Cuts from other teams we might take a look at.
 

CB Kayvon Webster
CB Corn Elder
CB Lorenzo Doss
TE Luke Wilson
Logan Paulson
LB Hayes Pullard
LB Eli Harold
G Christian Westerman

Westerman got cut? That's hilarious. The guy left camp and retired, and the Bengals chased him down and talked him into coming back.

I'd be interested in Luke Wilson.

How about LB Brandon Marshall? Would he fit our scheme? Would he be able to outperform any of the guys that we already have?

I'm sure that Andy Reid is monitoring these threads for ideas on who to sign.

I think Veach will be looking for an OT type.

That list is trash and nothing on it is an upgrade except maybe a CB for 4 games

Corn?

Corn got canned?

Bruh Kelce abused him all game

he does that a lot

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bills?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bills</a> are releasing veteran CB Captain Munnerlyn, source said. Was brought in as a familiar face in Sean McDermott’s defense.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1167780797052522497?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

What's a Captain Munnerlyn?

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Source: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Bengals?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Bengals</a> are waiving LB Malik Jefferson, a third-round draft pick last year. Big changes under new coach Zac Taylor and DC Lou Anarumo.</p>&mdash; Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero/status/1167789970389635073?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Malik Jefferson was a runkc favorite and he just got cut from Cinci

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Surprise cut: Bills are releasing LeSean McCoy, per source.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1167793328072613888?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>



Not sure why this is a surprise, but I've seen the Chiefs mentioned - which WOULD be a surprise.

LeSean McCoy released.

Better than Darrell?

This was Veach’s all-time draft crush outside of Pat, and one of Reid’s best players.

Yes to shady

I haven't watched him much lately but 31 years old and avg 3.2 yards per carry last year. Does he have anything left?

He got creamed in practice.

Then canned.

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It seemed he lacked pop.

Call me crazy, but I love the idea. LeSean is terrific in pass pro. He'd be an elite 3rd down option even at his age. Of course, assuming the price fits that role.

Problem is Darrell plays a lot of special teams and I doubt McCoy would be asked to

They could just go 4 RBs seeing as I think they were going to give Tremon a spot.

True

But then you’ve got Sherman too and 5 is a tough sell but could probably keep 2 tight ends?

Luke Wilson would be a nice TE option

Remember, he was in Buffalo, where no RB can succeed behind that line.

Kayvon Webster got cut from the Saints - maybe he's replacing Mark Fields?

Surprised Raiders cut WR Keelan Doss.

Are we sold on Moore at backup QB? Patriots released House, Donks released Hogan. Hogan was drafted by Reid, so he would have familiarity with the playbook and he has starting experience. I don't know if either of them would win a game for us if Mahomes got hurt, but I have no faith in a guy who has been out of football for a season.

LeSean McCoy is 100% GARBAGE now, definitely pass on that

Jets cut Jachai Polite

That's a strange one.

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Wow, wtf. What a fall. Dude was great at Florida last year.

Pats dumped Hoyer... any better than Moore?

That guy has no brain. It would be like trying to coach up a potato.

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I am not sure what else a guy could do to make a roster?

Pretty surprised here.

Hoyer needs to pursue a career in show biz.

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Heard on the radio that the Bears are likely to cut Bray.

Cowboys cut a couple cbs that can play

Jets cut Jachai Polite

Yeah, reading between the lines of his story from the combine on, he seems to be a low-effort, bad attitude kind of dude.

Cowboys waived CB Michael Jackson.

Jackson was taken in the fifth round of this year's draft but evidently didn't impress many in the organization this summer. Jackson has good size at 6'2/210 and blew up the Combine with insane measurables, including a 40.5-inch vertical and 10-foot-10 broad jump.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">LeSean McCoy</p>&mdash; The Gunslingiest (@RedMamba707) <a href="https://twitter.com/RedMamba707/status/1167889999976468482?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 31, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Seems like it ...

I may have been a bit harsh ... he may have a brain. However, he may be one of those guys without a deep and sincere appreciation for his God-given physical gifts and subsequent opportunities.

I don't know which is worse.

