Then why was Sly James begging Mizzou to stay?

Here's the thing. KU, KSU and ISU fans all benefit from it staying in KC, but seven other schools don't. There's no way the Big XII as a whole supports it and there's no way those three schools would put up much of a fight to try. More of a "it sucks, but what are you going to do, reward Missouri?"

I've been to OKC Bricktown. If they decide to settle in there and give them a chance to make it there own, it could still be a great event. It will never be KC, but, that's one of the traditions that gets tossed aside in these 100 year decisions.

Because he's scared that their departure will further destabilize the conference, thus jeopardizing the standing of the proud purple.

Y'know - I've always thought in relation to sports, if other fans are hating on your team, it means you're doing something right.

The ridiculous predictions (i.e. Mizzou will be the Iowa State of the SEC) & the amount of venom and anger being spewed towards Mizzou reinforces the thought we're 100% making the correct move here.

Holy shit, you're trying way too hard. The fans have no say in this.

So you can be next to irrelevant in another conference while trying to invent new rivalries with Arkansas. Oh, wait, they'll be in the West. Whose gonna hate you there?

How is quitting on a conference the right thing? Hell, the SEC schools have voted to keep MU out.

Irrelevant? Have you looked at the SEC East lately?

We could compete in that division today.

Could care less if anyone "hates" us.

You aren't even competing in the Big XII. You should know better than to look at any one year and judge how you are going to fare. Not many spread teams down south, good luck.

Exactly. The commissioner and university presidents are going to sit around, discussing which irrelevant university to admit into the conference. Because, shit, it's fun!

I must have missed all of the venom & anger.

No it's because Kansas City would lose the Big XII tournament.

We're leaving the conference for a more stable situation, with a tremendous potential upside financially.

If you truely believe the SEC schools have voted to keep MU out, I've got some swampland I'll sell you in Florida.

I don't think it will. He's scared shitless, though, that's for sure.

Much like you are currently competing with KU & ISU for worst in the Big 12. Congrats man!

Better get that NBA team that they promised.

You and I both know the "attractiveness" of Mizzou lies in its potential TV markets. Don't get me wrong, you're not awful, but your athletic reputation is not why the SEC is being coerced into accepting you.

I guess we have different definitions of "competing".

40 wins in 4 years sounds like competing to me, but maybe I'm off my rocker.

No doubt we'll have to adjust many of our approaches, both on and off the field - but I don't think that's a reason not to go.

Stable? It's just begun. Being the low man on the totem pole is not stability.

The SEC conference needs 9 votes to accept MU. They started with 7 and twisted arms to get it to 8. Still, a no-go.

You guys are funny.

I'm sorry you don't have an offer - I really am, but don't act like kU or k-state would stay loyal to the Big 9 if they had a potential offer.

so you're saying the SEC doesn't date her because she's pretty, but because she does anal?

Wait, so the fans want to keep it at the Sprint Center? Is that what you are saying?

If you don't think that's a product of playing in the Big XII North for many years, then you keep sucking that pacifier. Anyone knows a dynamic playmaker at QB can lift any team, and you had a good run of them. Its fool's gold to believe that type of player will always be there for you.

'Bama was one of the holdouts, but are "all-in" as long as Missouri is in the East (which I think will happen).

Last I had heard, we had at least 9 votes - but maybe you have better inside sources than I do. I suppose one of us will "right" in the next couple of weeks.

for my own selfish reasons I like the Sprint Center, it's close, and all.

But I'd be totally fine with it in OKC as well. But I don't expect it will stay there, no.

3 games seems like a large enough sample size. You got us! :thumb:

Pure domination.

You're losing me - so now we're competing, but only because we were in the North?

I thought we didn't "compete" at all?

Oh hey! Welcome back.

I'm saying the SEC's is making them marry her because she has "huge tracts of 'TV Markets'". :evil:

Get used to this moving of the goal posts. It is a long and winding road of rationalizations.

MU in the east is a joke, but when you're the cowering puppy I guess it's as good as anything.

It's a money deal from both sides. Mizzou brings two major television markets, solid athletic programs, with exceptional facilities, and a strong academic reputation.

In many ways, A&M and Mizzou are comparable entities.

Hey, I can only go with the #'s I see in front of me. I'm sure things will turn around though and you'll dominate your way to middle of the pack by end of year.

How did you do against the South those years? The Big XII South that is, you know, OU and Texas?

The "cowering puppy" that's bouncing on the Big 12? But the rest of the league doesn't care, so that's cool.

But inviting BYU and West Virginia into a midwestern conference is practical and prudent.

