. They , I’m assuming don’t play assignments , get dominated.

I’m not sure if that’s because of them freelancing , or just getting straight up beat,
It the DL shit

And tackling is a close second.

Yep. The Raiders have been built to try and take on the Chiefs. They're as bad a matchup as there is in the league.

And credit Carr. The dude has kind of balled out against us.

They missed a bunch of false starts and an obvious grounding too.

They were letting things go until the end when they rained flags all over us. Seriously pissed me the **** off. Either bury the whistles or call it by the book, don't skirt the line.

They definitely got away with a lot tonight but we had 0 pressure and our tackling was for shit. The last 2 games have looked very Sutton like.

Lots of dumbasses on here will continue to defend $25 million a year Clark no matter what. Apparently you're not expected to get pressure unless you're going up against a cupcake. OTs have repeatedly embarrassed Clark all year.

Is it just my imagination or is Sorenson becoming a liability?

Like yeah, he got that cupcake INT to end the game, but I swear I keep seeing this guy getting beat in coverage against TE's, and lately he hasn't been wrapping up either. I love the guy and his attitude, but lately I keep finding him on the wrong side of a bad beat.

Raiders have had the benefit of being bottom feeders in the draft. They have talent.

They played the same way around this time last year.

It's a bad matchup, also they've had several periods of sleep walking this year. Complacency is an issue, this team is just ready to get to the playoffs.

From your extremely kind and trivia dominant lips to Spags' ears

The false start should have been called but how the **** do you you not even talk about calling the grounding?????

The Raiders have a good offense. It's time for people to stop thinking this is the same old Raiders team, it's not.

This team needs to add another edge rusher BAD. Like with their 1st round pick bad.

Time to face the facts: Kolton Miller shut down Frank Clark again, Rodney Hudson and Gabe Jackson shut down Chris Jones again and Tyrann Matheiu got raped again.

Stop making excuses. Our best highest paid players got raped again

Anyone who wants to face the Raiders in the playoffs is crazy. Their offense just has their way with our D.

the grounding was extremely obvious too. like it wasn't even close. there's no excuse for that one and I expect Andy to give the league a mouthful this week in private.

FIRE THE TACKLING COACH

If there wasn't an offensive holding call...it will be the Raiders 4th game in a row without one.

That will make any OL look all-world...all day to pass and never behind the sticks.

Was Whitens false start the only offensive penalty...with less than 2 minutes....is so...it was their first call of any kind in almost 3 entire games.

:facepalm:

Literally said “I’m not giving the defense a pass” in the post you quoted, but the fact is anybody with a pair of eyes could see countless missed holds in both games.

I also said they need to play better earlier in the thread.

So give me a ****ing break.

PM Black Op

It's easy to ball out on a team when when you're never touched. ****, he never even felt rushed.

Raiders offense is just really good and they know how to play us.

I noticed this in the Carolina game and now this game where the opposing offense is really taking their time snapping the ball. Besides the obvious of trying to use as much clock to keep Mahomes off the field I am wondering if we are tipping something on defense.

They barely held like any other team. They don’t get any passes or excuses.

The only notable play any of these 3 made I either game was the Chris Jones forced fumble and that didn’t even count bc he was offsides.

They didn’t just get beat. They got embarrassed.

****ing chicken shit.

We’ll curb stomp them when/if we see them in the playoffs.

It’s time to give Suggs a ring

I was just sitting here thinking about how much Carr has improved. Kudos to him.

Go suck some Steelers dick then pillowbiter.

My favorite was how Breeland got a PI on a caught ball for touching a dude...yet on that same play on the blitz dude was grabbed from behind to no call..it was baffling.

Raiders are a top 5 offense.

ROFL

What about the block in the back that wasn’t called?

And the intentional grounding?

Sure RunKC, we can’t possibly say the Chiefs defense played like shit AND the refs allowed the Raiders offense to get away with murder...

Tonight was huge because the way this D is playing we got another 2-3 losses coming.

Bucs
Saints(?)
Chargers(?)

I think we can hang with the Dolphins but Brady, Brees and Herbert are lighting shit up and all 3 teams have good defenses with the Saints being the least of the 3. The Bucs will absolutely rape us if we don't keep it close.

Maybe it's confirmation bias but I swear the Chiefs are a lot worse at tackling than most teams and have been for years.

We beat them without

Schwartz
Watkins
Hardman minimized
Pringle hurt
Taco hurt
Okafor hurt

This team is going to be something else once we’re at full strength

I had no issues whatsoever with the officiating tonight. Seemed very fair and balanced.

