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RunKC 03-15-2024 10:11 AM

Aaron Donald retiring
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Aaron Donald’s announcement: <a href="https://t.co/cFFsH9dSI0">https://t.co/cFFsH9dSI0</a></p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1768671179882053837?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

KC Hawks 03-15-2024 10:11 AM

Aaron Donald retiring
 
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Rams DT Aaron Donald has announced his retirement.</p>&mdash; Adam Schefter (@AdamSchefter) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamSchefter/status/1768671071970938940?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

staylor26 03-15-2024 10:15 AM

Holy shit.

This offseason is nuts.

Crazy thing is the Rams actually looked like a contender again, and they finally have draft picks.

Urc Burry 03-15-2024 10:15 AM

Hmmm. Obviously different positions, but corner is a huge need as well. So the Rams get desperate and heat up the Sneed talks?

ThyKingdomCome15 03-15-2024 10:15 AM

WHOA!!!

loochy 03-15-2024 10:15 AM

Aaron, play one more season for the vet min and get another ring

ThyKingdomCome15 03-15-2024 10:15 AM

WHOA!!!

tooge 03-15-2024 10:16 AM

Damn, again. Make up your mind Aaron

Peter Gibbons 03-15-2024 10:16 AM

Again? What is he Jay Leno?

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 03-15-2024 10:17 AM

First ballot hall of famer and one of the best DT of all time

pugsnotdrugs19 03-15-2024 10:17 AM

One of these guys who worked himself to the point that he just said enough. At least that's what I think.

Huge blow to that team. Damn.

Wisconsin_Chief 03-15-2024 10:20 AM

Someone posted this in the free agency thread yesterday and got torn to shreds for posting fake news. Look like it was legit.

Whoever it was, come get your glory!

Gary Cooper 03-15-2024 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17445039)
First ballot hall of famer and one of the best DT of all time

Either him or Mean Joe Greene. Maybe Alan Page.

Good argument for Donald on the Mount Rushmore of defensive players, regardless of position.

Womble 03-15-2024 10:26 AM

So we have just signed the now unquestionably best DT in the NFL for at least 3 years.

Rainbarrel 03-15-2024 10:26 AM

Offensive lineman health insurance just dropped 35%. Dirty bastard

Bl00dyBizkitz 03-15-2024 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by loochy (Post 17445035)
Aaron, play one more season for the vet min and get another ring

I've always loved the imaginary universe where Aaron Donald and Chris Jones play for the same team. Just unfiltered dominance.

RunKC 03-15-2024 10:37 AM

Donald is right up there with Reggie White as the most dominating DL I’ve ever seen. Definitely the best DT ever

smithandrew051 03-15-2024 10:38 AM

He was decent

FloridaMan88 03-15-2024 10:50 AM

He knew that Chris Jones had surpassed him and he tapped out.

Basileus777 03-15-2024 10:50 AM

His resume is already unreal, there's no reason to destroy his body more. Though he's turning down a lot of money.

tk13 03-15-2024 10:50 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Geno Smith yelling &quot;OH MY GOD&quot; as Aaron Donald sprints at him (r <a href="https://twitter.com/Brook_Weber?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Brook_Weber</a>) <a href="https://t.co/Azk1XN9FTn">pic.twitter.com/Azk1XN9FTn</a></p>&mdash; CJ Fogler account may or may not be notable (@cjzero) <a href="https://twitter.com/cjzero/status/1700994890619040244?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 10, 2023</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RedinTexas 03-15-2024 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17445084)
He knew that Chris Jones had surpassed him and he tapped out.

Strong claim without support. Well, the only way to settle the matter is to see the two of them play side-by-side for a season. That'll help settle it.

crispystl 03-15-2024 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17445057)
I've always loved the imaginary universe where Aaron Donald and Chris Jones play for the same team. Just unfiltered dominance.


Put Myles Garrett on there too. Man…..


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FloridaMan88 03-15-2024 10:53 AM

He was in the league for so long that his first career game was for the St. Louis Rams with Jeff Fisher as HC, playing against Matt Casshole as the Vikings QB.

FloridaMan88 03-15-2024 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RedinTexas (Post 17445090)
Strong claim without support. Well, the only way to settle the matter is to see the two of them play side-by-side for a season. That'll help settle it.

Relax, it’s a joke.

carcosa 03-15-2024 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17445072)
He was decent

He didn't play for my favorite team so I think he SUCKED SHIT!!!!

carcosa 03-15-2024 10:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17445096)
Relax, it’s a joke.

