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InChiefsHeaven 02-09-2015 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Sexy Beast (Post 11318179)
Gotta admit, you kinda lost me here.

It's a show about the human condition and what they go through to survive during a zombie apocalypse. It's not about the zombies, it's about the people.

eDave 02-09-2015 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant (Post 11318129)
Character development doesn't have to ****ing drag.

That's the point of the whole god damned show!

notorious 02-09-2015 04:21 PM

If you want a zombie show, watch Z Nation.


It's completely different, but worth watching for a few laughs.

The Franchise 02-09-2015 04:30 PM

Settle the **** down. I'm not screaming "MORE ZOMBIES!!!1!!11". I'm simply saying that the show ****ing drags and is unnecessarily slow.

Season 1 and 2? Just fine. Season 3 so far? Monotonous and sleep inducing.

KC_Connection 02-09-2015 04:36 PM

They continue to kill off every moral compass character (Dale, Hershel, Bob, Tyreese) on this show. If somebody starts espousing those views, at this point you pretty much know they're done for within the year.

Fire Me Boy! 02-09-2015 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant (Post 11318580)
Settle the **** down. I'm not screaming "MORE ZOMBIES!!!1!!11". I'm simply saying that the show ****ing drags and is unnecessarily slow.

Season 1 and 2? Just fine. Season 3 so far? Monotonous and sleep inducing.

You're complaining about it being slow, but you say Season 2 is "just fine"?

Now I actually really liked Season 2, but that season was all about character development and was pretty slow.

keg in kc 02-09-2015 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by notorious (Post 11318561)
If you want a zombie show, watch Z Nation.


It's completely different, but worth watching for a few laughs.

You'll have iZombie on the CW in a month or so.

Kman34 02-09-2015 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant (Post 11318580)
Settle the **** down. I'm not screaming "MORE ZOMBIES!!!1!!11". I'm simply saying that the show ****ing drags and is unnecessarily slow.

Season 1 and 2? Just fine. Season 3 so far? Monotonous and sleep inducing.

The farm and the prison were slow...I much rather them be on the road..

The Franchise 02-09-2015 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 11318594)
You're complaining about it being slow, but you say Season 2 is "just fine"?

Now I actually really liked Season 2, but that season was all about character development and was pretty slow.

2 started to slow down but it wasn't that bad.

notorious 02-09-2015 05:07 PM

The farm was waaaaaaay slower than the last few seasons.

Zebedee DuBois 02-09-2015 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 11318591)
They continue to kill off every moral compass character (Dale, Hershel, Bob, Tyreese) on this show. If somebody starts espousing those views, at this point you pretty much know they're done for within the year.

Glen has started talking about 'future world'. :shake:

ToxSocks 02-09-2015 05:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Dicky McElephant (Post 11318109)
I started Season 3 and I can't make it past the first 4 episodes. I'm about to just give up.

Same. My nephew is into this show and i really, really want to like it. Afterall, i invested two seasons worth of time in it.

But this show has done nothing to pull me back in, and i've tried.

Like i said, i WANT to like this show, but it's just so boring imo. So Slooooow.

Zebedee DuBois 02-09-2015 05:22 PM

There really isn't anything new in the arc of the story.

The core group encounters a new group that is coping with things in a way that conflicts the core group - all against a backdrop of dangerous but relatively manageable zombies. Violence ensues.

lather rinse repeat.

KC_Connection 02-09-2015 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois (Post 11318650)
Glen has started talking about 'future world'. :shake:

Yep, would not be surprised at all if he was the next to go.

KC_Connection 02-09-2015 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Zebedee DuBois (Post 11318671)
There really isn't anything new in the arc of the story.

The core group encounters a new group that is coping with things in a way that conflicts the core group - all against a backdrop of dangerous but relatively manageable zombies. Violence ensues.

lather rinse repeat.

Can't blame them for sticking with what's working in terms of the ratings, but I'll always maintain this show could have been so much more than it was.

thabear04 02-09-2015 07:07 PM

So who house was burnt again when Noah was crying.

Jerm 02-09-2015 07:08 PM

Kill off my favorite character by far and leave Glen around...****ing damnit lol...

notorious 02-09-2015 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 11318884)
Kill off my favorite character by far and leave Glen around...****ing damnit lol...

They better not hurt Michonne.

Radar Chief 02-09-2015 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 11318884)
Kill off my favorite character by far and leave Glen around...****ing damnit lol...

