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staylor26 02-21-2024 11:20 PM

Potential 2nd round targets
 
WR:

Xavier Legette, South Carolina
Jermaine Burton, Alabama
Ja'Lynn Polk, Washington
Roman Wilson, Michigan
Ricky Pearsall, Florida
Jalen McMillan, Washington

OT

Patrick Paul, Houston
Kiran Amegadije, Yale

DL:

Ruke Orhorhoro, Clemson
Braden Fiske, Florida St.
Michael Hall Jr.,Ohio St.
Brandon Dorlus, Oregon (DT/DE)

RB:

Jonathon Brooks, Texas

CB:

TJ Tampa, Iowa State
Max Melton, Rutgers

Couch-Potato 02-22-2024 12:34 AM

Why TJ Tampa? At first glance I'm curious why you included him and not several other CBs in that range? I've not looked at any DBs tape at all this year so genuinely asking.

kccrow 02-22-2024 02:24 AM

My list would differ a bit... would add

Malachi Corley, WR, Western Kentucky
Caelen Carson, CB, Wake Forest

I think at least one of these 3 will drop, and hell maybe all of them will be there:
Cedric Gray, LB, North Carolina
Edgerrin Cooper, LB, Texas A&M
Junior Colson, LB, Michigan

Probably would not have Burton or Fiske on it in the 2nd.

I haven't yet reached my conclusion on Javon Foster because I think if you improve his footwork he might have the athleticism to play LT. That's my major hangup from saying yeah, throw him in there in the 2nd or nah, put him as a 3rd round OG convert.

O.city 02-22-2024 08:23 AM

Roman Wilson or Pearsall in the 2nd is a bit early but that's probably where the Chiefs would have to take them

staylor26 02-22-2024 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17413158)
Why TJ Tampa? At first glance I'm curious why you included him and not several other CBs in that range? I've not looked at any DBs tape at all this year so genuinely asking.

Because like Brooks at RB, it's not a position that I see the Chiefs taking early barring a particular player falling into their lap and being too good to pass up.

staylor26 02-22-2024 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17413273)
Roman Wilson or Pearsall in the 2nd is a bit early but that's probably where the Chiefs would have to take them

Don't think it's early at all. It's right around where they both should go.

staylor26 02-22-2024 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17413182)
My list would differ a bit... would add

Malachi Corley, WR, Western Kentucky
Caelen Carson, CB, Wake Forest

I think at least one of these 3 will drop, and hell maybe all of them will be there:
Cedric Gray, LB, North Carolina
Edgerrin Cooper, LB, Texas A&M
Junior Colson, LB, Michigan

Probably would not have Burton or Fiske on it in the 2nd.

I haven't yet reached my conclusion on Javon Foster because I think if you improve his footwork he might have the athleticism to play LT. That's my major hangup from saying yeah, throw him in there in the 2nd or nah, put him as a 3rd round OG convert.

Haven't watched any of the LBs, so I'm sure I will add one or two after I do.

O.city 02-22-2024 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17413449)
Don't think it's early at all. It's right around where they both should go.

With this class, I'd rather take them in the 3rd, but that just won't happen right?

staylor26 02-22-2024 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17413455)
With this class, I'd rather take them in the 3rd, but that just won't happen right?

Highly unlikely they make it out of the top 10 picks in the 3rd IMO.

The Franchise 02-22-2024 10:15 AM

Roman Wilson is my 2nd round pick if they go DT or OT in the first.

O.city 02-22-2024 10:18 AM

Yeah, an ideal draft for me is one of the OT's falling to 32 and Wilson in the 2nd, with a LB/DT in the 3rd.

DJ's left nut 02-22-2024 11:13 AM

Yeah - I might as well just own it now. Jalen McMillan is going to be my 2024 version of Rashee Rice.

"I don't even care who we take in the 1st at this point - I just really want McMillan in the 2nd..."

