Don't the 49ers use a finesse zone-blocking running attack?

Go ask Tannehill how finesse Sorenson is.

Finesse has just become a buzzword for "really ****ing good".

Just because our boys can fly and put up an insane highlight reel does not make them "finesse".

I don't think there is anything finesse about the Chiefs, they flat go at you on both sides of the ball.


Does anyone really think Frank ****ing Clark and Honey Badger are "finesse"?

Fixed your post.

Make Jimmy have to win it and we will win.
Stop the damn run!

If you’re watching the talking heads....be prepared to hear that we won’t be able to stop their running game. It won’t matter that we just stopped Henry. They’re going to repeat that bullshit narrative over and over again.

Well they sure as hell can't convince the world Jimmy Grapes is our kryptonite.

Good. Somebody please tweet all of it directly to 55.

Any chance we run the "super bowl defense" the Patriots used to slow down the Rams last year? They used a 6-1 front (six on the line of scrimmage) and were able to contain those zone runs and kept a lid on crossing routes off play-action. I bet Daly has at least talked it over with the defensive staff - wouldn't be surprised if they use it some.

Is there any doubt, especially after yesterday, what our defensive plan is gonna be?

Spags is going to make Garoppolo beat us, end of story.

Don't know if Q I have not read the entire thread

49ers to wear white jerseys, gold pants at Super Bowl

By Kevin Patra
Around the NFL Writer
Published: Jan. 20, 2020 at 01:18 p.m.Updated: Jan. 20, 2020 at 01:25 p.m.

The San Francisco 49ers will wear traditional road attire in Super Bowl LIV.

The Niners will don white jerseys with gold pants when they take on the Kansas City Chiefs, Sunday, Feb. 2 in Miami, the team confirmed Monday.

The Chiefs, the designated home team, will wear their dark jerseys. The NFL alternates home and away between the conferences each Super Bowl.

For Niners fans bummed Kyle Shanahan's squad won't be sporting the popular all-white uniforms, take solace knowing San Francisco is 2-0 in Super Bowls donning the white-gold combo. The 49ers beat the Bengals in Super Bowl XVI and the Denver Broncos in Super Bowl XXIV wearing white and gold.

Never been impressed with Jimmy Grapes. I think he will cough the ball up a few times. He is terrible under pressure and prone to fumbles.

I think it was the last Seahawks vs 49ers game, but the commentators brought up the fact that teams know Jimmy G's comfort zone is throwing over the middle. He struggles throwing outside the hash marks. If we're able to contain the run and take away the middle of the field, I like our chances.

Yup, I honestly think Tannehill was a better QB. Make Pronboy pass and the game becomes a Chiefs blowout.

GOAT

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr"><a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chiefs?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chiefs</a> 2019 AFC Championship Game Highest-Graded Offensive Player: QB Patrick Mahomes - 96.1<br><br>• Highest-graded game of Mahomes’ career<br><br>• Highest-graded postseason game for a QB in PFF history<br><br>��: Jay Biggerstaff, USA Today<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/eQoKvEmIss">https://t.co/eQoKvEmIss</a> <a href="https://t.co/nAa0NfkTGk">pic.twitter.com/nAa0NfkTGk</a></p>&mdash; PFF KC Chiefs (@PFF_Chiefs) <a href="https://twitter.com/PFF_Chiefs/status/1219295706130866176?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Yeah and they highlighted last week how Shanahan uses motions to open up zone voids in the MOF. Chiefs have to be very disciplined against SF, they do so much window dressing.

Winning the LOS will take care of most things.

Like most teams- they will have to abandoned their run game when they go down by 3 scores in the second half.

49ers have a really good O line too. This game is gonna be close but ultimately Chiefs win. Mahomes and company will not allow Reid to lose this game

Looking at last year's matchup we are basically playing the same defensive team minus Bosa and Dee Choker. Mahomes had 314 yds and 3 TD's and the 49ers rushed for 180 yds and lost by 10.

You guys were right about some things. I underestimated the 4 week road trip and the physical toll all those carries had on Derrick Henry.. and the oline as well. You got the Titans at a very good time.

