Yea, that's an insane haul.

Then they doubled down on stupid:

Not only did Cleveland trade three first-round picks to add the quarterback, but they immediately signed him to an unprecedented fully guaranteed five-year, $230 million contract.

Wow

I used to think the Russ trade and contract was the worst of all time, but my god, how can you beat the Watson trade? 3 first round picks, among many others, and a market resetting fully guaranteed contract? And in the middle of the allegations?

God, only the Browns.

I can't think of anything close to that with the exception of Hershel Walker but even that trade was miles apart from the Browns stupidity. :rolleyes:

I'll still favor the bills trading the 10th pick to us as the greatest haul ever. Best qb ever and the 3 superbowl rings and 2 mvps and counting...

Bills gifting us Mahomes and settling for a lesser QB in Allen is just as disastrous

Very true. At least Hershel was great though.
Plus, the money they gave Watson hurt them so bad financially


The really crazy part is the browns actually made the playoffs last year with having to play so many starting QB’s!

The Browns clinched a playoff berth in Week 17 to become the first team in NFL history to make the playoffs after starting four different quarterbacks in a season. For Sunday's season finale against the the Bengals, Cleveland will make it five different starting quarterbacks.

Crazy

When you miss out on the greatest player ever it has to be #1

Missing on mahomes is worst mistake ever for rest of nfl

and Mahomes changed everything... A talent like Mahomes will never go that low again. Teams, since Mahomes, reach. Just like this year 4-5 QBs in the top 10. Just crazy how everyone is looking for the next Mahomes, but in the voice of the late great Meatloaf, there is no "Coupe De Ville in the bottom of a Cracker Jack Box"...

Terrible ownership. Their owner hired a defensive head coach and let him run the draft in 2017 despite having no front office background, scouting experience, or even pro personnel work on his resume.


And the QB Mcdermott liked was Mitch Trubisky.

Goddamn the NFL has aged Marcus Mariota. He just turned 30 and looks like he’s been in the Oval Office for 1 term

You stole that comment from a meme floating around facebook today

Honestly if they had just stuck with Baker imagine how stacked that team would be.

They are out of their ****ing minds.

and in 3 years that pick will help beat the 49ers for the 3rd time in The Superbowl.

I was reading Mike Williams' Wikipedia page and every year in his career, his best game of the year was against the.........CHIEFS!

That guy is a top 3 Chief killer. Gabe Davis too like Shannon Sharpe when we faced Elway.

Must've been a clerical error.

The Broncos safety formerly known as Justin Simmons was also pretty effective against this team.

So many receivers greatest career games came against Chiefs.

I remember some turd from Dallas had like 240 against us and never did much else.

I remember seeing so many records that occured against us during the dark days.

Ah yes, the Miles Austin game.

Guy went for 250 against us then 175 against Atlanta the following week and for 3 more years afterwards people still thought the guy was hot shit.

Naw - he just scorched a couple of lousy defenses.

Run you gotta respond lol

And just think... he could have been had for a second rounder if anyone listened to the CP draft lounge.

All you have to ask yourself is "how much in addition to all that would Houston trade to get Mahomes?"

I mean.....If you want an elite WR, you either draft one or you trade for one. They don't hit FA.

The best WR to hit FA the past couple years has been who?

Feels weird to say this, but I'd feel a lot better if we went ahead and got Donovan Smith under contract here soon.

We sort of have a gaping hole at LT at the moment.

I'm sure they are in communication with him. I haven't seen a single thing about him taking any visits so I'm sure we'll be able to get him back if we want. Luckily for us, he had a season just good enough to make us want to keep him, but not good enough to get a huge deal.

Yeah, I said this too.

He wasn’t very good in the Super Bowl, but he was fine most the year.

No issues with another reasonable 1-year deal.

We simply aren’t going to be drafting high enough to grab a blue chip LT prospect ever. We’ll probably need to keep signing 1-year vets until we get lucky and hit on a draft pick in the late first or second.

LT is likely what we're taking in any 1st rnd trade up scenario. Shit, LT is likely what we're taking in round 1 trade up or not. They've been kicking this can down the road for too long. They've gotta be itching for a long term solution there.