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Demariyus Thomas cut by NE

Heard he looked good when he got some action.

Not this fraud again

He did. I looked at some D. Thomas highlights from last season a few days ago and he looked pretty good. Still has pretty good top gear, and of course his size and hands are still top tier.

I'm a little surprised they cut him. Either he's injured, lost another step, or they don't want to pay him.

Dakota Allen, LB, Rams. The kid is a player..

We could also sign Ronald Ollie whom the Raiders cut and have a Last Chance U All Star Team.

Wow. He had ridiculous character concerns coming out of college and had some awful in-person interviews, but he was widely viewed as a first rounder on the basis of talent. Must be a real headcase.

If the Texans cut Jerell Adams I’d be interested in him as a 3rd TE.

Baltimore cut Zach Sieler. Would kick the tires at DT.

Eagles released TE Alex Ellis.

There was not one cb worth a shit cut anywhere

Yep. That right there tells you we are going to have to give up value for any quality at that position.

OT depth still sucks
LG is weak

Having Sorenson start would blow
Breeland looked rough in the PS, Fuller needs to stay inside at the slot
Rather not have Ragland or Niemann start

We still have several positions we could upgrade.

Relax dude. So we don't have a Pro-Bowl player at every position. It is what it is. We will be okay.

Ragland played nearly the entire game at the Packers. Three LB's did not take a snap. Lee, Wilson, and Hitchens. They are probably your starters. Which one comes off in the nickle? :shrug: Could be Hitchens.

If we have 5 DB's in the game early in the season, it could be Thornhill, HB (who played 4 snaps in PS), Sorensen, Breeland(who didn't look all that bad), and Fuller on the field. Claiborne didn't look bad either.

We will be okay.

People have a hard time with the idea that you don't need a defense that can keep teams at 15 points/game if you're scoring 30. Much as you might dream about it, the salary cap says it's not real probable.

I'm total relax dude, ya know.

So chill :Pimp:


Jeez, just because someone lists our needs doesn't mean they are freaking out about it. :shake:

I guess. Geez, you would think we need to have the 85 Bears, or the Baltimore Ravens defense when Trent Dilfer was QB to have a chance this year.

Dude, you are posting we need upgrades in every single thread out there. I don't think you are relaxed at all about our team.

Some people have a hard time with the concept of discussing a team's needs logically without the need to freak out. Every team has needs and Veach should be trying to address as many of ours as he can.

I haven't posted in every thread so you're wrong.

Since this is the time when you discuss cutting/signing players that's usually what people talk about. If you don't want to discuss possible signings and needs then put your pom-poms down and untwist your panties for a few days until the cut and sign days are over.

Specifically, which players are you suggesting we sign or cut?

You mentioned FOUR defensive starters as players you think the Chiefs should upgrade in one post and you think you think we're the ones not being logical? Okay, then. LMAO

I didn't suggest anyone. I listed 3 or 4 needs i thought Veach would be looking to address. Apparently my shortlist bruised a couple of vaginas around here so i explained my position.

Which part don't you agree with?

OT depth is questionable
Left guard is weak
Ragland and Niemann aren't quality starters
Fuller is better in the slot
Breeland has looked poor this preseason

The part where this is news to anyone, and the part where you suggest which players, ones cut from other teams, to replace them with.

All true or mostly true but really the only real concern is the CB position. The rest won't prevent this team from getting to the SB.

