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pugsnotdrugs19 02-17-2018 11:43 AM

I’m really excited to see who else we can add to the secondary this offseason. I want our group to have some serious swagger. Talented secondaries like Seattle’s and Jacksonville’s always play like they’re invincible, they have that aggressive mindset and seem hungry to dominate.

We’ve got some of the key pieces in place to put a group together like that. Need a couple more though.

Chief Northman 02-17-2018 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13422226)
I’m really excited to see who else we can add to the secondary this offseason. I want our group to have some serious swagger. Talented secondaries like Seattle’s and Jacksonville’s always play like they’re invincible, they have that aggressive mindset and seem hungry to dominate.

We’ve got some of the key pieces in place to put a group together like that. Need a couple more though.

I think Safety may be the first pick for the Chiefs.

If you can get one of Watts/Allen/White or even Elliott, you can get a starter opposite Berry with some swagger to their game. Watts is who I’d target as he fills Parker’s role arguably better than the others. Great man coverage guy whether free or locked up on a receiver. Solid tackler with great instincts.
Elliott might be the most versatile, White the most physical. Allen is great at blitzing and excels in zone.

pugsnotdrugs19 02-17-2018 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13421830)
Yep

They need a few dl and Olb signings like this before the draft and we’re good.

I’m really on the trey burton bandwagon at this moment

Burton is primed to get overpaid, although I do think he is a good player. I bet he gets $6-7M per year.

The question is, will Harris be the same guy we saw with Mahomes against Denver? Because we can work with that guy. But if he is going to be the normal version of himself... we can do better.

jdubya 02-17-2018 12:28 PM

Local Raider fans near me tell me KC better have a good "burn ward" nearby lol. On a serious note, Amerson isn`t bad but just hasn`t seen the field much due to constant injuries, prone to concussions, etc. His first year with the Raiders he looked great and then went downhill the next 2 seasons so we will see.

DaneMcCloud 02-17-2018 12:36 PM

I don’t think Amerson has a shot in hell of being on the field on 1st and 2nd downs unless there’s an injury.

He’s a depth signing, not a starter signing.

Hell, he may not even make the 53.

Easy 6 02-17-2018 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jdubya (Post 13422274)
Local Raider fans near me tell me KC better have a good "burn ward" nearby lol. On a serious note, Amerson isn`t bad but just hasn`t seen the field much due to constant injuries, prone to concussions, etc. His first year with the Raiders he looked great and then went downhill the next 2 seasons so we will see.

Meh, Del Rio runs a shitty ship and always has... Amerson is far from the only player who regressed on his watch

pugsnotdrugs19 02-17-2018 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13422282)
I don’t think Amerson has a shot in hell of being on the field on 1st and 2nd downs unless there’s an injury.

He’s a depth signing, not a starter signing.

Hell, he may not even make the 53.

Well I would assume he makes it if we are for sure on the hook for $2.25M, but I’d say he’s competing with Nelson to start in nickel packages at best. At least we aren’t on the hook for anything after this season. If it doesn’t work out, no big deal. Solid depth corner.

DaneMcCloud 02-17-2018 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13422270)
Burton is primed to get overpaid, although I do think he is a good player. I bet he gets $6-7M per year.

Paying $6-7 million for a tight end, especially since they're paying $9.96 million to Kelce, is a luxury that the Chiefs just can't afford.

They signed Jace Amaro to a Futures Deal and I'd like to see them sign Crockett Gilmore to a one year deal. It's a roll of the dice but if either guy can stay healthy, the Tight End position would be loaded going into 2018.

DaneMcCloud 02-17-2018 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13422285)
Well I would assume he makes it if we are for sure on the hook for $2.25M, but I’d say he’s competing with Nelson to start in nickel packages at best. At least we aren’t on the hook for anything after this season. If it doesn’t work out, no big deal. Solid depth corner.

Have full contract details been released?

I understand that his base is $2.25, with escalators up to $6 million, but as long as there's no guaranteed money (and I'd be surprised if it was anything other than $100k or so), the Chiefs could release him without any cap hit.

All In 02-17-2018 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SAUTO (Post 13422152)
Thats true

Good luck to Phillip in the future also. Sometimes its just not a fit for whatever reason. He definitely has talent

Yes thanks!

gblowfish 02-17-2018 12:51 PM

I was wondering what Phil's mom thought about all this. See that she checked in.

Chief Northman 02-17-2018 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13422286)
Paying $6-7 million for a tight end, especially since they're paying $9.96 million to Kelce, is a luxury that the Chiefs just can't afford.

They signed Jace Amaro to a Futures Deal and I'd like to see them sign Crockett Gilmore to a one year deal. It's a roll of the dice but if either guy can stay healthy, the Tight End position would be loaded going into 2018.

No guarantee Harris gets let go. Andy uses him well. The problem is he cannot become a #1 if Kelce goes down. I can’t see Amaro making the roster. He is too one dimensional. The draft could bear a #2 TE option for the Chiefs that could develop into a #1b option if they want to invest in a guy early.
Stoedert and Hurst are likely out of range, but Gesicki or Fumagalli have a chance to be productive, solid pros.

O.city 02-17-2018 01:01 PM

Yeah burton would be a bit of a luxury but it would make that spot a huge strength as he could play a lot of spots

Shaid 02-17-2018 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 13421271)
Sean smith wasn't a roll of the dice.

He was underperforming and he overperformed while here under contract. We cut bait at the perfect time. I think the Sean Smith comparison is a very good one IF we have him play to the bump and run strength that a guy like this should play at. I assume that's the plan. If it's just to play off coverage, then it's a stupid signing.

RunKC 02-17-2018 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13422289)
Have full contract details been released?

I understand that his base is $2.25, with escalators up to $6 million, but as long as there's no guaranteed money (and I'd be surprised if it was anything other than $100k or so), the Chiefs could release him without any cap hit.

TE is one of the deepest positions in this draft. I would love to get one in the mid rounds.


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