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Sure-Oz 08-10-2017 10:17 AM

Is Cahill hurt? Is it mental now that the games are all for real unlike in SD

DeepSouth 08-10-2017 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13002110)
Well?

My theory is, Average pitchers in the NL don't always do well in the AL. They are used to having an automatic out every 9th batter. None of the three guys from the Padres are doing well. Even Kennedy seems to have had his best years playing in the NL.

duncan_idaho 08-10-2017 11:05 AM

I was encouraged by the peripherals on Cahill's breaking ball, which was generating big whiff percentages in his action earlier this year.

It was a small sample, but it looked like his slider/curveball combination had unlocked something. Disappointing.


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Mama Hip Rockets 08-10-2017 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by mikeyis4dcats. (Post 13002261)
his name is Whitley dumbass.

That is a terrible name.

BWillie 08-10-2017 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by thurman merman (Post 13002125)
Why do people like Maurer so much? What a disaster.

He throws very hard! He must be good!

Bufkin 08-10-2017 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 13002467)
He throws very hard! He must be good!

Exactly! Just like Kyle Farnsworth!

Nightfyre 08-10-2017 01:35 PM

Maybe it's just me, but I would wait a couple more weeks for Dave Eiland to work with these projects before I throw in the towel.

Discuss Thrower 08-10-2017 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 13002599)
Maybe it's just me, but I would wait a couple more weeks for Dave Eiland to work with these projects before I throw in the towel.

They don't have weeks to work on projects.

If they can't win at least 8 out of the next 13 games their season is over.

penbrook 08-10-2017 01:52 PM

We're about to get passed over in the standings by the Twins!

KCUnited 08-10-2017 01:58 PM

Twins are in the rearview!

siberian khatru 08-10-2017 02:06 PM

SURPRISE!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Royals put Trevor Cahill on disabled list and recall Kevin McCarthy. Royals say Cahill has right shoulder impingement.</p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@FlannyMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlannyMLB/status/895736225021165568">August 10, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Prison Bitch 08-10-2017 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 13002618)
We're about to get passed over in the standings by the Twins!

That happens when you go 2-8

siberian khatru 08-10-2017 02:06 PM

A.J. Preller strikes again!

Bowser 08-10-2017 02:07 PM

Is it too late to sell?

Prison Bitch 08-10-2017 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 13002650)
Is it too late to sell?

Sell what? We don't have jack shit to sell.


We could possibly sell Moose and Hoz for grade C prospects. Just to get rid of salary.


Jay Bruce (29 home runs, 120 wRC+ so = our duo) was just picked up for free. Well, a top-30 Cleve prospect. There is zero market for batters.

ChiTown 08-10-2017 02:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 13002646)
SURPRISE!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Royals put Trevor Cahill on disabled list and recall Kevin McCarthy. Royals say Cahill has right shoulder impingement.</p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@FlannyMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlannyMLB/status/895736225021165568">August 10, 2017</a></blockquote>
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penbrook 08-10-2017 03:12 PM

So Cahill goes on the DL but Junis isn't called up? Makes sense...

siberian khatru 08-10-2017 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 13002770)
So Cahill goes on the DL but Junis isn't called up? Makes sense...

They don't need a starter until Cahill's turn comes up again in 5 days. When that happens, McCarthy (probably) will be sent down and Junis will be back up.

mr. tegu 08-10-2017 03:38 PM

This is probably for the best.

jimidollar 08-10-2017 03:39 PM

This season took a big shit this month. Maybe they've got one last push in them?

Discuss Thrower 08-10-2017 03:40 PM

So apparently the Padres are less than honest with players they trade when it comes to injuries...

Al Bundy 08-10-2017 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by siberian khatru (Post 13002646)
SURPRISE!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Royals put Trevor Cahill on disabled list and recall Kevin McCarthy. Royals say Cahill has right shoulder impingement.</p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@FlannyMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlannyMLB/status/895736225021165568">August 10, 2017</a></blockquote>
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So the Royals traded for a guy with a bum shoulder AND a guy that came to the Royals needing surgery all in the same 8 months? lol

DJJasonp 08-10-2017 04:50 PM

Random stat of the day....

Of the top 10 RBI guy's in the AL right now, eight of them have 40 or more walks.

Moose is in that top 10 with 73 RBIs....but the lowest walks total of the group with 19!


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RealSNR 08-10-2017 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 13002826)
So the Royals traded for a guy with a bum shoulder AND a guy that came to the Royals needing surgery all in the same 8 months? lol

And he's a rental, too

SAUTO 08-10-2017 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 13002826)
So the Royals traded for a guy with a bum shoulder AND a guy that came to the Royals needing surgery all in the same 8 months? lol

Wtf is a "same 8 months"?

