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beach tribe 02-20-2014 07:46 PM

I remember reading the IG series as a kid and thinking it would make the best movie series ever. Never thought they would ever make it though.
It really is a childhood dream come true. Broke out all my old comics not to0o long back and still have them all in perfect condition.

I wonder if they will continue on the Infinity war when it's over.

beach tribe 02-20-2014 08:22 PM

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Bowser 02-20-2014 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 10443243)
Yep, with a black guy Johnny Storm.

Uh, what?

For ****'s sake, just let Marvel have their creations back.

beach tribe 02-20-2014 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10444219)
Uh, what?

For ****'s sake, just let Marvel have their creations back.

Yup. Black Human torch.

Aries Walker 02-20-2014 10:38 PM

Yeah. Making white characters black for the movies is nothing new (Kingpin and Nick Fury are two of the best-represented characters on screen), but . . .

A. They've never changed ethnicities to any other race but black. The more this goes on the more it seems like they're singling it out, which sounds a lot like tokenism.

B. Johnny (the Human Torch) and Sue (Invisible Woman) are brother and sister, and they're apparently keeping that relationship intact. They'll have to explain that somehow, and that elevates the ethnic change from "he just happens to be black" to a storyline change, which reeks even more of tokenism.

C. Why didn't they make Reed black? He'd be a perfect candidate, and . . .

D. The guy playing Reed looks about 12; Reed is in his forties or so and one of his defining characteristics is his greying temples. Also . . .

E. Jamie Bell as the Thing? Jamie Bell was Billy Elliott. I've taken craps bigger than him.

F. Honestly, their biggest problem is that they're basing it off the atrocious fanfiction-y Ultimate series. For those who don't read comics, the 'Ultimate Universe' is a sort of parallel world they invented about 15 years ago. It's terrible - all style with no substance, with stories based mostly on shock value alone while butchering perfectly good characters, and perpetually selling only mediocre numbers but inexplicably still around. The 'Ultimate Fantastic Four' is totally unlike the characters and storyline we know: Reed is a boneless jelly-man who becomes an evil mastermind; Sue married Ben; Johnny sheds his skin periodically and hates being on the team; and Dr. Doom is a small-timer with cloven hooves and acid blood like in Alien.

It's stupidity all around, and I'll call it now: It will be a bad, bad movie. Like, Green Lantern levels of powerful bad. I wish they'd left it alone.

beach tribe 02-20-2014 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Aries Walker (Post 10444349)
Yeah. Making white characters black for the movies is nothing new (Kingpin and Nick Fury are two of the best-represented characters on screen), but . . .

A. They've never changed ethnicities to any other race but black. The more this goes on the more it seems like they're singling it out, which sounds a lot like tokenism.

B. Johnny (the Human Torch) and Sue (Invisible Woman) are brother and sister, and they're apparently keeping that relationship intact. They'll have to explain that somehow, and that elevates the ethnic change from "he just happens to be black" to a storyline change, which reeks even more of tokenism.

C. Why didn't they make Reed black? He'd be a perfect candidate, and . . .

D. The guy playing Reed looks about 12; Reed is in his forties or so and one of his defining characteristics is his greying temples. Also . . .

E. Jamie Bell as the Thing? Jamie Bell was Billy Elliott. I've taken craps bigger than him.

F. Honestly, their biggest problem is that they're basing it off the atrocious fanfiction-y Ultimate series. For those who don't read comics, the 'Ultimate Universe' is a sort of parallel world they invented about 15 years ago. It's terrible - all style with no substance, with stories based mostly on shock value alone while butchering perfectly good characters, and perpetually selling only mediocre numbers but inexplicably still around. The 'Ultimate Fantastic Four' is totally unlike the characters and storyline we know: Reed is a boneless jelly-man who becomes an evil mastermind; Sue married Ben; Johnny sheds his skin periodically and hates being on the team; and Dr. Doom is a small-timer with cloven hooves and acid blood like in Alien.

It's stupidity all around, and I'll call it now: It will be a bad, bad movie. Like, Green Lantern levels of powerful bad. I wish they'd left it alone.

This.

I HATE the alternate universe shit. Dumbest shit Marvel ever did. Leave it to Fox to use that story arc for one of the biggest Marvel groups. So stupid.

The FF movies were horrible. No reason to think they will be any better this time.
Selling those properties and, my God, including the Surfer and Galactus with them, is the biggest mistake marvel has made, by far.

Bowser 02-20-2014 10:45 PM

I'm done with the Fantastic Four and they haven't even filmed a frame yet. Christ.

What's next, the Silver Surfer is going to have a flying droid sidekick that feeds him the Power Cosmic? Galactus is going to be a collective of two dozen ancient Pygmies riding in a giant construct? **** me.