He was also making a joke?

RedinTexas 03-15-2024 10:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88 (Post 17445096)
Relax, it’s a joke.

Yeah, I took it as one.

Radar Chief 03-15-2024 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Basileus777 (Post 17445085)
His resume is already unreal, there's no reason to destroy his body more. Though he's turning down a lot of money.

Seemed to have quite a bit left in the tank but I get it, why run it down to the fumes when you're already set for life.

scho63 03-15-2024 11:21 AM

Just a wild offseason.

Mahomes and the Chiefs broke the league.

Cowboys a deer in the headlights and did nothing.

Teams overpaying for shit.

Ravens lose 9 guys but sign an old running back.

Buffalo got nowhere

Chargers imploded and have no weapons.

Denver rebuild.

Jimmy G got no job.

Justin Fields is a pariah

-King- 03-15-2024 11:24 AM

What the ****

DJ's left nut 03-15-2024 11:33 AM

Donald, at his apex, was the best defensive player I've ever seen. I don't remember Reggie in his prime or it might be him.

But since about 1994 when I can really remember football players a bit better, nobody even really approaches Donald. Maybe peak JJ Watt.

The way he was able to destroy offenses while simultaneously being 100% assignment sound and just not taking plays off was really incredible.

People want to compare Jones to Donald but I really don't see a comparison. Jones is a fantastic interior pass rusher and a probable hall of famer in his own right. Aaron Donald was something different. Greatest to ever play his position and one of the best defensive players of all time.

DJ's left nut 03-15-2024 11:36 AM

Side note - any reporting on the cap consequences? Because they could be catastrophic.

I think that would accelerate about $40-$50 million in dead money from his signing bonus onto their cap. And I don't think he'd have any obligation to give that signing bonus back (though sometimes teams will pursue a pro-rated portion of it; most don't).

This could really barbecue LAR. And if so - good. **** you, Stan Kroenke.

dlphg9 03-15-2024 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17445190)
Donald, at his apex, was the best defensive player I've ever seen. I don't remember Reggie in his prime or it might be him.

But since about 1994 when I can really remember football players a bit better, nobody even really approaches Donald. Maybe peak JJ Watt.

The way he was able to destroy offenses while simultaneously being 100% assignment sound and just not taking plays off was really incredible.

People want to compare Jones to Donald but I really don't see a comparison. Jones is a fantastic interior pass rusher and a probable hall of famer in his own right. Aaron Donald was something different. Greatest to ever play his position and one of the best defensive players of all time.

Yeah Donald might be the best defensive player ever. Of course I wasn't able to watch everyone, but the dominance in the league during a time that the rules overwhelmingly help the offense is crazy. Jones in his prime doesn't even come close to Donald. He is just on a whole different level.

staylor26 03-15-2024 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17445173)
What the ****

He's teased retirement already, so not exactly shocking, but still a little surprising considering they look like contenders this year.

smithandrew051 03-15-2024 11:46 AM

You guys think he’s the best Ram ever?

Deacon Jones? Eric Dickerson? Marshall Faulk? Kurt Warner?

Maybe recency bias, but I’d have to go with Donald.

siberian khatru 03-15-2024 11:50 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Look at where Chris Jones is relative to everyone EXCEPT Aaron Donald. <a href="https://t.co/XJLgDiOQh4">https://t.co/XJLgDiOQh4</a></p>&mdash; Seth Keysor (@RealMNchiefsfan) <a href="https://twitter.com/RealMNchiefsfan/status/1768686422247321785?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

RunKC 03-15-2024 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17445202)
He's teased retirement already, so not exactly shocking, but still a little surprising considering they look like contenders this year.

He’s talked about the grind of the NFL and how hard it is. And this was the off-season that they were champs.

Lineman have it the hardest of any NFL players. These guys have to eat a shit load of food and hit their macros while hitting the gym. Being that big and strong doesn’t happen naturally.

JJ Watt said that retiring was such a relief not bc of working out but bc of the constant food intake. It’s so much work staying that size.

RunKC 03-15-2024 11:53 AM

Yeah. 9k calories in 7-8 meals every day. **** man that would get tiring and old after 10 years

notorious 03-15-2024 11:55 AM

That guy moved 350 pound professional linemen like we move toddlers.

Dude was incredible.

scho63 03-15-2024 12:05 PM

This came out of nowhere.

