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LagunaSWana 04-30-2024 09:01 AM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief (Post 17504617)
A new domed stadium out by the racetrack in Kansas? I guess that's better than moving to San Antonio etc. but still would suck big time.

Except that it would put KC in the rotation for the Final 4 and the Super Bowl, which is 99% the reason you go domed.

KCUnited 04-30-2024 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by duncan_idaho (Post 17504598)
St. Louis politicians don't run the Missouri legislature. The difference in seats for the two metro areas is 12-13, out of 163 members of the Missouri house.

If going based purely on fandom/fan support, the Chiefs have a majority of the house. It's not based just on that, though. Obviously.

I suspect the MO legislature and governor's office are motivated to keep both teams in the state (In fact, I know this from talking to the husband of a friend of mine who is a state rep on the side of the aisle that is in power).

Kansas City itself and the state will work to keep the Royals. Kansas City, or North Kansas City + Kansas City and the state will work to keep the Chiefs.

And all of the tax shit will probably be worse than it would have been had the sales tax extension passed, and Johnson County will continue to suck off the teat of Kansas City proper while freeloading on the things that make the area cool.

I wonder about this part when its all said and done. The real possibility of it costing more than the initial extension

I'm a buy once, cry once guy though so I'd ultimately rather pay more and get it right when it came to the shortcomings of both proposals (I'm not a voter)

wazu 04-30-2024 09:03 AM

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Originally Posted by LagunaSWana (Post 17504630)
Except that it would put KC in the rotation for the Final 4 and the Super Bowl, which is 99% the reason you go domed.

Hosting a Super Bowl or a Final Four once every 20 years is not worth having a shitty game day experience for every Chiefs game.

Valiant 04-30-2024 09:04 AM

I can see royals moving to Kansas. Let Johnson county pay for the team. Sherman could try and move the team
.but would lose the lawsuit and the name, history and titles stay with KC. Also, je Dunn would need.to move as they would lose all contracts in KC area. Sherman is in a tough spot with being caught as a liar.

Chiefs will get what they want. Problem is their design was not enough for the amount of money they wanted to spend. It was a shit upgrade for 800m.

It needs to be a district. Put in a couple bars, restaurant, top golf, pickleball with its own parking. And a moveable roof that goes over both locations.

wazu 04-30-2024 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17504627)
Yeah, no idea what they're planning, but if they tore down the old Cerner buildings (RIP), they could probably fit a stadium in there across the street from Great Wolf Lodge, and build hotels or whatever on the other side, between Village West Pkwy and I-70.

It wouldn't be a crazy short walk, but a mile from Jazz, YardHouse, and several other restaurants... about the same as walking from Lot L.

Those things would no doubt make it a better experience for out-of-towners. As a local I can't imagine I'd bother with any of the other surrounding attractions on Chiefs gameday. Between tailgating and the game, it's already a pretty full day.

philfree 04-30-2024 09:34 AM

Moving to KS would suck for this out of towner. I can Leave my house and be at Arrowhead in 2:45 minutes. Adding 30-45 minutes to that would suck. The Great Wolf Lodge? I've priced that and I can stay in a beach side high rise condo on the Gulf of Mexico for that kind of money. **** that place and it's indoor pool full of kiddie pee.

TomBarndtsTwin 04-30-2024 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17504635)
Hosting a Super Bowl or a Final Four once every 20 years is not worth having a shitty game day experience for every Chiefs game.

This X 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 bazillion!

Bearcat 04-30-2024 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17504639)
Those things would no doubt make it a better experience for out-of-towners. As a local I can't imagine I'd bother with any of the other surrounding attractions on Chiefs gameday. Between tailgating and the game, it's already a pretty full day.

Yeah, I'd personally rather see that kind of stuff for baseball, because I've never tailgated for the Royals and don't view baseball games as the same all-day event like Chiefs games.

Local or traveling, I could see it changing my habits a bit though.. for example, I did TopGolf before the Chiefs/Cards game across from the Cards stadium and it was great... I wouldn't fully substitute that for tailgating in KC, but if there was a prime time game, I'd definitely consider showing up extra early for something like that or other things close by. And I personally don't postgame tailgate and never eat inside the stadium, so postgame meals/drinks would be an option.

And I'm usually crashing a tailgate, so I'm sure many others spend the first half of the day prepping and so forth, and wouldn't have the time... but if there's other stuff to do besides waiting in line for the gates to open, I'd be all for it to cram in as much stuff on a game day.

mr. tegu 04-30-2024 09:58 AM

Stadium Watch 2024 -Jackson County Residents: How Are You Voting?
 
If Kansas really plays it’s cards right, it can use the new stadium to attract the real prize, Buc-ees.

mr. tegu 04-30-2024 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 17504532)
Yeah sure. Like I said is having some outlet stores around and a couple bar and grill restaurants make it that much of a destination location and something that's impossible to replicate at the TSC?


They have had years to build that area up but nothing has happened so it actually does seem quite difficult.

Bearcat 04-30-2024 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17504635)
Hosting a Super Bowl or a Final Four once every 20 years is not worth having a shitty game day experience for every Chiefs game.

And besides those events, they would only need a roof like once a decade when the wind chill is -30⁰ or there's a 100⁰ September afternoon game or afternoon summer concert.

Woogieman 04-30-2024 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by LagunaSWana (Post 17504630)
Except that it would put KC in the rotation for the Final 4 and the Super Bowl, which is 99% the reason you go domed.

At the expense of natural grass and open-air for the main attraction? No effin' way. You'd get one SB in your lifetime, probably one FF for a waning sport...no dome, thank you

wazu 04-30-2024 10:18 AM

Sent a note to my Missouri state rep. He responded pretty quickly. A few notes:

1. Missouri has no comparable tool to Kansas Star Bonds that they can use to make these kinds of things happen. He noted they are hoping to have something similar, but probably a year away.

2. Neither the Chiefs nor the Royals have reached out for any state support.

Doesn't sound real promising.

ChiefsFanatic 04-30-2024 10:28 AM

There is, or used to be, a huge area just on the north side of 470 and Douglas/Lee's Summit Road that would have been a good spot for stadium and surrounding developments.

I honestly don't care if it's in KCMO or KCKS, as long as it, you guessed it, has a retractable roof. I would prefer it to be in Kansas City, MO, or at least Jackson County, but whatever keeps them in the metro area, with the best option for a new stadium works for me.

ChiefsFanatic 04-30-2024 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 17504505)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">I remain unworried about team moves, given the pretty ample tools at issue and ability to outbid for Missouri and Kansas City. That said, as many shared, I do appreciate the clarity the teams have provided that share the now open nature of competition.</p>— Mayor Q (@QuintonLucasKC) <a href="https://twitter.com/QuintonLucasKC/status/1785148560968753504?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 30, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

He is one of the worst Mayors this city has ever had. He is more concerned with his Q rating and media exposure instead of running a city while looking out for the city's and the residents' best interests.


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