Prison Bitch 08-10-2017 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJJasonp (Post 13002923)
Random stat of the day....

Of the top 10 RBI guy's in the AL right now, eight of them have 40 or more walks.

Moose is in that top 10 with 73 RBIs....but the lowest walks total of the group with 19!


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He's swinging a lot on pitch 1 and mashing them, .343 avg. so it's all good. Hisnopponfield approach was reeruned regardless what HUD said. His power needed to be unleashed



Royals knew Cahill had shoulder issues, took a gamble. It didn't work out. It happens. But the bullpen guys are awful hideous bums. DM should be pissed about that

TLO 08-10-2017 08:08 PM

It was a fun season, men. Kept it interesting all the way up to the Chiefs first preseason game.

The Royals are a .500 team. That's the number they'll be at for the remainder of the season.

I hope I'm served a big dish of crow in October, but I doubt it.

mr. tegu 08-10-2017 08:10 PM

Yeah I don't believe it's an overeaction to state the playoffs are pretty much out of the question at this point. We just don't have the pitching. I would love to be convinced otherwise though.

Discuss Thrower 08-10-2017 08:11 PM

Forget the playoffs, the only question is how long will it take to rebuild the team to respectability once Cain / Hosmer / Moustakas walk.

BWillie 08-10-2017 08:12 PM

Thank god we have Alexander & Mccarthy to provide a solid pen in the future when we cant get any leads after this year

tk13 08-10-2017 09:07 PM

People have written the obituary for this team about 100 times this season. There is a long way to go and this team is way too unpredictable to really know. At this point they could finish 10 games under .500 or win 90 games and I would not be surprised by either result.

lewdog 08-10-2017 09:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13003765)
People have written the obituary for this team about 100 times this season. There is a long way to go and this team is way too unpredictable to really know. At this point they could finish 10 games under .500 or win 90 games and I would not be surprised by either result.

Season's over man.

That was the deciding game. Game number 114.

/Al Bundy

BWillie 08-10-2017 09:11 PM

We've got a chance, but it can't be more than 20%.

TomBarndtsTwin 08-10-2017 09:13 PM

I don't think the seasons over necessarily, but this is a .500 ballclub. Last year and this year have proved that.

Now, could they go on a run in September and squeak into the playoffs as the second Wildcard? It's possible.

But I wouldn't hold my breath . . . . .

tk13 08-10-2017 09:20 PM

This team came back from being completely dead in April, this is nothing compared to that. I have no idea what to do about the bullpen though. It is going to be a problem. I think they need to make some kind of move to shake things up.

That said, we have about the easiest schedule left of most of the playoff contenders. We still have to play the Indians 10 times, and the White Sox 9. Plenty of opportunity to right the ship. If I'm not mistaken, we actually don't have another road series against a playoff team the rest of the season... except for the Cleveland games.

I'm actually not sure we have another road series against a team that currently has a winning record for that matter, except Cleveland.

Al Bundy 08-10-2017 09:25 PM

Royals back in 3rd place behind a team that sold.....

mr. tegu 08-10-2017 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13003815)
This team came back from being completely dead in April, this is nothing compared to that. I have no idea what to do about the bullpen though. It is going to be a problem. I think they need to make some kind of move to shake things up.

That said, we have about the easiest schedule left of most of the playoff contenders. We still have to play the Indians 10 times, and the White Sox 9. Plenty of opportunity to right the ship. If I'm not mistaken, we actually don't have another road series against a playoff team the rest of the season... except for the Cleveland games.

I'm actually not sure we have another road series against a team with a winning record, except Cleveland.

I can agree we could make a run at it, but that is only based on the team's history, and not really on how they are playing or especially not based the pitching. I don't really see how it gets better, which is really the main issue.

BWillie 08-10-2017 09:25 PM

I'm going to Cleveland second weekend in September. That will jump start us into the playoffs. BWillie luck.

tk13 08-10-2017 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 13003826)
I can agree we could make a run at it, but that is only based on the team's history, and not really on how they are playing or especially not based the pitching. I don't really see how it gets better, which is really the main issue.

I don't mean to be flippant, but sometimes baseball doesn't make a lick of sense. This team looked like a 120 loss team in April. They kind of look like that now. Then when they've played well they look like they could beat anyone. They beat the Astros when they were on fire.

It's the complete opposite of football. Especially with this team. You just ride the wave and hope they get back on their feet, and this team will feed off that confidence and run with it. It probably isn't going to make sense.

It's entirely possible the bullpen is out of gas though, for sure.