Pinchshot 03-15-2024 12:08 PM

He's no Chris Jones

Chiefer89 03-15-2024 12:37 PM

Prime Donald vs Jones. Who you taking?

Keep in mind Jones was vital in all three titles

Mecca 03-15-2024 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17445225)
He’s talked about the grind of the NFL and how hard it is. And this was the off-season that they were champs.

Lineman have it the hardest of any NFL players. These guys have to eat a shit load of food and hit their macros while hitting the gym. Being that big and strong doesn’t happen naturally.

JJ Watt said that retiring was such a relief not bc of working out but bc of the constant food intake. It’s so much work staying that size.

Apparently some dudes like that because some retired lineman balloon to like 400lbs, most end up losing weight but yea.

Chiefer89 03-15-2024 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17445210)
You guys think he’s the best Ram ever?

Deacon Jones? Eric Dickerson? Marshall Faulk? Kurt Warner?

Maybe recency bias, but I’d have to go with Donald.

Not even close....he is definitely the greatest Ram.



Question is where he is all time in NFL history for defensive players. I have him behind LT, White, and possibly Jones (if you factor in postseason play)

scho63 03-15-2024 01:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefer89 (Post 17445324)
Not even close....he is definitely the greatest Ram.

Question is where he is all time in NFL history for defensive players. I have him behind LT, White, and possibly Jones (if you factor in postseason play)

Eric Dickerson was no slouch

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 03-15-2024 01:33 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chris Jones is on another planet. Aaron Donald was in a different dimension. <a href="https://t.co/XyiqgbXemJ">https://t.co/XyiqgbXemJ</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Live (@ArrowheadLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadLive/status/1768690617616310608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

stevegroganfan 03-15-2024 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17445210)
You guys think he’s the best Ram ever?

Deacon Jones? Eric Dickerson? Marshall Faulk? Kurt Warner?

Maybe recency bias, but I’d have to go with Donald.

Better than Dickerson(too many fumbles and traded to the Colts after contract dispute), Faulk and Warner.... Deacon Jones is a bit before my time but I do like watching old games/learning about older players and Deacon Jones has a great argument. Donald may have edged him out but it is close between those two either way.

Bl00dyBizkitz 03-15-2024 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 17445225)
He’s talked about the grind of the NFL and how hard it is. And this was the off-season that they were champs.

Lineman have it the hardest of any NFL players. These guys have to eat a shit load of food and hit their macros while hitting the gym. Being that big and strong doesn’t happen naturally.

JJ Watt said that retiring was such a relief not bc of working out but bc of the constant food intake. It’s so much work staying that size.

It also depends on your body type. Some people put on weight easy, some people can't put on weight to save their life without eating an uncomfortable amount of food.

You'd think the latter would be ****ing awesome, eat whatever you want lol. But when you need to hit a certain weight, it's not fun fighting your own metabolism.

alanm 03-15-2024 01:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17445201)
Yeah Donald might be the best defensive player ever. Of course I wasn't able to watch everyone, but the dominance in the league during a time that the rules overwhelmingly help the offense is crazy. Jones in his prime doesn't even come close to Donald. He is just on a whole different level.

Alan Page says Hello. ;)

dlphg9 03-15-2024 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chiefer89 (Post 17445317)
Prime Donald vs Jones. Who you taking?

Keep in mind Jones was vital in all three titles

Donald, no question. He was pretty much the reason they won that SB against Cincy. I have no doubt that he'd have played just as well or better than Jones in our post season runs.

siberian khatru 03-15-2024 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 17445435)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Chris Jones is on another planet. Aaron Donald was in a different dimension. <a href="https://t.co/XyiqgbXemJ">https://t.co/XyiqgbXemJ</a></p>&mdash; Arrowhead Live (@ArrowheadLive) <a href="https://twitter.com/ArrowheadLive/status/1768690617616310608?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I mean, I posted the same thing just 10 posts ago, but whatever. :p

kysirsoze 03-15-2024 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17445229)
That guy moved 350 pound professional linemen like we move toddlers.

Dude was incredible.

Wow you are really violent with toddlers.

Megatron96 03-15-2024 03:37 PM

Lol, I bet there's a lot of QBs that are sighing with relief today.



One of the best to ever do it. On the Mt. Rushmore of defensive linemen for sure. Tip of the hat to a true great one, really enjoyed watching him demolish OLs every year. Thank God we don't have to worry about blocking him ever again.