I friggen love this kid as a complement to Rice. Those two as a matched set going forward would be spectacular here. And there are some very similar guys to McMillan that are also possibilities (Wilson and Pearsall being the two that I think of off the top of my head) but McMillan is my favorite of them.

Can we please get McMillan in the 2nd and McCaffrey in the 5th? Is that asking too much?

Mecca 02-22-2024 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17413460)
Roman Wilson is my 2nd round pick if they go DT or OT in the first.

I love how people fellate Jim Harbaugh..yet now we have draft projections of all these Michigan offensive players going high in the draft...JJ McCarthy top 15 uh what?

Yet that offense was kinda shitty so someone explain that one.

Couch-Potato 02-22-2024 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17413182)
My list would differ a bit... would add

Malachi Corley, WR, Western Kentucky
Caelen Carson, CB, Wake Forest

I think at least one of these 3 will drop, and hell maybe all of them will be there:
Cedric Gray, LB, North Carolina
Edgerrin Cooper, LB, Texas A&M
Junior Colson, LB, Michigan

Probably would not have Burton or Fiske on it in the 2nd.

I haven't yet reached my conclusion on Javon Foster because I think if you improve his footwork he might have the athleticism to play LT. That's my major hangup from saying yeah, throw him in there in the 2nd or nah, put him as a 3rd round OG convert.

Jr Colson would be a great pick up, but I think the 2nd is too high for new LB for this roster.

O.city 02-25-2024 08:23 AM

Been reading some stuff on Austin Booker. D end from KU

Supposedly will test crazy at the combine and has good tape. Could be another under the radar 2nd round pick

jjchieffan 02-25-2024 08:56 AM

For those of you liking Pearsall in the second, this is from Arrowhead Addict's mock draft. FYI for those who said OT in the first, they also took BYU OT Suamitaia in the first

A Senior Bowl standout, Ricky Pearsall is quickly rising up draft boards. He spent his first 3 seasons at Arizona before transferring to Florida this year where he had his best season yet. A complete route runner and separator, Pearsall is know as "slicky Ricky" by teammates for his knack to get open. He has above average straight line speed and excellent hands. At 6'0", 190 lbs., he's not winning most contested catch situations, but that's not his profile.


The Chiefs are likely not a single WR away from being an elite offense but Pearsall makes it much easier to see. Andy Reid offenses have always utilized average sized WR who create space and that's what Pearsall does. He makes a nice intermediate target for Patrick Mahomes who can beat man coverage.

Couch-Potato 02-25-2024 11:46 AM

If not Franklin in the 1st, I'm on board with going DL or OT in the 1st and WR in the 2nd.

Personally, I'm a Legette fan.

Chiefnj2 02-25-2024 01:01 PM

Is lack of top end speed the only reason Pearsall doesn’t have a first round grade?

DJ's left nut 02-26-2024 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 17416976)
Is lack of top end speed the only reason Pearsall doesn’t have a first round grade?

Everything is relative. I think you're being generous to say he's even one of the top 6 receivers in this class. He's fringe at the top 10.

I mean if you're not a top 5 guy in your position group, you're probably not getting a 1st round grade. You may still go in the 1st due to positional need and/or the depth of the class but that isn't going to get you the 'grade' into the 1st.

He's a fine prospect he's just not as good as several other guys, IMO.

kccrow 02-26-2024 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17413714)
Jr Colson would be a great pick up, but I think the 2nd is too high for new LB for this roster.

Depends on how you view it and what happens in FA. It reads like we're not re-signing Gay and we'll see if we get Tranquill back. If not either, then what? Also, Bolton is a FA in 2025, and if he ends up deserving a bag then I think I'm letting him walk. I'm keeping my mind open on it, at least for now.

kccrow 02-26-2024 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 17416976)
Is lack of top end speed the only reason Pearsall doesn’t have a first round grade?