You are on your game today.

You're a sweetie!

Well, I live here, so I'd rather reward KCMO for KCMO's sake... and I'd rather the Big 12 not give up on KC just because of a state line. I get the business side of it, saying it's no longer a Big 12 state, etc; and while having the BB tournament or Farmageddon here every once in a while might be viewed as funding the enemy, it isn't exactly funding the Nazis.

Good "cultural fits." The Big 12 has always been a proud supporter of Mormons the world over.

:)

I guess you could also use results in recent years to increase the sample size to come up with a more realistic estimate, but clearly you were not a Math major.

How the **** would I know? I want to keep it there, that's all I know.

We've always known MU will fit perfectly into a hillbilly conference. There's no doubt about that.

What's the drive to the closest team in the SEC East? Eight hours?

MU hillbillies don't travel well, it's a known fact. Just look at attendance for sports in Columbia.

Sure, we can look at the past 30 years or so.....


8 - 8+ win seasons (5 of which have been the past 5 years)
19 - 5 or less win seasons


Pure domination.

You're clearly the geography major. You tell me.

Like I said, I feel bad for KC. The thing about KC that you could almost count on, is that some local team would gobble up tickets. Kids from campus could go there on a chance to get seats. OSU has basketball history, but the state is largely football oriented. Its changed a bit since the Thunder got there, and I think it would do well there. It'll never be KC, but things change. MU can talk about stability all it wants, but the Big XII could be just as stable. It will always be a target because it has good teams and no real geographic boundaries (not hemmed in by oceans or desert expanse.

As soon as TCU announced it was joining, I've become rather apathetic about MU leaving. That doesn't mean I don't care about what happens to KC. If they could move the Sprint Center, that would be great, but since that can't happen, they'll just end up one of the victims, hoping it gets some NCAA considerations in the years to come.

It's 2nd grade math. I'm sure you don't get that.

You guys are irrelevant and generally shitty, which is why a better conference wants to add you. /other fans

/Big 10 snub

You're not generally shitty and you do have a lot of TVs and you're academically sound. You're a much better prize than Kansas when it comes to conference expansion. Congrats! Are you making a trophy?

We need more analogies people.

Also, I haven't heard ballsack mentioned yet today.

Gary Pinkel is 80-52 and 43-40 in his career, which includes some lean years at the beginning when he took over a down program.

Not domination, but certainly competitive which was originally the point. We'll take it.

See, easyb, if you want butthurt, Holy hand "gernade" is butthurt.

Essentially we should all just focus on the past 5 years....check.

MU is afraid of competition in the Big 12, so they are leaving for the toughest conference in the country.

Here's a math question you could help me out with. What would Mizzou's annual revenue be with a $12MM bump? The numbers are getting just too crazy, I need someone to double-check my math.

Minus this year.

More reasonable than using stats from the 1960's and 1970's to build your case for being competitive in the present, yes?

ROFL

Check.

When I mentioned Gary Pinkel's career record, I meant to say that was his career record. Career would include this year, when we lost to three ranked teams on the road. Good burn attempt though. Did Bevo let you type that?

You called me a math major and yet you think the past 30 years includes the 60's & 70's? :facepalm:

The past 30 years would be: 1981-2011.

Yeah, it a good thing you won't be playing ranked teams on the road in the SEC. Nobody ever wins those :facepalm:

I'd like MU to stay, but if they do no big deal. In comes another patsy for OU to beatdown 90% of the time.

No, everyone wins their ranked road games in the SEC. That's why everyone finishes with an undefeated record there. Right?

LMAO

You're pwning hard, mang.

No one is ranked in the SEC.

check

WTF?

Don't you see?

If everyone won on the road they would all be undefeated.

duh, math again

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You can go back 15 years and show that Alabama isn't that great of a program if you want. You'll look dumb, but that's nothing new.

So we want to use 80's and 90's results to interpret how relevant or competitive a team is in the present? No one on the current staff was even with the program then. How exactly would that be a reliable indicator instead of just using our current staff's results?

You are trying way too hard.

We snubbed the Big 10 by turning down their offer for junior membership this year.

Ehhhh. I think they have a pretty good tradition of winning national titles.

ku fan mocking anyone about getting snubbed is pure comedy gold.

Is this something one of the DeArmonds claimed? Didn't someone let it slip out that MU really wanted B1G but would have to settle for the SEC?

Link?

Since 1991, Alabama has a record of 173-77....of those wins, 30 were vacated. MU in all their dominance is 2 games above .500 at 119-117.

I can see what you're saying.