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Mecca 09-13-2019 08:25 AM

I generally agree that trading picks is a bad idea but he's 22 and you get 4 years of control, that's different than trading for older guys.

htismaqe 09-13-2019 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14444629)
Ummm



Sure sounds like that’s what you were saying.

Is adding a Ward or Lucas significantly different talent wise from what they have?

KChiefs1 09-13-2019 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14444622)
Yeah there’s no way they cleared all that cap room to get another Ward.



No way.

O.city 09-13-2019 08:25 AM

Minkah’s cap hits would be 1, 1.9, and 2 something for the next 3 years


Someone is gonna trade for him I bet

staylor26 09-13-2019 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14444645)
Is adding a Ward or Lucas significantly different talent wise from what they have?

They’re not going to settle for that. They didn’t free up all that cap space for a Ward/Lucas level player dude. Even Terez seems convinced a move is coming.

Dunerdr 09-13-2019 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14444620)
I don’t see Fitzpatrick as anything but a 1st rounder. He’s 22 and has 4 years of cheap control left.

Now, with all this said, I’m not trading for him unless you trust him as an outside CB. That’s what we need, not another safety.

i see where your coming from, but fuller was fair on the boundry some say even better last year. so that gives you breeland and fuller outside, minkah playing slot corner/ some safety like what HB has done in the past, then HB and thornhill. thats a much better looking group than what we have imo.

htismaqe 09-13-2019 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14444651)
They’re not going to do that. They didn’t free up all that cap space for a Ward/Lucas level player dude.

Not one. Last year they acquired 3 or 4 guys like that during the season.

O.city 09-13-2019 08:27 AM

Minkah’s cap hits would be 1, 1.9, and 2 something for the next 3 years


Someone is gonna trade for him I bet

Chris Meck 09-13-2019 08:28 AM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 14444620)
I don’t see Fitzpatrick as anything but a 1st rounder. He’s 22 and has 4 years of cheap control left.

Now, with all this said, I’m not trading for him unless you trust him as an outside CB. That’s what we need, not another safety.

He played much more often as a CB in either the slot or outside than he did at either traditional safety position.

Think of it less like traditional roles and more in terms of overall secondary talent.

Also, think of it less like this is THE move and more like it's A move.

He doesn't affect the cap all that much. THIS isn't what clearing space was about.

staylor26 09-13-2019 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14444657)
Not one. Last year they acquired 3 or 4 guys like that during the season.

So because that’s what they did last year they’re going to do it again?

And they didn’t make most of those moves after the season had already started. What is the purpose of adding another Ward or Scandrick when they’ve already added Claiborne? If they make a move it will be for somebody better than him.

Chris Meck 09-13-2019 08:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dunerdr (Post 14444653)
i see where your coming from, but fuller was fair on the boundry some say even better last year. so that gives you breeland and fuller outside, minkah playing slot corner/ some safety like what HB has done in the past, then HB and thornhill. thats a much better looking group than what we have imo.

This is what I'm saying.

It's very useful to have four guys who can line up anywhere. It's confusing for an offense. You don't know before the play-call where which guys are going to be. You're not sure where your mismatches are.

I like this idea a lot.

Mile High Mania 09-13-2019 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 14444658)
Minkah’s cap hits would be 1, 1.9, and 2 something for the next 3 years


Someone is gonna trade for him I bet

I would imagine half the teams in the league are looking for a good deal on him...

htismaqe 09-13-2019 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 14444667)
So because that’s what they did last year they’re going to do it again?

And they didn’t make most of those moves after the season had already started. What is the purpose of adding another Ward or Scandrick when they’ve already added Claiborne? If they make a move it will be for somebody better than him.

I don’t think they’re going to make a move. I think you all should come to terms with what is already here. Said that already. ;)

Chris Meck 09-13-2019 08:36 AM

Another way to look at it-

It's always said that successful NFL teams draft best player available and not for need. So; if according to the trade chart, next year's number one pick is equal to this year's number two pick...wouldn't you trade this year's number two pick for four years controlled of Minkah Fitzpatrick? I would.

Chris Meck 09-13-2019 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 14444679)
I don’t think they’re going to make a move. I think you all should come to terms with what is already here. Said that already. ;)

You think they cleared that cap space for no reason?


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