Alot of parallels between Van Jefferson and Ricky Pearsall if you look at size, speed, production, transfers, etc. The difference between the two is that Pearsall may end up being smarter (Van only had a 12 on his Wonderlic iirc). Jefferson went at 57.

Couch-Potato 02-26-2024 09:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17413127)
DL:

Ruke Orhorhoro, Clemson
Kris Jenkins, Michigan
Braden Fiske, Florida St.
Michael Hall Jr.,Ohio St.
Brandon Dorlus, Oregon (DT/DE)

Who's your preference here?

staylor26 02-26-2024 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17418607)
Who's your preference here?

Ruke.

ChiefsFanatic 02-27-2024 12:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17418610)
Ruke.

I like Ruke a lot, but I am very intrigued by the potential of Kris Jenkins. He certainly has the pedigree, and lately siblings and offspring of NFL players have been hitting more often than not. Also, he seems like an athletic freak.

But, I think they would both be great picks.

I know he isn't a DT, and will be gone before our second pick (and maybe our first pick) but I bet Spags could do a lot with Darius Robinson. He is really versatile.

Couch-Potato 02-27-2024 05:40 PM

2nd round chatter should probably be heating up right now considering Chief's declared they're open to a tag and trade for Sneed...

Titty Meat 02-27-2024 09:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17413562)
Yeah - I might as well just own it now. Jalen McMillan is going to be my 2024 version of Rashee Rice.

"I don't even care who we take in the 1st at this point - I just really want McMillan in the 2nd..."

I friggen love this kid as a complement to Rice. Those two as a matched set going forward would be spectacular here. And there are some very similar guys to McMillan that are also possibilities (Wilson and Pearsall being the two that I think of off the top of my head) but McMillan is my favorite of them.

Can we please get McMillan in the 2nd and McCaffrey in the 5th? Is that asking too much?

Good to see you on the McCaffery bandwagon. I knew that kid had special talent when I saw him at the spring game his freshmen year. I'm convinced if he didn't lie to himself thinking he could play QB wasting most of his college career he could possibly be a 1st-2nd pick. I don't know if he has as much talent as his brother but there's a lot of ****ing talent there and a lot of it hasn't been tapped yet

VAChief 02-28-2024 11:04 AM

Any thoughts on the freak athletic OT from BYU Kingsley S.? Especially if we can get a lower 2nd than what we have in a Sneed deal.

Seems like he has incredible upside. Maybe get a FA OT as insurance.

ChiefsFanatic 02-28-2024 07:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VAChief (Post 17421044)
Any thoughts on the freak athletic OT from BYU Kingsley S.? Especially if we can get a lower 2nd than what we have in a Sneed deal.

Seems like he has incredible upside. Maybe get a FA OT as insurance.

After the combine, Kingsley Suamataia is probably going to jump into the late 1st round.

After watching him, and reading about him from lots of different places, I think he is probably going to have some eye popping numbers. A couple of different articles I read said that he could have a Tristan Wirfs type of workout at the combine.

Couch-Potato 02-29-2024 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 17421981)
After the combine, Kingsley Suamataia is probably going to jump into the late 1st round.

After watching him, and reading about him from lots of different places, I think he is probably going to have some eye popping numbers. A couple of different articles I read said that he could have a Tristan Wirfs type of workout at the combine.

An OT in the 1st, x2 WRs and a CB in the 2nd & 3rd is a pretty sexy draft plan.

ChiefsFanatic 02-29-2024 06:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17422266)
An OT in the 1st, x2 WRs and a CB in the 2nd & 3rd is a pretty sexy draft plan.

I want multiple new receivers, and for training camp to start the week after the draft.

If we can't get one of top tackles in the first, there are a couple of guys I think we could get in the 3rd thru 5th round that would be great pickups.

Javon Foster from MU, or LaDarius Henderson from Michigan both have a ton of potential. I would love to get either of those guys. Christian Jones might be a decent late round pick.


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