The 9ers are a physical team like the Titans, only they'll be rested and ready. I fear what their physicality will do vs your team

Physicality wins. That’s part of why the Chiefs curb stomped those finesse Titans and shut down the Queen. Sent them home like the punk ass bitches they are.

Tell the Queen she can send Frank Clark a postcard. Tell that soft bitch to enjoy her vacation.

LMAO

You're so dumb.

You just watched your team get thoroughly outplayed and that's your takeaway?

Can't fix stupid.

Some people have said that's knowmo. I'm not sure though.

I'm nit sure about this knowmo.. phil collins fan?

stop replying to trolls! you really think this guy believes the crap he is spewing? just ignore them and they will go away

Your D coordinator just quit...because Mahomes

Bosa is major difference maker though. SF D-line is going to be a huge challenge.

These teams are too different from that 2018 matchup to even compare.

:deevee:

**** off you ignorant twat. Nobody gives a shit what you think.

Titans won't make the playoffs next year. Shouldn't have even been there this year.

You're that team that sneaks in that no one expects, only never to be heard from the next season.

Finessed the ball down your throat in the 3rd quarter.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Since falling down 24-0 last week the <a href="https://twitter.com/Chiefs?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@Chiefs</a> have scored a TD on 12-17 possessions since<br><br>THAT IS INSANITY. To score on half would be bonkers. <br><br>This offense is____?</p>&mdash; Dan Orlovsky (@danorlovsky7) <a href="https://twitter.com/danorlovsky7/status/1219027059055439876?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 19, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Tennessee had a true cinderella run to close out their year but it could hurt them in the longer term. His whole body of work suggests Tannehill is average at best and gets exposed when the team needs to rely on the passing game. Now they are going to be stuck with him for at least all of next season if not longer when they would be better off drafting somebody with more potential.

And if they actually pay Henry a huge contract they will be totally screwed.

Dean Pees retires

Mahomes is now ending careers

Lol any pics

Please just DESTROY the 49ers. Their fans are horrible, nearly as bad as Patriots fans.

Agreed. The key will be our interior line protection IMO.

Veach and Spags deserve so much credit

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="ht" dir="ltr">Love Spagz. <a href="https://t.co/xZrA9Oe5c9">https://t.co/xZrA9Oe5c9</a></p>&mdash; Tyrann Mathieu (@Mathieu_Era) <a href="https://twitter.com/Mathieu_Era/status/1219360050621403137?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Russell Wilson gave them fits this year. Mahomes has very similar ability to scramble and throw on the run.

And much better pass protection on top of it.

Clearly see here that EB is calling the plays

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">“But he doesn’t call plays ��” (and it isn’t just him relaying the call 100% of the time). <a href="https://t.co/Rz9CzptvsO">pic.twitter.com/Rz9CzptvsO</a></p>&mdash; Louis Riddick (@LRiddickESPN) <a href="https://twitter.com/LRiddickESPN/status/1219084887438888963?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 20, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

And more dangerous weapons. All it takes is one little mistake and you give up a 60 yard TD against the likes of Tyreek, Hardman, Watkins.

9er fan here. I come in peace.

This is a scary Chiefs team that I’m not too thrilled to be facing. I’ll take my offense vs your defense any day of the week. But your offense... that’s a nightmare.

This game ultimately goes down to can we get to Mahomes. *If* we’re able to get there, all that speed the receivers have will be irrelevant.

Like a lot of others during our winning streak, you will learn to have more respect for our D in no time.

It’ll be interesting to see how it goes. I think both teams might go over 30 points.

Not to mention a much better set of targets.

Hill, Kelce, Watkins, Hardman, Williams...

Compared to Lockett and Metkalf

Our defense is not bad. We just shut down Henry when no one else could. We have physicality on defense. Just ask Honey Badger or Dirty Dan Sorensen

Time to send Jeff.Fisher to the romper room.

Please allow the 49ers, their fans, and the media to think that they’re going to be able to do whatever they want offensively!!!

Chris Jones is going to be ready to roll and this defense will be ****ing pissed.

The best defense in the league the last 6 games of the regular season? The defense that just shut down Henry and gave up a total of 295 yards to the Titans who are basically the 49'ers light?