Aries Walker 02-20-2014 10:48 PM

Don't give them any ideas.

beach tribe 02-20-2014 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 10444356)
I'm done with the Fantastic Four and they haven't even filmed a frame yet. Christ.

What's next, the Silver Surfer is going to have a flying droid sidekick that feeds him the Power Cosmic? Galactus is going to be a collective of two dozen ancient Pygmies riding in a giant construct? **** me.

It really is a shame that I have zero interest in seeing a movie that might include the SS and Galactus.
I have zero faith that the movie has any chance what so ever of doing the characters any justice.

Direckshun 02-20-2014 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by keg in kc (Post 10440697)
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God damn it, that looks amazing.

beach tribe 02-20-2014 11:48 PM

I wonder if that object in the first 30 sec. is an infinity gem.
Doubt it, but who knows.

ThaVirus 02-20-2014 11:55 PM

I'm fine with Marvel switching up race and ethnicity of secondary characters. A lot of these comic book characters were created before the civil rights movement so there either were no blacks or they were extremely stereotypical. Seriously, check out early incarnations of Luke Cage/Power Man.

With that said, I'd agree that they should try a bit harder to include a more diverse palate as opposed to basically just making everyone black. Off the top of my head, the only switch I can think of that wasn't white-to-black was the Asian warrior dude from Thor.

.. Speaking of all of this Avengers and Galactus/Thanos stuff, these next few movies would be perfect timing to introduce guys like Luke Cage and Black Panther. Without being able to get the rights to Fantastic Four and the Silver Surfer, I'm not sure where Marvel is planning on getting the firepower to take down a guy like Thanos, especially powered by the Infinity Gauntlet. They did a pretty good job of showing off Stark and Banner's scientific acumen but a guy like Black Panther could fill in for Reed Richard's brilliance in a pinch.

beach tribe 02-21-2014 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10444447)
I'm fine with Marvel switching up race and ethnicity of secondary characters. A lot of these comic book characters were created before the civil rights movement so there either were no blacks or they were extremely stereotypical. Seriously, check out early incarnations of Luke Cage/Power Man.

With that said, I'd agree that they should try a bit harder to include a more diverse palate as opposed to basically just making everyone black. Off the top of my head, the only switch I can think of that wasn't white-to-black was the Asian warrior dude from Thor.

.. Speaking of all of this Avengers and Galactus/Thanos stuff, these next few movies would be perfect timing to introduce guys like Luke Cage and Black Panther. Without being able to get the rights to Fantastic Four and the Silver Surfer, I'm not sure where Marvel is planning on getting the firepower to take down a guy like Thanos, especially powered by the Infinity Gauntlet. They did a pretty good job of showing off Stark and Banner's scientific acumen but a guy like Black Panther could fill in for Reed Richard's brilliance in a pinch.

I'm not sure they are going to be able to make Thanos as powerful as he is in the comics, and even if so, Thanos was tricked into losing the power anyway.
It really doesn't matter who they pit against him, he destroyed even the mighty Eternity with the IG. He is invincible any way you slice it, and will have to be tricked or something for him to lose.
Maybe they will pull what they did when the Magus had the guantlet, and one of the gems will be a fake or something rendering him vulnerable.
It will be interesting to see how they pull it off.

Aries Walker 02-21-2014 05:45 AM

Cage is going to be in the Netflix Defenders series, so they can't use him. And Hogun (the Asian warrior-dude) has always been Asian in the comics; his people were Mongol Horde-like.

Swanman 02-21-2014 09:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ThaVirus (Post 10444447)
I'm fine with Marvel switching up race and ethnicity of secondary characters. A lot of these comic book characters were created before the civil rights movement so there either were no blacks or they were extremely stereotypical. Seriously, check out early incarnations of Luke Cage/Power Man.

With that said, I'd agree that they should try a bit harder to include a more diverse palate as opposed to basically just making everyone black. Off the top of my head, the only switch I can think of that wasn't white-to-black was the Asian warrior dude from Thor.

.. Speaking of all of this Avengers and Galactus/Thanos stuff, these next few movies would be perfect timing to introduce guys like Luke Cage and Black Panther. Without being able to get the rights to Fantastic Four and the Silver Surfer, I'm not sure where Marvel is planning on getting the firepower to take down a guy like Thanos, especially powered by the Infinity Gauntlet. They did a pretty good job of showing off Stark and Banner's scientific acumen but a guy like Black Panther could fill in for Reed Richard's brilliance in a pinch.

Introducing the guardians gives you quite a bit of firepower against Thanos. Although I wish Adam Warlock was in the movie, as he is by far the most powerful Guardian. The movie will also introduce the Nova Corps.

They are probably making movies for Panther and Dr. Strange before Avengers 3, so those two will help quite a bit. Not to mention Antman/Giantman.


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