Sure-Oz 08-11-2017 06:25 AM

The middle relief is just killing this team. Really hope they can get out of this horrid stretch and pull out some wins.

Prison Bitch 08-11-2017 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Al Bundy (Post 13003825)
Royals back in 3rd place behind a team that sold.....

DM has had a terrible last 2 years. Everything he's done has gone straight to shit.



Oh - and does this finally end the myth he can "build a bullpen"? His bullpen is pure garbage. Worst in MLB, other than maybe the Reds

siberian khatru 08-11-2017 08:21 AM

Marco Estrada has had three straight excellent starts, pitching 7 innings in each one. Word is the Mariners are eyeing him. Should the Royals jump in?

duncan_idaho 08-11-2017 09:22 AM

*** Official 2017 Royals Repository ***
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13004249)
DM has had a terrible last 2 years. Everything he's done has gone straight to shit.







Oh - and does this finally end the myth he can "build a bullpen"? His bullpen is pure garbage. Worst in MLB, other than maybe the Reds


He has not had a good two years. Paying for everything in 15 going right, I think.

But that "myth" you speak to hasn't been proven a myth yet. The Royals reliever ERA is 13th. The only metric where the pen has struggled and is in the bottom of the league is in walks.

ERA Ranks the previous five seasons:
5
2
10
2
6

Aggregate rank: 1

No bullpen has a lower ERA over that time period. No bullpen has more fWAR.

Basically, the Royals bullpen has been so good the previous five years, having one that is roughly league average feels like having the worst pen in the league.

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Prison Bitch 08-11-2017 10:43 AM

Not just fWAR. It's really the leverage index scores that made us so dominant. From 13-16, with the HDH core (but also with valuable giysbloke Hoch, Madison, Fraser, Collins, franklin morales) our WPA was #1.


But our non-leverage index scores ("true talent") are absurd. 21.19 score vs Orioles 13.10 in 2nd. That gap = the drop from Orioles to #16. Run Expectancy the same (250 vs Orioles 162, gap down to #11)



At any rate, the fact he has NOBODY worth a shit now is troubling to say the least. But what's worse: he got zero value from them via trades/releases.

carcosa 08-11-2017 10:48 AM

So, the Royals probably don't HAVE TO sweep the Sox and A's.... but.... they kinda have to sweep the Sox and A's, right?

Not in the sense that they'll definitely be out of it if they don't, but more like they won't get many more chances to make up a lot of ground by playing very bad teams.

Prison Bitch 08-11-2017 10:50 AM

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Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13004508)
So, the Royals probably don't HAVE TO sweep the Sox and A's.... but.... they kinda have to sweep the Sox and A's, right?

Not in the sense that they'll definitely be out of it if they don't, but more like they won't get many more chances to make up a lot of ground by playing very bad teams.

First off, WE are the bad team. At least today.


Second, all 3 teams at the top of the WC standings are expected to finish with 81 wins. If we had done ANYTHING other than go 2-9 we'd be the faves

penbrook 08-11-2017 11:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13004514)
First off, WE are the bad team. At least today.


Second, all 3 teams at the top of the WC standings are expected to finish with 81 wins. If we had done ANYTHING other than go 2-9 we'd be the faves

Funny thing is that we are only a game back from the wild card.

Discuss Thrower 08-11-2017 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by carcosa (Post 13004508)
So, the Royals probably don't HAVE TO sweep the Sox and A's.... but.... they kinda have to sweep the Sox and A's, right?

Not in the sense that they'll definitely be out of it if they don't, but more like they won't get many more chances to make up a lot of ground by playing very bad teams.

.600 gets them to 85 wins.

penbrook 08-11-2017 05:14 PM

No GDT?

Why Not? 08-11-2017 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 13005301)
No GDT?

Honestly most people gonna be following the Chiefs game. Royals need to do something worth giving a shit about over the next few days to get people re-invested.

lewdog 08-11-2017 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 13005301)
No GDT?

I'm on it.

Lewdog loves Friday night games!!

Prison Bitch 08-11-2017 10:45 PM

We were beaten by a guy named BUMMER


Not kidding

Sure-Oz 08-12-2017 07:32 AM

This looks over right now... unbelievable how far they've fallen since making the trades

jimidollar 08-12-2017 08:07 AM

Got infected by the scum from the Padres. Not too worry, if we can rip off 5 or 6 in a row we're right back in it.

Bufkin 08-12-2017 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jimidollar (Post 13007531)
Got infected by the scum from the Padres. Not too worry, if we can rip off 5 or 6 in a row we're right back in it.