2024 NFL CAP HITS:

1. Deshaun Watson $63.9M 0 Super Bowls
2. Dak Prescott $55.4M 0 Super Bowls
3. Kyler Murray $51.4M 0 Super Bowls
4. Matthew Stafford $49.5M 1 Super Bowl
5. Daniel Jones $47.1M 0 Super Bowls
6. Patrick Mahomes $37M 3 Super Bowls

These two are the biggest turds in the punchbowl for me. ROFL

The Watson trade is just horrific

From everything I'm seeing there's the clear cut LT prospects the Chiefs probably won't sniff around 32, if recent history continues teams aren't willing to trade with the Chiefs in the first round. Seems to be a bigger plethora of RT prospects after the top OT's are off the board.

Yeah, that's why I'm so high on using Sneed as an asset for a trade up if we do decide to move him.

It appears he carries a 3rd round value due to his contract and knee questions, which is frustrating since we all wanted more.

If there's a tackle we absolutely love that slips into the 10-15 range due to a run on QBs & WR's (let's say they make up 7-8 of the top 10), I'd be curious to see if we'd make the jump.

#32 + Sneed + 2025 1st could get us to around #15.

Alt would be gone, so again, we'd have to feel really, really good about the guy we'd pick.

There's no way in hell Veach is giving up two 1sts and Sneed for a pick-jump of 15+ spots and the 3rd OT off the board. And I sure as hell ain't equating Sneed to a 3rd cuz some literal nobody twatted that the Colts were trying to get him for that price.

Sneed comes with a 50 million dollar price tag. That isn't gonna happen.

I honestly believe nobody in the entire organization believed in Daniel Jones whatsoever, they were just too cowardly to move on from him as a former first round pick after he just lead a fluky playoff run. After he threw for 300 yards and beat the Vikings in the first round, they were screwed. Even after he shit the bed in Philly, they had to re-sign him.

They should have let him walk and never even thought twice. The sad part is, literally everyone knew that, and they still gave him the deal. Amazing.

I wouldn't pay any QB, unless they were proven to be top 5 or close. There's a lot of mediocre guys that can kind of play. Just roll with a Minshew or a Brisett until you get a chance to draft better.

Confused here. What’s the difference between #32 and a 2024 1st?

That is exactly what they should be doing. I've said before there is a missing middle class market for QBs. You're either making $35+ million or relegated to accepting 1 year deals and being a journeyman. It makes no sense to me, I feel there should be a mid-tier market for guys like Jones and his ilk at $15 million or so. That way the team still has a chance to fill in the roster around a very average QB.

Otherwise, yeah, just let them walk, sign two vets for dirt cheap and keep drafting. It's utterly pointless to do anything else.

Wasn't it like, 2 games in the next season the GM started regretting his decision? Unbelievable how you allow that to happen, just because he won a playoff game.

I'm not equating him to a 3rd because of that random dude's post. I'm basing it on the fact that no one has made a move for him yet, and that Veach let it be known "via sources" before FA started that KC "wouldn't take less than a 2nd," implying that a 1st was never really on the table, and that it's been reported that he wants to reset the market. Additionally, some candidates for Sneed have already made moves for other players.

I hope we'd get more in a trade, and if one doesn't develop, I'd prefer we keep him on the roster this year *assuming* he's willing to play on the tag.

As for Veach, I don't think he cares which order they go, so much as they get the right guy - ala Mahomes. Trubisky went first, and Watson was supposed to go first or second.

What I don't know is if there's a guy worth doing that for in this draft that would be available in that range.

Someone's gonna pay him and give up a pick equivalent to a 3rd, or we're keeping him on the tag. No?

Yeah, I ****ed that up. 2025 1st.

Yeah, and a team trading back in the first isn't gonna be wanting that as compensation for trading back.

They'll have to trade him for a pick then use said pick to trade up if they want.

A 3rd round value incorporates that assumption of his cost with the new deal.

