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MahomesMagic 02-27-2024 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17419346)
Honestly, the "slot" only stuff doesn't really mean much to me in the Chiefs current offense. They don't really do that. Guys move around everywhere.

Great.


The problem is the current KC team doesn't actually have guys that can win on the boundary.


That's why we went 16 straight drives in the AFC Chamoionship and SB with Patrick Mahomes in his prime without scoring a TD.

I prefer to fix the problem rather than doing the same shit that didn't work before.

MahomesMagic 02-27-2024 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17419344)
Yeah, his small size handed us the game. Good job by him.

I'm glad he fumbled and did not score 2 TD's against us.


Of course without him Baltimore wouldn't have been competitive because he's a difference maker.

Mecca 02-27-2024 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17419345)
Even money says he shit on the McDuffie pick because "Spags likes big corners" as well.

National media guys get the Chiefs wrong seemingly every single time.

Rice was really polarizing, there were quite a few draft people who didn't like him at all.

O.city 02-27-2024 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17419359)
I'm glad he fumbled and did not score 2 TD's against us.


Of course without him Baltimore wouldn't have been competitive because he's a difference maker.

He's too small. Won't hold up.

Mecca 02-27-2024 01:32 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Busy dreaming of Troy Franklin with a QB who can create out of structure in the pros <br><br>He’s a first round lock and I’m stoked to see his combine numbers <a href="https://t.co/pzZFqMgCuB">pic.twitter.com/pzZFqMgCuB</a></p>&mdash; FF Mike Kash (@FFMikeKash) <a href="https://twitter.com/FFMikeKash/status/1761842226601087413?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 25, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Stuff like this makes me think with Mahomes he would be a monster.

DJ's left nut 02-27-2024 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17419346)
Honestly, the "slot" only stuff doesn't really mean much to me in the Chiefs current offense. They don't really do that. Guys move around everywhere.

If anything the Chiefs have shown an affinity for 'heavy slot' personnel groups. They started Rice there, they've used Watson there. They used put Watkins in the slot a fair bit. Obviously they love Kelce out of the slot as a move TE. JJSS was out of the slot about half the time. Meanwhile Skyy Moore spent about twice as much time out wide this year as he did from the slot.

The Chiefs don't appear to care much about the more traditional slot WR.

If a guy gets open, Reid will figure out how to use him and it will probably be all over the formation.

O.city 02-27-2024 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17419364)
If anything the Chiefs have shown an affinity for 'heavy slot' personnel groups. They started Rice there, they've used Watson there. They used put Watkins in the slot a fair bit. Obviously they love Kelce out of the slot as a move TE. JJSS was out of the slot about half the time. Meanwhile Skyy Moore spent about twice as much time out wide this year as he did from the slot.

The Chiefs don't appear to care much about the more traditional slot WR.

If a guy gets open, Reid will figure out how to use him and it will probably be all over the formation.

They just move guys around everywhere. They're not "plop a guy out wide and leave him there" offensively.

Shoes 02-27-2024 01:39 PM

Too many guys I like in this draft class, I want Franklin and Pearsall- is that too much to ask?

MahomesMagic 02-27-2024 01:40 PM

Franklin is a guy I can see moving around but primarily as a Vertical 2.

kccrow 02-27-2024 02:11 PM

Franklin wins at all levels, from the outside. I don't know where you're getting this narrative that he doesn't. He's twice the receiver that Adonai Mitchell is and it's not particularly close.

kccrow 02-27-2024 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17419364)
If anything the Chiefs have shown an affinity for 'heavy slot' personnel groups. They started Rice there, they've used Watson there. They used put Watkins in the slot a fair bit. Obviously they love Kelce out of the slot as a move TE. JJSS was out of the slot about half the time. Meanwhile Skyy Moore spent about twice as much time out wide this year as he did from the slot.

The Chiefs don't appear to care much about the more traditional slot WR.

If a guy gets open, Reid will figure out how to use him and it will probably be all over the formation.

Speed on the outside, big guys on the inside. :D

MahomesMagic 02-27-2024 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 17419434)
Franklin wins at all levels, from the outside. I don't know where you're getting this narrative that he doesn't. He's twice the receiver that Adonai Mitchell is and it's not particularly close.

At the next level I see Franklin as a Jameson Williams style decoy and Adonai as a #1 WR who is focal.

I prefer the #1 WR that can eat 12+ targets a game.

JohnnyHammersticks 02-27-2024 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17416662)
Rank these WRs:

Troy Franklin
Brian Thomas Jr.
Keon Coleman
Xavier Worthy
Xavier Legette
Adonai Mitchell

(That's the order I'd rank them)

Ranking in terms of my opinion of their potential career production:

Thomas
Legette
Worthy
Franklin
Coleman
Mitchell

Ranking in terms of the order I think they'll be drafted:

Thomas
Franklin
Coleman
Worthy
Mitchell
Legette

MahomesMagic 02-27-2024 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks (Post 17419448)
Ranking in terms of my opinion of their potential career production:

Thomas
Legette
Worthy
Franklin
Coleman
Mitchell

Ranking in terms of the order I think they'll be drafted:

Thomas
Franklin
Coleman
Worthy
Mitchell
Legette

If some actual NFL team actually takes little Worthy before Adonai I will laugh my ass off.

kccrow 02-27-2024 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 17419441)
At the next level I see Franklin as a Jameson Williams style decoy and Adonai as a #1 WR who is focal.

I prefer the #1 WR that can eat 12+ targets a game.

So the guy that runs like a deer and was twice as productive in college is going to be a decoy while the guy that runs like a snail and is rail thin too is going to eat. Hmm. I think not.

Mitchell will be lucky if he proves to be a Tee Higgins. That is a reliable but not dynamic #2 WR. He's no Alpha dawg. I'd respect this "alpha" bullshit mentality if you were saying these things about Keon Coleman because he at least has the mass and speed to potentially be that guy.


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