If it helps any Tyrese didn't make it out of the past the prison in the comics.

Jerm 02-09-2015 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 11318912)
If it helps any Tyrese didn't make it out of the past the prison in the comics.

Oh wow didn't know...I figured he'd bite the dust eventually but I'd hope he'd stick around longer.

J Diddy 02-09-2015 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by InChiefsHell (Post 11318114)
Wow. Some people bitching about it moving too slowly...I don't get it. They are developing story and characters. If you want a zombie show, you need to watch something else.

This.

It is these morons who think this show is actually about zombies.

J Diddy 02-09-2015 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 11318884)
Kill off my favorite character by far and leave Glen around...****ing damnit lol...

Once anyone gets the humanity bug their days are numbered. They just aren't made for this world.

dmahurin 02-09-2015 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 11318965)
Oh wow didn't know...I figured he'd bite the dust eventually but I'd hope he'd stick around longer.

He came around a lot earlier in the comics than he did in the show. His character was very different.

Sure-Oz 02-09-2015 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 11318912)
If it helps any Tyrese didn't make it out of the past the prison in the comics.

Helps a bit

DJJasonp 02-09-2015 10:26 PM

Maybe I'm in the minority, but I thought last night's episode was one of the top episodes in the entire series.

The direction was fantastic - very artistic. I thought the slo-mo shots where Rick takes out the walker was amazing.

I thought it was an appropriate send-off for Tyrese.

The only question I was left after the episode (and after watching 3/4 of talking dead).....was the radio/news broadcasts. Wasnt sure how that came into play all of a sudden, when I dont recall it ever being addressed before.

I'm assuming this was all in his mind, the entire time during the zombie apocalypse?

In the talking dead, Tyrese (the actor) made it clear that he felt his character had done all he could....and there wasnt much left for him to do in the way the world existed.

He was a man acting as morally straight as he could, with the thinking that you dont get free reign to do bad things, just because of what's going on in the world that moment.

I think the point is that his line of thinking doesnt really have a place in the zombie apocalypse......the recurring theme of "no hope, things arent going to change" conflicted with his "this is only temporary" mentality.

Thought the whole sequence at Noah's house and the ride back was beautifully shot.

NewChief 02-09-2015 10:31 PM

I liked the episode, though I wish I wouldn't have gotten on here and had Tyrese's death spoiled.

I'm actually finishing up The Wire right now as well. I really like the Cutty character on there, but was cool with the Wire finishing because I get reminded of Cutty by Tyrese on the Walking Dead.

Oh well. Bye bye Cutty. Bye bye Tyrese.

notorious 02-10-2015 08:52 AM

Yeah, stay away from any show thread that you haven't seen yet.

KC_Lee 02-10-2015 09:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 11319359)
The only question I was left after the episode (and after watching 3/4 of talking dead).....was the radio/news broadcasts. Wasnt sure how that came into play all of a sudden, when I dont recall it ever being addressed before.

I'm assuming this was all in his mind, the entire time during the zombie apocalypse?

All in his mind, referring back to the story he told Noah about his father telling him and Sasha that they had to listen as "Citizens of the World".

But if you listen to the broadcast it parallels with the zombie apocalypse; people getting hacked up, cannibalism, etc.

I thought the episode from a production stand point was great. Playing with the time line, flashbacks, etc. was awesome. The script was clunky and underwhelming. Just sort of seemed like Rick, Michonne, and Glenn were just spouting out lines and brooding.

frankotank 02-10-2015 01:42 PM

OK...so we got what....roughly three black dudes?
one hasn't been on the show more than a couple seconds at a time in FOREVER.
two is a dip shit who is pretty much directly responsible for the death of three.

RACISTS!

I'm wondering if we're gonna see those armless torsos buried...heads sticking out as some kind of lame defense?

Mr. Plow 02-10-2015 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by frankotank (Post 11320409)
OK...so we got what....roughly three black dudes?
one hasn't been on the show more than a couple seconds at a time in FOREVER.
two is a dip shit who is pretty much directly responsible for the death of three.

RACISTS!

I'm wondering if we're gonna see those armless torsos buried...heads sticking out as some kind of lame defense?

LMAO

I told my wife as soon as the new kid joined the group "Too many black people on the show, someone is going to die."

ottawa_chiefs_fan 02-10-2015 02:14 PM

A very minor point - but one that bugs me - or i missed something simple? what was the significance of Noah (is that the kids name?) scraping his head while going through the fence on the way in? I thought it must have some significance since it was done - but cannot think of any????

KC_Lee 02-10-2015 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ottawa_chiefs_fan (Post 11320485)
A very minor point - but one that bugs me - or i missed something simple? what was the significance of Noah (is that the kids name?) scraping his head while going through the fence on the way in? I thought it must have some significance since it was done - but cannot think of any????

Spoiler!

Fire Me Boy! 02-10-2015 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 11321114)
Noah scraping his head + Glen finding the bat....


You should spoiler that, IMO.

Rausch 02-10-2015 07:08 PM

I thought he deserved a better ending. Hell, when he wanted to die he beat off an army of walkers with a ****ing hammer.

This dude was Black Thor and he's taken out because he wasn't paying attention?

Weak...

Fire Me Boy! 02-10-2015 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11321149)
Black Thor

LMAO

Ragged Robin 02-10-2015 07:22 PM

WHO HERE SHIPS BETH & DARYL??

KC_Lee 02-10-2015 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 11321120)
You should spoiler that, IMO.

Yeah, bad form on my part. Deepest apologies.

Fire Me Boy! 02-11-2015 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 11321272)
Yeah, bad form on my part. Deepest apologies.


No sweat for me, I've read the comics. :)

OmahaChief 02-11-2015 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch (Post 11321149)
I thought he deserved a better ending. Hell, when he wanted to die he beat off an army of walkers with a ****ing hammer.

This dude was Black Thor and he's taken out because he wasn't paying attention?

Weak...

To me that was the point. In that word you have to be on point at all times. He was not always wiling to do that or do what it takes as the Gov was saying. In his momment of reflection/sadness for others he got bite.

I liked the way he was taken out in the context of the show. But we all have our own ideas so I totally respect what you are saying. He was a badass when he wanted to be.

Radar Chief 02-11-2015 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 11321114)
Spoiler!

Spoiler!

TambaBerry 02-11-2015 08:50 AM

My biggest pet peeve about the show is the zombies are always growling scraping there feet on the ground yet in a dead ass silent house that zombie turns into a ****ing ninja and sneaks up on him to surprise him. Bull shit, it's happened a bunch in this show.

Fire Me Boy! 02-11-2015 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 11321738)
Spoiler!

I think you're right on with the bat.

However, I think the scratch is unrelated. It was a subtle clue to the fact we were seeing a flashback. In the opening sequence, you see Noah crying over the grave and he has the scratch there. We're led to believe at the beginning that it was Beth's funeral, when in reality it was a flash forward to Tyrese's.

Check No. 2 here: http://uproxx.com/tv/2015/02/all-the...-walking-dead/

Spoiler!

Fire Me Boy! 02-11-2015 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 11321739)
My biggest pet peeve about the show is the zombies are always growling scraping there feet on the ground yet in a dead ass silent house that zombie turns into a ****ing ninja and sneaks up on him to surprise him. Bull shit, it's happened a bunch in this show.

Willing suspension of disbelief, TambaBerry.

Radar Chief 02-11-2015 10:02 AM

Nice link, FMB. Thanks for that. :thumb:

KC_Lee 02-11-2015 10:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 11321753)
I think you're right on with the bat.

However, I think the scratch is unrelated. It was a subtle clue to the fact we were seeing a flashback. In the opening sequence, you see Noah crying over the grave and he has the scratch there. We're led to believe at the beginning that it was Beth's funeral, when in reality it was a flash forward to Tyrese's.

My wife and I we're talking about that. In the opening funeral scene we never see Sasha clearly. That would have been a dead (see what I did there) give away that it was Tyrese being buried.

If you re-watch the episode you catch all the references and flashbacks.

I read that the radio DJ that Tyrese was listening to was Andrew Lincoln in his natural British accent, that's kind of cool.

InChiefsHeaven 02-11-2015 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 11321811)
My wife and I we're talking about that. In the opening funeral scene we never see Sasha clearly. That would have been a dead (see what I did there) give away that it was Tyrese being buried.

If you re-watch the episode you catch all the references and flashbacks.

I read that the radio DJ that Tyrese was listening to was Andrew Lincoln in his natural British accent, that's kind of cool.

yeah, I watched the Talking Dead, and apparently he read it just for them to have something to go off of, but the director liked the idea so they just kept it as him. Pretty cool...

Nzoner 02-11-2015 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Fire Me Boy! (Post 11321753)
I think you're right on with the bat.