If we send 32 + Sneed + next year's 1st, it's the equivalent of #32, a 3rd, and next year's 1st. (Assuming his trade value is a 3rd).

His value is to someone who wants to trade and pay him. The team trading back would theoretically have to want to do that, and if that's the case, they'd have already done it.

So you're saying that because a deal hasn't been made yet, that one won't happen?

There are 3 levers in this trade:
1- Sneed's Asking Price
2- Chiefs Asking Price
3- Trading team's willingness to pay for 1 & 2

It's been reported that teams were close on #2, but that #1 has been the holdup because Sneed wants to reset the market. Therefore #3 hasn't happened.

If a trade happens, it seems Sneed will have to lower his asking price because Veach sure as hell isn't taking scraps for #2, we'll just keep him on the tag. If Sneed drops his price, it opens up #2 & #3.

And if he does that, perhaps more teams come to the table and a deal gets made. Perhaps the Chiefs covet a pick in that range, and a team has that pick, and so a deal gets made.

Is it the most likely scenario? No, because we won't know who's available until draft day.

I’m with ya. I think they want a LT rd 1 and this is a good year to try to get one

Bengals got Trent Brown for their Right Tackle spot.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Browns</a> and WR <a href="https://twitter.com/jerryjeudy?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@jerryjeudy</a> have agreed to a three-year contract extension worth up to $58 million, including $41 million fully guaranteed at signing, per me and <a href="https://twitter.com/TomPelissero?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@TomPelissero</a>. <br><br>The deal was negotiated by <a href="https://twitter.com/EquitySports?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@equitysports</a> CEO <a href="https://twitter.com/chriscabott?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@chriscabott</a>. <a href="https://t.co/ozzyd4Qps8">pic.twitter.com/ozzyd4Qps8</a></p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1770159857720607184?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Any time you can pair your star qb and receiving corps with two slow footed tackles named Brown, you have to do it.

Urgh, annoying. They've had a quietly good FA. Only problem they have now is the whole rest of their shi**y OL.

Two slow footed tackles named Brown that are known to take one or several plays off depending on their mood.

The Bengals must hate Joe Burrow.

Why?

Because Browns.

This is basically what Andy Reid did, but the catch is most guys don't have that kind of job security. A couple bad years with a guy like Minshew and the next coach and GM will be the one picking the QB.

Guess so. It's ****ing tiring though having these dogs hit teams blow the market up.

LMAO

“They (the Browns) now have a $230m QB that has thrown 14 TDs in the last 2 years throwing to a $58m WR that has never had a 1,000 yard season.”

That's just insane! Dude has done nothing but underperform his draft slot and "hype" and turns it into more than $40M guaranteed? Browns sure do make some head scratcher decisions.

LMAO Now Aiyuk himself is tweeting about the rumor Steelers are working on a trade for him. Wonder if they actually pull it of

Despite having a really solid team they still are obligated to do one browns thing a year.

Thank God other teams are this stupid...

LMAO

Browns took a good trade and turned it to shit with that contract

Ewwwww

FIFY

So lucky to have Veach!

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Top Free Agent WR Guarantees<br><br>1. Calvin Ridley, $50M<br>2. Darnell Mooney, $26M<br>3. Gabriel Davis, $24M<br>4. Curtis Samuel, $15.02M<br>5. Marquise Brown, $6.5M<a href="https://t.co/Q5mOC0csJy">https://t.co/Q5mOC0csJy</a></p>&mdash; Spotrac (@spotrac) <a href="https://twitter.com/spotrac/status/1770116780385509442?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 19, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Kareem on a 1 year prove it deal? /Cp dingleberries

JK Dobbins rehabbing:

https://www.colorado.edu/today/sites...?itok=U8fph4c2

ROFLROFLROFL

Wtf is wrong with the Browns, man. Idiot ass loser franchise constantly doing the dumbest shit imaginable. Wtf has Jeudy done to deserve almost $20 mil/yr and $41 mil guaranteed?

The way things are playing out I hope we can keep Mike Danna.

Some people here said Calvin Ridley isn't great but he sure got paid like he was......:rolleyes: