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Buehler445 04-27-2024 06:46 AM

I do have a question.

Old Man Anjin had Marikos cross. How did he get it after he threw it in the water. I presume it’s a different one?

GloucesterChief 04-27-2024 09:46 AM

I think that was Blackthorne imagining what it would be like if he left Japan to go back to England. He doesn't fully commit to staying in Japan until he tries to commit Seppaku and Toranaga stops him.

GloucesterChief 04-27-2024 10:05 AM

At least they brought the 'Unless I win' back around. It is more subtle in the show but in the book it is made quite clear that is when Toranaga realizes that Blackthorne understands him better than many of his vassals.

In real life Adams and Tokugawa had a meeting that lasted a whole day past midnight as Tokugawa was very curious about Adams' knowledge of sailing and shipbuilding.

KC_Connection 04-27-2024 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 17500342)
I think that was Blackthorne imagining what it would be like if he left Japan to go back to England. He doesn't fully commit to staying in Japan until he tries to commit Seppaku and Toranaga stops him.

Yes, I took that to mean his potential future if he left Japan after Mariko’s death and lived a life full of regret holding onto her/the past.

Buehler445 04-27-2024 10:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GloucesterChief (Post 17500342)
I think that was Blackthorne imagining what it would be like if he left Japan to go back to England. He doesn't fully commit to staying in Japan until he tries to commit Seppaku and Toranaga stops him.

That makes as much sense as anything. Thanks.

Zebedee DuBois 04-28-2024 12:22 PM

A dream within a dream

Kiimo 05-02-2024 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 17500180)
I do have a question.

Old Man Anjin had Marikos cross. How did he get it after he threw it in the water. I presume it’s a different one?


That was a vision of a possible future.

As Toranaga (And Rogriguez) said, Blackthorne's destiny is to never leave Japan

ThaVirus 05-07-2024 05:54 AM

This show was really well done. It reminded me of Game of Thrones with all of the political subterfuge.

Spoiler!


It’s hard to believe an entire culture could have such an obsession with death.

I’m still upset about Fuji’s son. **** anyone who would sanction the murder of an infant because his father spoke out of turn.

dlphg9 05-08-2024 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 17511673)
This show was really well done. It reminded me of Game of Thrones with all of the political subterfuge.

Spoiler!


It’s hard to believe an entire culture could have such an obsession with death.

I’m still upset about Fuji’s son. **** anyone who would sanction the murder of an infant because his father spoke out of turn.

Yeah that's completely ****ed. Mariko convincing her to do it out of honor or some shit didn't sit right with me. **** that shit. Ain't no way they're taking my baby and killing it while I'm still alive.

KC_Connection 05-10-2024 11:15 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FX is looking to make Season 2 of ‘SHOGUN’<br><br>Hiroyuki Sanada is closing a deal to return.<br><br>(Source: Deadline) <a href="https://t.co/f3YI7FyJV5">pic.twitter.com/f3YI7FyJV5</a></p>&mdash; DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) <a href="https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1788960254622941643?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 10, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Great news. There's still plenty of history they can follow with those characters.

Easy 6 05-10-2024 03:06 PM

Stoked for another season of this

BigBeauford 05-10-2024 03:08 PM

We just started this and the boiling thing is the most ****ed up thing I've seen on TV.

Tribal Warfare 05-10-2024 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBeauford (Post 17515865)
We just started this and the boiling thing is the most ****ed up thing I've seen on TV.



https://media.tenor.com/LomVfVPAlIIA...es-sausage.gif

dlphg9 05-10-2024 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 17515597)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">FX is looking to make Season 2 of ‘SHOGUN’<br><br>Hiroyuki Sanada is closing a deal to return.<br><br>(Source: Deadline) <a href="https://t.co/f3YI7FyJV5">pic.twitter.com/f3YI7FyJV5</a></p>&mdash; DiscussingFilm (@DiscussingFilm) <a href="https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1788960254622941643?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">May 10, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Great news. There's still plenty of history they can follow with those characters.

Deadline was reporting that he did ink a deal


https://deadline.com/2024/05/hiroyuk...ma-1235911076/

BigBeauford 05-13-2024 08:18 AM

Oh man, that ending leaving like that. After the quality of that let them cook I guess, but they
Spoiler!
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