So, finally went through the list of cuts. Not much jumped out at me on the list of cuts as guys that you think you have to go out and get, but here's my list.
DL Willie Henry (BAL) - Vet, young, can bring some pass rush. Definitely better than Ivie.
DL Zach Sieler (BAL) - Not sure what happened between last year and this year but there were talks about his development and becoming a future starter, then he got cut. Has Watt like measurables and I'm betting he get's stashed on their PS. Would poach.
LB Malik Jefferson (CIN) - Not a guy I'd sign to the 53, but if he was available to sign to the PS I'd give it some thought. If you can turn that athleticism into something on the field, it's a worthwhile project.
CB Jordan Brown (CIN) - Seemed solid for a 7th round rookie, but didn't make the cut. Will be a PS guy for them if he clears.
S Andrew Adams (DET) - I think he's a better player than Jordan Lucas by a wide margin. A bit surprising he was cut.
CB Briean Boddy-Calhoun (HOU) - Veteran slot guy but maybe whatever happened between 2017 and now isn't correctable?
ER Brandon Copeland (NYJ) - Looked good when he became a starter in 2018. Got popped for PEDs and got a 4 game suspension, then the Jets cut him. Seems silly for a team that lacks much on the edge. He's not the longest guy for a 4-3 but he's big enough.
TE Dwayne Allen (MIA), TE Eric Tomlinson (NYJ), TE Luke Willson (OAK), TE Will Tye (PHI) - Just grouping these guys together as a bunch of veteran TEs that have varying degrees of worth but almost certainly look better than what I've seen behind Kelce
WR Keelan Doss (OAK) - Not sure why the Raiders let this kid walk, but I'd be going out and signing him and letting DAT walk. 6'3" 215, runs a 4.45, was a stat monster at Cal and then shines in preseason. I think a team is going to make Oakland sorry they cut this kid.
CB Quinten Rollins (SF) - Solid but unspectactular CB that is a vet. Can play some safety. I like him bettter than Claiborne but I doubt KC sniffs.
WR Jordan Matthews (SF) - If not for Doss, I'd probably snag this kid as a great hands/chain mover type. The Chiefs really don't have that guy anymore, unless Pringle can step up in that role.
CB Jamar Taylor (SEA) - Vet corner that's better than either of the others I have on this list IMO. He was competing to be the starting nickel in Seattle, so I'm surprised they let him walk. Maybe he wanted a chance elsewhere for more playing time.

Hell yea, pretty stupid of him to post something like that in a thread about cuts from other teams we might take a look at. I mean REALLY, the nerve!

I'll run this one more time, and then step away.

HB played 4 snaps in the pre-season. (I am going to assume he is healthy and a go for the regular season.) The secondary should look better in the regular season when he is on the field full time. If not, then yes, we may have some issues in the secondary. But for right now, a secondary of Thornhill, HB, Fuller, and Breeland doesn't cause me great concern. Will the other team ever complete a pass against that unit. Probably. Might even make a first down on 3rd and long on occasion.

Am I a Ragland fan? No. But I think the Packers game would indicate a change in the depth chart, even though we have not officially seen one to verify that a change occurred.

And we picked up an o-lineman from Houston. Don't know much about him, but he does sound promising.

And with that, I will be quiet now.

Saints traded for Kiko Alonso so that's out.

Word I heard was that Ragland was playing more in the Packers game not because of a depth chart change, but because they wanted to get him more live-fire time playing strong side, where they have evidently begun to play him recently, rather than in the middle.

Which doesn't make much sense to me, but there it is. Maybe now that he's healthy, he's suddenly moving way better than we all think. But it looks like we may now be talking about the same three starters (Hitch, Rags, Wilson) but not exactly where we thought they were playing.

Exactly where did he post the cuts he thinks we should look at?

That's what Wally said and I take him at his word.

Another way of looking at the switch/experiment is that they weren't overly enthusiastic about his performance at MLB, Mr. keg in kc.

I still believe that speed (as opposed to mass) is critically important at linebacker in the New NFL. You can't hit if you can't arrive.

And sadly, you can't coach speed ... or coach out an agonizingly slow, ass-dragging, dawdling waddle.

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I don't think that would make much sense. Any kind of weakness he'd have in the middle would be exacerbated playing the strong side. Why expose him to more coverage if the idea is that he's too slow?

It could just as well be that they like Hitch or Wilson more in there than at weak or strong side...

I really don't know, though.

I'm still a little surprised Lee isn't in the picture more TBH

He didn't take any snaps at Green Bay. I find that curious if he is still a backup.

I was still hoping they were trying to feature Ragland for a trade with somebody and then get Lee into the starting lineup. He's pretty much looked like the best LB in the preseason to my eye. And it would have explained Dorian O'Daniel's continued presence on the roster, since we'd be losing a LB.