The Eagles are actually a very similar team to the Chiefs.

Offensively, both teams have a top QB, loads of weapons, multiple RBs and at least a decent Oline.

Defensively, both teams have strond Dlines with a back seven with some talent but also clear question marks.

Our second is gonna be high due to it being the 49ers pick.

Need another Parker Ehinger type trade.

not a trade but movement

Oh my

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Colts Continue Search For Backup QB, Visit Matt Cassel, Brandon Weeden (via <a href="https://twitter.com/chrisblystone?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@chrisblystone</a>) <a href="https://t.co/iHtXXo4RDA">https://t.co/iHtXXo4RDA</a> <a href="https://t.co/4pDPxd9gEW">pic.twitter.com/4pDPxd9gEW</a></p>&mdash; Stampede Blue (@StampedeBlue) <a href="https://twitter.com/StampedeBlue/status/1167072425613434881?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>


as a follow up

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Brandon Weeden throws a laser to T.Y Hilton for an 89-yard touchdown. The crowd loses it, fans across the country are crying. Weeden gets carried off the field by Andrew Luck and his wife. Final score: Colts-7 Chiefs-876</p>&mdash; Adam Zientek (@AdamZientek3) <a href="https://twitter.com/AdamZientek3/status/1167104899714125827?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 29, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

^^^

:)

I was just getting ready to post this. They had Brock Asswiper in yesterday. LMAO

They just need someone to back up Brisket until Felonious Kelly’s suspension is over.

That would be perfect if the sign Cassel and he plays against us at Arrowhead. Then he gets hurt and the crowd cheers- Again!

That is certainly a movement...of the bowel variety. LMAO

And there are posts about Kap not getting a tryout.
What team wants to be a part of that shit show.

I don't think Kap really want to play football anymore. He's been offered jobs before but since none of them have been starter job for 20m he hasn't taken them. He just wants to rip a team off for a big contract.

The “rip off” would be the quarterback play

Apparently Miami is open to trading Laremy Tunsil and it is pissing the players off enough that there is a revolt brewing in the locker room if he is dealt, according to the herald down there.

From what I read, it would take 2 1sts to get him though.

You can't trade the locker room pharmacist.

I can already say with some confidence, that regime in Miami ain't working. Don't really need to see anything else out of them, ain't happening.

It's a Patriot castoff, going in and doing "Patriot Way" shit, gotta get guys to win our way so lets start moving out things that don't fit. In doing that they'll trade away a young ascending LT and turn around and have to find another one.

So yeah, I'm out on that. Call and pick over their players. Give me Minkah for a 4th.

I don't know how many ex-Patriot coordinators have to get jobs and proceed to !@#$ that team up before teams stop doing it.

Belichick has to have the least successful coaching tree in football - by FAR. And yet teams keep going back to that well as though the Patriots success is anything more than Belichick and Brady.

It's just bizarre.

Not that I want teams to continue to snipe our coaches or anything, but contrast this Patriot Way horseshit to Reid's guys:

https://sports.yahoo.com/bill-belich...002924400.html

It just isn't close.

Just posted the same thing, sorry. Too late.

But on a serious note, i'd start picking over that roster and take the guys they don't want.

McMillian, Fitzpatrick, Gesecki, whoever.

If they don't want Fitzpatrick I'd be all over that.....

I'm not really sure what he'd play here but you could fit him in somewhere.

I wonder if Kiko Alonso has anything left...

Cheapshot artist.

Well we could really use another LB so yea.

Alonso hasn't been good for a while.

Maybe one of their corners?

With range who's played every position and is a sure tackler.

His contract is too high to trade for but at half that number, I'm in. He'd probably be our best linebacker.

They're gonna cut him so that's why I'm asking.

Are we talking about the same Kiko Alonso here?

He's 29, in reality if you can get him cheap that is the type of signing the Chiefs should be on, maybe a 1 year prove it type deal with some good coaching and you get a guy who plays good on a winner?

Yeah I'm confused. There's a reason he's about to be on his 4th team in 6 years.

What makes you think he plays good on a winning team?

Yeah.

He's not as bad as you're saying he is. He isn't the guy he was as a rookie when it looked like he was going to be a genuine stud and perennial Pro Bowler.

But he's a solid player. 3 picks last season, 120 plus tackles. He's played all over the place (I think he played weakside last year; has played middle in the past).

His versatility alone could be a significant asset at at 29 he's nearing the end but he hasn't hit it yet. He has another solid season in him, IMO.

Is he an upgrade over anything we would potentially put out there though at this point?

I'd rather see Lee get those snaps.

Is it the same reason one of them gave him a guaranteed $16 million deal?

He left the Bills because he got hurt and they were transitioning defense so they didn't know what to do with him. He was also the only return when the Eagles traded LeSean McCoy, who was seen as a big time player when the trade went down.

The Philly experiment admittedly went poorly but lets also remember that he was a necessary cost of offloading that awful Byron Maxwell deal they gave out. The Dolphins took on about $16 million of Maxwell's deal (guaranteed salaries after his bonus, IIRC) and Alonso was the prize.

Neither time was he traded just to be unloaded. Once was because Buffalo wanted the RB they thought fit their system well and their new scheme may not match Alonso coming off his injury, the other time was because Philly needed to figure out how to get out from that Maxwell contract and he was the piece they had to surrender to do it.

He's been a good player on a bad team in Miami - that's hardly his fault.

Have you seen how bad we are at LB? He'd be a solid upgrade.

I mean, i'm all about seeing what sticks, so if they cut him go for it.

But I just dunno.

A starting caliber LB for peanuts on a team that lacks depth isn't a bad idea.

Wilson
Hitchens
Lee

Neimann
Ragland


We could use one more and Kiko is a guy that’s always around the ball.

