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mikeyis4dcats. 07-20-2018 10:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Pogue (Post 13636658)
It shouldn’t matter how close to the dock the boat was, the captain should know the boat can’t hold up in those conditions. Why not have the wind at your back and just beach it?

No one is going to risk turning that thing around when you are 450' from the dock and 1.75 miles from the far shore.

Hoover 07-20-2018 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by Cave Johnson (Post 13636636)
1) They absolutely have liability insurance

2) Herschends are minority owners
Ripley Entertainment bought the Branson ducks last year.

thebrad84 07-20-2018 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by Pogue (Post 13636658)
It shouldn’t matter how close to the dock the boat was, the captain should know the boat can’t hold up in those conditions. Why not have the wind at your back and just beach it?
You are aware that another duck boat was out in the exact same conditions, about 25 yards ahead, the captain of which was doing the exact same thing, and was able to ride the storm out and safely dock it?

stumppy 07-20-2018 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Dartgod (Post 13636590)
Here's the radar loop when this all went down.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Branson was under a severe thunderstorm warning issued shortly after 6:30 p.m. (7:30 p.m. ET), about half an hour before the boat capsized. <a href="https://t.co/MABgacUimV">https://t.co/MABgacUimV</a> <a href="https://t.co/V7XVsFgP7Q">pic.twitter.com/V7XVsFgP7Q</a></p>&mdash; CNN Weather Center (@CNNweather) <a href="https://twitter.com/CNNweather/status/1020303681248473089?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">July 20, 2018</a></blockquote>
<script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yea, I wouldn't be surprised to see some criminal charges come from this.

cooper barrett 07-20-2018 11:04 AM
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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13636532)
These stupid duck boats are known to be dangerous. There's been quite a few tragedies involving these kinds of boats.
I think all boats are known to be dangerous... :D:D:D:D:D

It wasn't the boat that caused the deaths, it was the failure of the Dispacher/ Supervisor to keep the boats out of the water during a storm event. The driver/ pilot may have been given/ had the last call or responsibility for the decision to enter the water. If the radar/weather reports said it was coming (alerts sounded) they should have acknowledged it and not gone on visual data. The legal actions should be right up there with the IN State fair/ Sugerland stage collapse lawsuits.

The Ducks owner is right: The boat should not have been in the water.

Hoover 07-20-2018 11:07 AM
I think the problem is that someone OKed the two Ducks to enter the water with a major strom moving in. The dude piloting the one I was on last week said its difficult to exit the lake when the Branson Belle paddelwheel is going because of the under current it creates. These conditions were like 100x times that.

Pogue 07-20-2018 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by thebrad84 (Post 13636673)
You are aware that another duck boat was out in the exact same conditions, about 25 yards ahead, the captain of which was doing the exact same thing, and was able to ride the storm out and safely dock it?
Would you say that was a smart move considering the fate of the other boat?

Flying High D 07-20-2018 11:22 AM
The captain survived, the driver didn’t.

Halfcan 07-20-2018 11:23 AM
They are saying that 17 are dead including kids. The video of it is heartbreaking.

Makes you wonder if people have any common sense. You don't go out on the water with a storm approaching-period. Why would these people get in there with their kids and why in the world would the drivers do it as well? They live at the lake and know how dangerous it is during storms. What a tragedy, one that could have easily been avoided.

thebrad84 07-20-2018 11:24 AM
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Originally Posted by Pogue (Post 13636706)
Would you say that was a smart move considering the fate of the other boat?
I posted this above..

Hindsight is always 20/20. He had every reason to initially believe the best move was to "ride the storm out" and not slam in to the docks/shore and throw passengers around. The possibility of capsizing likely didn't even cross his mind until that last minute or two, at which point they were already ****ed. Only thing at that point that could have saved lives is his announcement to abandon ship.

ptlyon 07-20-2018 11:25 AM
Yeah, well, what about lightening?

RockChalk 07-20-2018 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by Pogue (Post 13636658)
It shouldn’t matter how close to the dock the boat was, the captain should know the boat can’t hold up in those conditions. Why not have the wind at your back and just beach it?
How the **** would the captain know whether it would hold up or not? You think he navigates those things in 60+mph winds on a weekly basis? He probably has never gone through anything like that before and saw another boat (the exact same ****ing model) charging on ahead that ended up making. By the time he realized it was going down, it was too late.

Kindly STFO and quit being the typical internet dipshit that would have saved the day if he had been there. You weren't in that situation, never will be in that situation, so you have no ****ing clue what you're talking about.

tk13 07-20-2018 11:31 AM
That video is brutal. I'd have to agree in some ways seeing that other boat make it might have been the worst thing that could happen, because then they thought they could make it to shore too. I really think 99.9% of people would've done the same thing having seen the other boat make it. If you're out there on your own maybe they make a different decision.

Flying High D 07-20-2018 11:33 AM
Victims ages range from 1 to 70.

Dartgod 07-20-2018 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 13636727)
They are saying that 17 are dead including kids. The video of it is heartbreaking.

Makes you wonder if people have any common sense. You don't go out on the water with a storm approaching-period. Why would these people get in there with their kids and why in the world would the drivers do it as well? They live at the lake and know how dangerous it is during storms. What a tragedy, one that could have easily been avoided.
We don't know how long they had been on the water. The reports say that the severe t-storm warning was given 30 minutes before they capsized.

Does anyone know how long those tours usually are? I assume they are at least an hour.


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