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cabletech94 06-23-2021 08:52 PM

Trade Holland for a 12 pack of Billy Beer, leave Wader in New York. Thanks for the memories guys. If we are gonna lose, I’d rather the kids get the experience.

TLO 06-23-2021 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15719463)
I just don't think Holland can be relied on as the everyday closer anymore. BUT - in contrast to Wade, Holland does have vintage days, it's just not something he seems to be able to do each day now.

Holland has a role in the pen, just not as the closer.

Dartgod 06-23-2021 08:53 PM

11 ****ing walks. We absolutely deserved that loss.

Chiefspants 06-23-2021 08:54 PM

I understand the argument that Barlow is more valuable as the fireman (he is!), but I don't see why Zimmer or Brentz aren't the closer over THE VETERAN (Matheny's one true love) Holland. Holly just hasn't shown he can be vintage Holland on consecutive days anymore.

Mama Hip Rockets 06-23-2021 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefspants (Post 15719470)
I understand the argument that Barlow is more valuable as the fireman (he is!), but I don't see why Zimmer or Brentz isn't the closer over THE VETERAN (Matheny's one true love) Holland. Holly just hasn't shown he can be vintage Holland on consecutive days anymore.

Or Staumont

RaidersOftheCellar 06-23-2021 08:56 PM

****ing Yosted. Er, wait...

Am I wrong in thinking that Matheny kind of sucks? Seems like every other game he’s burning through the entire pen. Wasn’t hard to imagine Holland blowing this.

Ron Swanson 06-23-2021 08:58 PM

Oh boy, Keller tomorrow.

Chiefspants 06-23-2021 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Mama Hip Rockets (Post 15719473)
Or Staumont

It seems like there's something going on with Staumont... but hopefully it's not Matheny playing the mind games with the youngsters he was infamous for with the Cards.

ChiefsCountry 06-23-2021 08:58 PM

Royals took the lead in a flukey 9th. I don't think Mathney was planning on Holland for the save.

cabletech94 06-23-2021 08:59 PM

Since I couldn’t watch on tv I was seeing the play by plays through the app. Holland didn’t throw but a few fastballs, mostly sliders. I’m no baseball guru, but I think that speaks volumes.
Duff-man was on some sort of pitch count, yes? Hope Salvy is okay, I had not seen anything on him yet.

Chiefspants 06-23-2021 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15719481)
Royals took the lead in a flukey 9th. I don't think Mathney was planning on Holland for the save.

I think this is the third save opportunity in the last (week?) where he's used Holland.

Coach 06-23-2021 09:03 PM

I will be glad whenever Sherman decides to shit-can Dayton Moore and Matheny. Sooner rather than later.

Both haven't done shit. Moore hasn't done shit since 2016. Matheny haven't done shit and hasn't learned shit since his days in St. Louis.

ROYC75 06-23-2021 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mama Hip Rockets (Post 15719461)
Greg Holland as closer on a team that has Staumont, Zimmer, Brentz, and Barlow. Make it make sense.

To be fair here.... Staumont is recently back from IL, still not back to previous form.

Brent has been good all year but has shown weakness' here this last week and blown a couple of chances.

Zimmer. MATHENY will not let him go more than an inning, usually 1st man called up to put out the fire.

Barlow has been fairly good. I wanted him to stay in longer tonight, but we didn't get that.

But you correct, we need a solid closer and Holland & Davis is not going to rekindle any old magic.

Fish 06-23-2021 09:20 PM

What a shitshow. Yuck.

CasselGotPeedOn 06-23-2021 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry (Post 15719481)
Royals took the lead in a flukey 9th. I don't think Mathney was planning on Holland for the save.

Lol he used Staumont in the 6th inning. What a dumbass excuse.


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