Definitely don't do that

Won't sniff the playoffs

They looked good......enough.

It starts with 95, 55, and 32. The rest of the players follow the leaders. If your stars are playing poor, the others will do likewise.

Who else is a game changer on this defense besides those players?

As to what's wrong with those three, that's a fair question. I think Mathieu has played well for the most part this season. He looked bad tonight at tackling. Chris Jones has been mediocre all year. Frank Clark has been invisible. I don't know if it's injuries but he looks overwhelmed most of the time by opposing tackles.

This defense stepped up in the second half last season. Let's hope they do the same this year. Also, let's not forget the limitation of talent on this side of the ball. Most of these players are lucky to be starting. They're never going to be dominant on defense with this group. Average is what we're asking for.

:facepalm:

Butt****ing moron.

lil Chiefy gets big mad when anyone says something critical about any Chief who has ever existed LMAO

I think people should understand something. The Raiders have a ton of speed, a huge line and they run a bit of an old school offense. It throws the Chiefs off that they basically play base Nickel and the Raiders give you a FB, it's just a style you don't see much.

We won go away pillowbiter

It needs fixing

I’ve been critical of the Chiefs defense in this thread more than once dumbass.

I feel like HB looked bad tackling tonight because he was matched up against Waller so much and that's just an unfair matchup for him in the open field. no one should really expect him to be able to tackle Waller 1 on 1. The guy is the 3rd best TE in the league and is similar in YAC ability to Kelce.

The DL deserves all the shit. We may as well have been playing 7 on 7 tonight.

Robinson's facemask penalty was some REAL ****ing dogshit, too.

Know what I call that? A goddamn stiff arm. That's what every ****ing stiff arm does. It makes contact with the defender's goddamn face.

Either stiff arming is allowed or it's not allowed, in my opinion. If it is, but the offensive player just can't make contact with the defender's facemask, then I should see that facemask flag getting thrown WAAAAAAY more often than it does.

Seriously. When's the last time you saw a facemask penalty called on the offense?

NFL needs to clarify those rules.

No we won’t. This is exactly what people were saying before this game.

Beats whining like a ****ing baby every time they win a close game.

The Raiders just don't suck. I hate to admit it, but I hope we don't play those ****ers again. They know how to play the Chiefs. This is going to be a tough matchup every year. As it should be. **** the Faid! GO CHIEFS!

You're not allowed to be critical.

You have to ****ing whine and cry like a spoiled toddler in order for it to be real criticism.

Not disagreeing with you at all there. The Chiefs are going to have to consider upgrading their talent level to replace Sorensen and some athletic linebackers (outside of Gay) to counter that threat.

Sorenson was just BAD today.

Officiating was fine tonight but folks get in their feelings and make those excuses when defending highly paid defenders sucking absolute asshole 2 games in a row

The only thing Brees is lighting up right now is medical equipment.

I think it's just a case of a team having our number. Pretty good O Line some speed on the outside a play making TE and one of the best backs in the league.

Not many teams in the league have all of that tho

Dude, Breeze and Kammara will have a field day on this D
We already had to go to OT to beat Herbert
Brady is not so much a threat but you give him a lead with their D and it's game over

Clark, Mathieu, Jones - lead. Enough talk from these guys.
Mathieu doesn’t tackle, Clark runs himself out of pressures and Jones cheats the scheme. And it is not just one-offs. The linebacker corps is talent deficient, and the secondary is inconsistent as hell, especially in zone coverage. I’m not sure what it’s going to take to light a fire under these guys. Maybe Reid should label them as second fiddle to the offense on this team, because it’s obvious that’s what they are.

Huh? Robinson clearly hooked the facemask with his finger. It has nothing to do with him making contact with it. You just can't grab onto it like he did

Exactly.

Spagnuolo was hired to beat Tom Brady and the Patriots, not the Las Vegas Raiders.

I’m sure we’ll see some scheme wrinkles installed in the offseason.

They were saying he would be back by the time they play us. So I am saying he will play until he doesn't.

0/2

Good effort

Even without a pre-season special teams is far more troubling

Or just quit making excuses about the opponent getting away with holding and accept that our best defenders got raped all night.

Why is that so hard to admit? Chris Jones was getting raped so bad he threw a tantrum on the sideline.

This is the Pete reverse karma thread we’ve been waiting for.

SB bound, baby!!

Brees might not even be healthy by the time we play them, and unlike Carr, he can’t throw the football beyond 10-15 yards. It’s a completely different team and matchup. This defense doesn’t suck every ****ing week. Give me a break.