I suppose Mahomes probably wont out gain your entire team by 50+ yards by himself like he did against Tenn but he may get close.

This is going to be a great game regardless of rooting interest.

9ers dline chasing Mahomes around as he makes the extraordinary look routine with all the skill talent and Reid drawing up brilliance on one side and Spags dueling Shannahan on the other.

I will guess chiefs win bc Mahomes is a transcendent talent who covers up the flaws.

I think I'll just enjoy the win for a week and then start to dig in. Last night was literally once in a lifetime for most of us. It's worth savoring.

Did anyone think the Vikings/Packers defenses were as bad as they looked against the Niners? That Niner OL is dominant and they have better playcalling than Tennessee.

Guess it goes both ways. Your D doesn’t get nearly enough respect same as our O.

The titans are basically the 9ers??? LMAO!!! We’re on a different level than those guys offensively. Shanahan is an elite play caller.

We have won many different ways. The RB’s being the ones that carry us to victory. Jimmy G dueling it out with Drew Brees. The D dominating.

I mean no disrespect but, shut down Mahomes (which I’m sure it’s impossible to do) and the Chiefs have nothing.

The Packers are awful against the run. Like worse than the 2018 Chiefs bad.

Lol we beat your toughest playoff opponent without Mahomes and almost beat the other too.

We’ve known about a Shannahan zone running scheme. It killed us for years.

It will be very tough bc they have a strong OL and Kittle is the best blocking TE in the league.

The 49ers pass defense is vulnerable. I feel like they are similar to the Titans in that respect, but obviously they can generate a pass rush with just their front four, whereas the Titans had a difficult time with that. The 49ers have allowed elite receivers to go off on them - it doesn't seem like they're able to scheme away a team's top receiving threat. Julio Jones had 13 catches for 134 yards and 2 TDs. Michael Thomas had 11 catches for 134 yards and 1 TD. Davante Adams just went for 9 catches and 138 yards. With all of the weapons the Chiefs have, the 49er's defensive backs are going to have a really tough time if that pass rush isn't applying pressure quickly.

We beat both basically without a QB.

Biggest thing worrying me about this game is the 49ers pass rush. Bosa, Armstead, Buckner and Ford are the best pass rushing front 4 in the league and we all know the best way to beat a great QB is dominating up front with 4.

But I think Andy will have a plan. I think there will be so much misdirection and fakes, audibles to quick draw runs, screens etc to confuse that DL if it’s a pass or a run.

Either way our guys did an excellent job against Jurrell Casey and Jeff Simmons yesterday. We will desperately need the OL to have a solid game. Fully expect to have Bell motioned to Bosa’s side.

Also keep in mind that Daly coached his DL against this offense in the Super Bowl a few years ago. He’s got that experience.

Interesting. Not sure how they won the NFC North.

Ouch this 9er fan is walking on thin ice. Let me help..
This chiefs defense is very much improved.. i thought it was because they had played some bad offenses but they shut down henry when no one else could.. How much of that was the chiefs d vs henry overused the past few weeks i'm not sure. Also henry's hamstring was flaring up by the 2nd quarter. But the chiefs were able to stop henry with 9 in the box.
Shanahan will have more success however, as he is not mule headed to keep calling the same play repeatedly trying to impose his manhood, or henrys manhood.. regardless, the 9ers have much better play callers. It will be interesting to see if the chiefs are able to keep up their success. Of course they did give up 24 points to a one dimensional offense with a retread journeyman quarterback who cant play in cold weather though.

The Titans did a good job with kelce. Think they focused on him a little too much and let others make too many plays.

Also the chiefs were wanted for the super bowl so the refs called the game that way so we'll see how the super bowl plays out. I'm expecting a high scoring game, with the 9ers getting a defensive score or 2 and mahomes throwing to his speedy finesse recievers.

Nice avatar.

I was at that game in the rain at Doak.

"Mr. Fisher, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."—CP

Seriously? WTF?

You have every right to bitch about referees, as I'm sure the Tits got screwed on some calls this season (like every NFL team)... but that AFCC was called very well.