Bump 03-15-2024 03:55 PM

he's one of the greatest for sure

scho63 03-15-2024 03:58 PM

Donald is 16th on most effective sacking of QB's. TJ Watt is #1

Rain Man 03-15-2024 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kysirsoze (Post 17445576)
Wow you are really violent with toddlers.

I find that they're really vulnerable to bull rushes.

stevieray 03-16-2024 07:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by notorious (Post 17445229)
That guy moved 350 pound professional linemen like we move toddlers.

Dude was incredible.

Reggie White would do it with one arm.

ChiefsFanatic 03-16-2024 09:34 PM

I know that AD was great, and mostly dominant, but I feel like he is a little overrated. I say that because people act like he is a GOAT, and the accolades seem to back it up, but I would take Reggie, I would take Bruce, and I would even take a prime JJ over AD every time.

kccrow 03-17-2024 12:45 AM

Everyone forgets about John Randle in the discussion for the best pass-rushing DT of all time. Reggie White played DE, primarily. Aaron Donald still doesn't trump Randle for me but he was ****ing good.

ChiefsFanatic 03-17-2024 08:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17447302)
Everyone forgets about John Randle in the discussion for the best pass-rushing DT of all time. Reggie White played DE, primarily. Aaron Donald still doesn't trump Randle for me but he was ****ing good.

Man, Randle was a dawg.

I know that I am lumping positions together, but at the GOAT level for defensive linemen, it should just be defensive linemen and not DE vs DT, because I think it's hard to match play styles from era to era. What defensive linemen are asked to do now, is a lot different than any time in the past.

But, yeah, Randle was amazing.

But, there are so many incredible defensive linemen, and I just can't buy AD as the GOAT.

Reggie White
Bruce Smith
John Randle
Buck Buchanan
Lee Roy Selman
Merlin Olsen
Deacon Jones
Mean Joe Greene

That's just off the top of my head, but I don't see AD being that much better than any of those guys, and I am sure all the ones I can't think of.

Valiant 03-17-2024 06:23 PM

I would say offer the rams a 5th and see if Donald will unretire a champion. Line up next to Jones.

kccrow 03-17-2024 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 17447407)
Man, Randle was a dawg.

I know that I am lumping positions together, but at the GOAT level for defensive linemen, it should just be defensive linemen and not DE vs DT, because I think it's hard to match play styles from era to era. What defensive linemen are asked to do now, is a lot different than any time in the past.

But, yeah, Randle was amazing.

But, there are so many incredible defensive linemen, and I just can't buy AD as the GOAT.

Reggie White
Bruce Smith
John Randle
Buck Buchanan
Lee Roy Selman
Merlin Olsen
Deacon Jones
Mean Joe Greene

That's just off the top of my head, but I don't see AD being that much better than any of those guys, and I am sure all the ones I can't think of.

Minnesota may have had the best DLine ever in the early 90s with Chris Doleman, Henry Thomas, and John Randle. All 3 were absolute game-wreckers. It's a shame they were only all together for a few years.

Randle had 137.5 career sacks. Thomas had 93.5, and Doleman had 150.5.

Doleman gets forgotten in the annals too, he's 5th all-time in sacks.

gordonelloyd 03-17-2024 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChiefsFanatic (Post 17447407)
Man, Randle was a dawg.

I know that I am lumping positions together, but at the GOAT level for defensive linemen, it should just be defensive linemen and not DE vs DT, because I think it's hard to match play styles from era to era. What defensive linemen are asked to do now, is a lot different than any time in the past.

But, yeah, Randle was amazing.

But, there are so many incredible defensive linemen, and I just can't buy AD as the GOAT.

Reggie White
Bruce Smith
John Randle
Buck Buchanan
Lee Roy Selman
Merlin Olsen
Deacon Jones
Mean Joe Greene

That's just off the top of my head, but I don't see AD being that much better than any of those guys, and I am sure all the ones I can't think of.

And I would add Bob Lily, Allen page and JJ Waltt to that list. I think he’s one of the top defensive lineman, but I don’t think he stands out above these others.

And he is certainly not the top defensive player. No way he ranks above Lawrence Taylor.

Rausch 03-18-2024 05:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stevieray (Post 17446220)
Reggie White would do it with one arm.

To be fair Pennel did it with one arm on three different occasions in the SB.

When he feels like it that dude can beast...


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