However, I think the scratch is unrelated. It was a subtle clue to the fact we were seeing a flashback. In the opening sequence, you see Noah crying over the grave and he has the scratch there. We're led to believe at the beginning that it was Beth's funeral, when in reality it was a flash forward to Tyrese's.

Check No. 2 here: http://uproxx.com/tv/2015/02/all-the...-walking-dead/

Spoiler!

I missed more than a few of those.

Fire Me Boy! 02-11-2015 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Nzoner (Post 11321905)
I missed more than a few of those.

Me, too.

Bowser 02-12-2015 06:45 PM

Enjoy -
http://www.cc.com/full-episodes/7p1r..._021115_mid_39

thabear04 02-15-2015 09:05 PM

So who this new guy. Next week episode look good.

KC_Lee 02-15-2015 10:10 PM

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Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 11328404)
So who this new guy. Next week episode look good.

If you really want to know...

Spoiler!


Of course the TV show may differ.

Fire Me Boy! 02-15-2015 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 11328606)
If you really want to know...



Spoiler!




Of course the TV show may differ.


Yup.

thabear04 02-16-2015 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 11328606)
If you really want to know...

Spoiler!


Of course the TV show may differ.

Thanks.

Sure-Oz 02-16-2015 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Lee (Post 11328606)
If you really want to know...

Spoiler!


Of course the TV show may differ.

Never got that far in comics but I assumed it had to do with that.

Chiefnj2 02-16-2015 08:19 AM

zombie killing tornado was as dumb as anything that has ever happened on the show.

Radar Chief 02-16-2015 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 11328867)
zombie killing tornado was as dumb as anything that has ever happened on the show.

That went right by the barn but left it untouched.






I could happen.

TambaBerry 02-16-2015 09:53 AM

They stole the tornado from z nation

thabear04 02-16-2015 10:50 AM

I hope this doesn't happen on the show.
Spoiler!

penguinz 02-16-2015 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by thabear04 (Post 11329078)
I hope this doesn't happen on the show.
Spoiler!

Spoiler!

Fire Me Boy! 02-16-2015 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 11329103)
Spoiler!

I don't see it happening. Not that I wouldn't enjoy, I just don't see it happening.

lawrenceRaider 02-16-2015 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 11328872)
That went right by the barn but left it untouched.






I could happen.

My parents had a small barn and another shed destroyed by a small tornado that left a large machine shop about 20 yards away nearly untouched.

NewChief 02-16-2015 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 11328867)
zombie killing tornado was as dumb as anything that has ever happened on the show.

This show really has started to move into parable/mythological territory, imo. You can really feel the comic book origins. We talked about how the women all wear ridiculous, sexy outfits. The priest continues to wear his habit as well, which is kind of silly. Others have mentioned how the zombie "snuck up" on Tyrese when there hasn't even been a zombie that had a lick of stealth.

Anyway, I don't mind, but they're definitely moved away from trying to cop to any sort of "realism."

penguinz 02-16-2015 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by NewChief (Post 11329337)
This show really has started to move into parable/mythological territory, imo. You can really feel the comic book origins. We talked about how the women all wear ridiculous, sexy outfits. The priest continues to wear his habit as well, which is kind of silly. Others have mentioned how the zombie "snuck up" on Tyrese when there hasn't even been a zombie that had a lick of stealth.

Anyway, I don't mind, but they're definitely moved away from trying to cop to any sort of "realism."

It isn't about the zombies.

Radar Chief 02-16-2015 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by penguinz (Post 11329103)
Spoiler!

Spoiler!

Radar Chief 02-16-2015 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by lawrenceRaider (Post 11329328)
My parents had a small barn and another shed destroyed by a small tornado that left a large machine shop about 20 yards away nearly untouched.

Oh I know. We've all heard/read/seen the stories of a tornado rolling by within feet of a house that it leaves untouched then destroys the building next to it or skips over one building and demolishes the next.
Like I said it's possible, while implying that it's not very probable.

penguinz 02-16-2015 04:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief (Post 11329800)
Spoiler!

Spoiler!

Sure-Oz 02-16-2015 04:45 PM

Looking forward to upcoming episodes...def see more fast paced stuff coming

Jerm 02-18-2015 08:09 PM

It's amazing for me how this show went from can't miss, obsessed to now just meh whatever...don't really care.

It all just feels too "safe" for me...Game of Thrones spoiled me on this.

Ragged Robin 02-18-2015 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Jerm (Post 11334963)
It's amazing for me how this show went from can't miss, obsessed to now just meh whatever...don't really care.