The Vikings, Packers, and Seahawks are all run-first NFC teams. The 49ers made those teams uncomfortable by taking away the running game. The Chiefs really don't care about running the ball. We don't look to "establish the run" - we just use it situationally and occasionally to keep teams honest if all they are doing is rushing the passer. I could see the 49ers taking away our longer developing routes on several plays because their pass rush is so good that those routes won't have time to develop. But I have to think our screen game and short passing game is going stress that defense either way. Might be a big YAC type of game for our offense. Quick slants over the middle to Hill, Watkins, Hardman are going to be tough to defend.

This is a little misleading because Ford, Tart (our starting SS), and Kwon (or best coverage LB) didn’t play against the Saints and Falcons. Our nickel CB was also in the concussion protocol for the Falcons game.

And Adams got his yards in garbage time yesterday.

That said, Mahomes’s mobility and uncanny ability to throw on the run can negate the rush.

Wilson and Kyler Murray gave us the most trouble.

I expect the Chiefs to get into the 30s, but I think we can, too.

I was as well. Special.

Although I won’t disagree, I will say we’ve had more success shutting down the opp best WR more often than not.

Chris Godwin
Mike Evans
Jarvis Landry
OBJ
Stefon Diggs
Adam Thielen
Devante Adams

Also, Devante Adams got the majority of his yards in garbage time.

Get the **** out of there with this shit.

So which player are you gonna double? Kelce or Tyreek? If you double both Watkins will go off.

The good news is, the Chiefs have almost as many guys who can put up 200 yards in receiving on any given day than San Fran has tons of human shit dumped in public streets today.

Please...Put Sherman in single coverage on Hill. Please double hill and 87.

Yes. Our defense has improved dramatically since Spags took over. That being said, I do think that the niners will be a tougher opponent than the Titans were as far as slowing down their offense. I think that they have enough of a passing game that we will not be able to sell out against the run. They will get theirs, but I think that the key will be slowing them down enough to where Mahomes and company can put us over the top.

Or Hardman, or Damien in the flats, or Mahomes getting cheap yards with his legs...and even Robinson might pop up from time to time. He got a nice 24 yarder yesterday. It is hard to defend all these guys.

Welcome. Please stick around- your reasonable takes are appreciated.

Does Tartt typically drop deep in your cover 3 or is it primarily Witherspoon and Sherman?

I’m a visitor here so I’ll take the high road and keep it peaceful...

I 100% agree. This is why my original post stated that it’ll take the pass rush to get to Mahomes to negate that speed the Chiefs WR have. If we can’t get to your QB before routes develop, it’ll be over by halftime.

The 49ers are the toughest matchup in the NFL for the Chiefs.

The Chiefs can struggle if you get pressure w/ 4 because they can't run the ball efficiently enough to slow the DL down and the screen game just hasn't been very good. So teams that can send 4 and create havoc can keep 7 in coverage and do enough to clog up passing lanes and/or disrupt the timing of the offense. With Bosa, Armstead, Buckner and (yes) Ford - that's a lot of guys that can **** stuff up on the DL. It's a nasty front that can make things difficult all day without having to send extra defenders.

On offense they have genuine game-breakers out of the backfield in Mostert and Breida, who are both very elusive and very quick. Henry isn't as shifty or quick - he gave you a target to hit. The Niners backs don't and Shanahan runs the most interesting running attack in football right now. He's just got a damn nice scheme.

Moreover, if you sell-out to clog rushing lanes, Samuel's emergence as a deep threat along with Sanders as a stick mover and the dangerous Kittle mean that they can really hurt us if we give them an opening.

I figured the Chiefs had a real nice path to double digit wins against both Houston and TN, but this 49ers team is a different critter.

The Chiefs can obviously win the game, but they need to play the best game (ALL 60 minutes) that they've played all season. None of these brutal 3rd down drops. None of the coverage breakdowns and none of the stupid penalties.

They have to play incredibly well. Their previous 2 opponents simply weren't at their level talent-wise. They could give a B- effort and beat two overmatched teams. The 49ers ain't overmatched. Not on paper and not in the coaching staff.

This is gonna be a dogfight and if the Chiefs come out flat, they'll lose it. They have to come out sharper than they've come out in the last 2 games.