I really hope we don't. I can't take anymore false hope this year. End the season somewhat gracefully and let's start this 30 year rebuild. Since the deadline, this team couldn't beat the Sweeney led 2005 Royals.

mcaj22 08-12-2017 09:10 AM

I can't believe those turds they got from the Padres and their infectious stink and suck is what brings an end to this era of Royals baseball.

Prison Bitch 08-12-2017 09:30 AM

DM is what brought an end to the run, sad to say. Had he kept Dyson and davis we'd be leading the WC. Neither player he got back has done shit.



He also left the farm system in current disarray. DM had an unreal run but a replacement needs to be groomed

Chiefspants 08-12-2017 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13007660)
DM is what brought an end to the run, sad to say. Had he kept Dyson and davis we'd be leading the WC. Neither player he got back has done shit.



He also left the farm system in current disarray. DM had an unreal run but a replacement needs to be groomed

Sad!

penbrook 08-12-2017 11:12 AM

Team chemistry is key! Gotta keep the core together

penbrook 08-12-2017 12:19 PM

We need to go on a 8-2 run like now! 5 games back from Cleveland and 1.5 from the wild card

Why Not? 08-12-2017 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 13007944)
We need to go on a 8-2 run like now! 5 games back from Cleveland and 1.5 from the wild card

We can probably forget about Cleveland for a while. If we sweep them while 5 or less games back, then the division can be in play but for now, time to join the 37 other teams going for the 2nd WC. Or, how about, just beat the ****ing White Sox?????

KChiefs1 08-12-2017 12:47 PM

One game at a time.
Just win baby!

penbrook 08-12-2017 03:56 PM

Should there even be a GDT?

WhawhaWhat 08-12-2017 04:05 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hunter Dozier has had a rough year. Oblique strain, broken hamate bone, and week ago suffered fractured nose. Playing through it at Double-A</p>&mdash; Jeffrey Flanagan (@FlannyMLB) <a href="https://twitter.com/FlannyMLB/status/896487609123393542">August 12, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Bowser 08-12-2017 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 13008298)
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The 2017 KC Royals in a nutshell

PHOG 08-12-2017 04:11 PM

It's past time to start another winning streak, starting tonight. :thumb:

penbrook 08-12-2017 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 13008308)
It's past time to start another winning streak, starting tonight. :thumb:

Someone new should start a GDT

cabletech94 08-12-2017 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 13008346)
Someone new should start a GDT

i got this!

penbrook 08-12-2017 04:49 PM

Brewers trade for Neil Walker. Meanwhile we sit on our hands and don't do anything about the starting pitching or bullpen

KChiefs1 08-12-2017 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 13008281)
Should there even be a GDT?



Does it matter anymore?

I can't believe this team went from sitting solid in the playoffs to now having to need another 9 game winning streak.

tk13 08-12-2017 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 13008375)
Brewers trade for Neil Walker. Meanwhile we sit on our hands and don't do anything about the starting pitching or bullpen

Neil Walker is a second baseman.

penbrook 08-12-2017 04:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13008379)
Does it matter anymore?

I can't believe this team went from sitting solid in the playoffs to now having to need another 9 game winning streak.

We are very capable of a 9 game winning streak! Sit back and enjoy the ride

penbrook 08-12-2017 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tk13 (Post 13008388)
Neil Walker is a second baseman.

Point is other people are making moves and we're not

Prison Bitch 08-12-2017 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 13008391)
Point is other people are making moves and we're not

You want DM making moves?

tk13 08-12-2017 05:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by penbrook (Post 13008391)
Point is other people are making moves and we're not

I think they should make a move but it's not like we're in control. You can only trade for a guy after he's been put through waivers. And then nobody else has to claim him first.

penbrook 08-12-2017 06:49 PM

Jay Bruce good pickup for the tribe

Why Not? 08-12-2017 07:05 PM

If the Royals end up with 3 runs total, this game is a loss

Jerok 08-12-2017 08:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Why Not? (Post 13008558)
If the Royals end up with 3 runs total, this game is a loss

So you're saying we have to score more runs than the other team to win? Never thought about it like that.

Why Not? 08-13-2017 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jerok (Post 13008812)
So you're saying we have to score more runs than the other team to win? Never thought about it like that.

I appreciate good sarcasm as much as the next guy, but alas, as it was 3-2 Royals at the time I made this post, And my post turned out to be 100% accurate I must request that you **** right off!







Just busting your chops. But I posted originally(and accidentally as I was aiming for the GDT)right after Abreu 2nd homer made it 3-2

penbrook 08-13-2017 05:24 PM

Without looking what place are the Royals in the MLB for most runs scored as a offense


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