It all just feels too "safe" for me...Game of Thrones spoiled me on this.

but they just killed two main characters in the last 3 episodes :hmmm:

Jerm 02-18-2015 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Ragged Robin (Post 11334982)
but they just killed two main characters in the last 3 episodes :hmmm:

True.....but I was referring to the fact that there are some characters you know nothing will happen to.

Easy 6 02-18-2015 08:35 PM

Its definitely not just me, I've read atleast 6-7 reviews that are tired of the slow pace at this point.

And they all address the most common complaint of true fans that "all you guys want is gunfire and zombie gore", and what they all basically say is thats bullshit... we all know that the real excitement of this show stems from the people on people clashes.

This season started out sooo good, its time to get going again... I was genuinely, seriously pissed that I skipped the SNL 40 thing for that hourlong snorefest.

Baby Lee 02-18-2015 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 11335024)
Its definitely not just me, I've read atleast 6-7 reviews that are tired of the slow pace at this point.

And they all address the most common complaint of true fans that "all you guys want is gunfire and zombie gore", and what they all basically say is thats bullshit... we all know that the real excitement of this show stems from the people on people clashes.

This season started out sooo good, its time to get going again... I was genuinely, seriously pissed that I skipped the SNL 40 thing for that hourlong snorefest.

Yeah, there's a plodding episode. Then there's an episode with almost literally 5 words all episode long.

Easy 6 02-20-2015 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11335243)
Yeah, there's a plodding episode. Then there's an episode with almost literally 5 words all episode long.

Yep, they've been moping around for two straight episodes... it needs to pick up before people find other things to watch, theres no shortage of good tv on sunday nights.

Baby Lee 02-20-2015 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 11338324)
Yep, they've been moping around for two straight episodes... it needs to pick up before people find other things to watch, theres no shortage of good tv on sunday nights.

I noticed it because I tried to 'clothes folding 1/2 watch' it first, and after a bit I realized I hadn't heard anything but music for like 5 straight minutes. Went back and watched and it's amazing how much of this is just them walking down the road with music in the background. It's not that it didn't like it, because I think it established just how wrenched and fatigued they are, but it was almost like filming a fitful nap.

Easy 6 02-20-2015 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 11338412)
I noticed it because I tried to 'clothes folding 1/2 watch' it first, and after a bit I realized I hadn't heard anything but music for like 5 straight minutes. Went back and watched and it's amazing how much of this is just them walking down the road with music in the background. It's not that it didn't like it, because I think it established just how wrenched and fatigued they are, but it was almost like filming a fitful nap.

An episode that drives home just how weary they've become is fine, but two in a row was one too many IMO.

I was thinking last week would be a doozy since the relaunch was so slow... boy was I in for a shock, should've stuck around for the rest of SNL 40. But as luck would have it thats replaying tonight, so I'll catch it then.

Gonzo 02-20-2015 02:49 PM

If you have Hulu, they have the two hour "celebrity suck-fest" that was the SNL 40 show online. I liked the show as much as the next guy but Christ, the whole show was former cast members and hosts licking one another's genitalia for two hours.
The rest of it was a best of highlight reel that you can watch anytime on YouTube or Netflix.
What really pissed me off was Miley ****ing Cirus and Kanye West "singing" when you had Paul Simon there scratching his ass. They did have Mcartney sing but I'm sure 70% of the TV audience had no clue who the hell he was.

Anyway... I'm pretty excited to see what happens on TWD now that they're going to Alexandria. If it follows the comics, shits about to go down like a mother.

I almost kind of hope they don't follow it 100%.

Spoiler!

dred 02-22-2015 09:39 PM

Decent episode this week. Seemed to move along at a good pace, anyways.

Zebedee DuBois 02-22-2015 10:02 PM

I haven't read the comics, so I'm just guessing.

I wonder if Rick has become 'too wild to live inside' now. Even if Alexandria is a safe place and they don't have evil nefarious plans, he isn't capable of trusting others anymore. His dream life of being a farmer in the secure prison grounds blew up, Terminus offered sanctuary and put him on the menu. Can he ever be civilized again?

Sure-Oz 02-22-2015 10:14 PM

Solid episode...finally at the doors of Alexandria. Also nice touch with the rv support by Glenn...ref. back to what Dale taught him

eDave 02-23-2015 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 11342652)
Solid episode...finally at the doors of Alexandria. Also nice touch with the rv support by Glenn...ref. back to what Dale taught him

Ah ha!


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