I’d take him for cheap over DOD.

Apparently Tunsil is in the Clowney trade.......that's why the revolt talk is happening.

He'd be no worse than 4th in line for snaps on my board.

Though I will concede that it's hard to convince myself to put him in the top 3rd given how impressed I've been by Wilson and how game Lee has looked so far. Lee's willingness in the run has been a revelation and it could be huge.

But Wilson's never been a starter, Lee's track record is spotty at best and Hitchens has come into the season in a key role 1 time in his career and spit the bit pretty hard.

It's just awfully ballsy to say "hey man, we have Hitchens, Lee and Wilson as our starters - what do we need a guy who's popped off 110+ tackles/season like clockwork and shown good coverage chops for?"

That's a fair amount of hubris for a team who's linebackers are short on known quantities, and that's if you're putting it diplomatically. They might just suck.

Well dukes.

That would be a damn nice swap for Houston and I'm not real excited about them getting better.

I don't think they get the better pure player in that swap, but they get a cheap, young OT for a team that BADLY needs an OT at any price. It's just a really good 'needs' deal for them.

Would definitely take Kiko.

Smart, fast, diagnoses quickly, good blitzer, good coverage, good striker, forces turnovers, AFC East experience/Patriots Intel.

Or Enrico Pallazo?

Sound thinking that often pans out

Delicious

Perfect backup QB for Patrick.

I mean, no way the Dolphins do that straight across, right?

Player wise, sure it makes sense I suppose, but from a financial and planning standpoint, why?

Theoretically if you're the Dolphins, you could have both for just money.

He’s talking about Minkah Fitzpatrick.

Eh....**** probably.

Things probably or usually don't workout like you always want so some of these dudes won't work out. So with that in mind, you'd be hard pressed to find better depth than Kiko so if he's cut, go for it.

I just dunno that you'd get him to sign for a depth spot, but it'd be worth a shot.

I've actually been impressed with Wilson and Lee myself and....gulp....Ragland hasn't really looked out of place in that SLB spot as much as I thought. He was a pretty good blitzer at Bama so maybe use him in that spot moreso.

They don't really have a LB setup that by himself works ideally, but the mishmash of parts, collectively, you can see if they play it out right would work pretty nicely.

The Dolphins are kinda dumb.

But you really wouldn't think so. Especially when they need...everything. I mean if the Texans are open for business here, get Coutee and Scharping back. I mean surely Scharping has to be part of it, right? They can't move Tunsil - who will protect next years new QB - and not get at the very least a high ceiling young player back with him.

It isn't as though they're dealing from weakness here - they don't HAVE to make this move. But if you can get Clowney (present value of roughly a 2nd) Coutee (probably a 3rd) Scharping (3rd) and maybe Omenihu (5th) then you're in the ballpark for an ascending LT. And even that's maybe a bit on the light side.

Butif you're the Texans you still do it. Scharping isn't necessary if you have Tunsil and Coutee is your 3rd WR. Clowney doesn't want to play for you and Omenihu is a guy who maybe develops into Okafor in 2 years. If that's what you give up to get a young LT - pft, DONE.

I would think the Dolphins could do even better than that.

The Texans make the deal every day and twice on sunday. Easiest deal they could make.

Tunsil is a potential all pro LT who is already developed and ready to go, you just have to pay him and plug him on the left side. ****, that's a great deal for the Texans. I really hope they phins aren't that dumb.

There's a scenario where the Dolphins make that trade and end up with neither player in a year. It's just dumb.

I don't think Clowney wants to go to Miami anyway so he may nix that.

Seattle just makes a lot of sense for him in what they ask their DE's to do.

Seattle is usually pretty smart so I can see them getting a 1 and 2 for Clark and flipping the 2 for Clowney to replace him.

Lol Seattle hasn’t been smart at all lately.

According to the Miami Herald, the offer would have sent Clowney AND a first-round pick to the Dolphins, and in exchange, the Texans would have acquired offensive lineman Laremy Tunsil. Apparently, the only reason the deal didn’t go down is because the Dolphins wanted more than that. According to the Herald, Miami also wanted another “high draft pick” thrown into the deal, and understandably, the Texans balked at the Dolphins’ asking price.

This is called overplaying your hand.

It’s two inept franchises

One with a hc as a gm who’s clueless and another with a first time tough guy head coach

Both patriot way castoffs so is this surprising to anyone?

But they have no guarantee of getting Clowney for more than this year which is going to be a losing season anyway. They need to be able to justify trading away a young lt without counting Clowney.

I actually think Clowney, a 1st and Scharping would be a fair return.

And I think the Texans should do it.

Tunsil would be enormous for them.

Jags released CB Saivion Smith

They cut a few others as well.

Patriots trade former second round pick Duke Dawson to the Broncos.

Also Su'a Cravens is cut.

Broncos are trying like hell to match up with our offense.

Apparently Shaqueem Griffin is right on the cut bubble, having 1 hand is an issue.

Five finger discount?

Surprise, Raiders cut LB Brandon Marshall

Brandon Marshall cut. Gonna miss Kelce destroying that guy

Pretty sure the Pats have traded for 3 offensive linemen this preseason.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Giving up on a second-round pick after one year isn’t ideal, but the bigger mistake would have been keeping Dawson around at the expense of player who is going to contribute. Better to get something now than cut him for nothing in a year.</p>&mdash; Nick Underhill (@nick_underhill) <a href="https://twitter.com/nick_underhill/status/1167462251902754818?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 30, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Yep. I bet over half the teams around the league would’ve caved to sunk-cost fallacy &amp; rode it out for another full season if not two. <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Patriots?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Patriots</a> <a href="https://t.co/ygFQPy6nlO">https://t.co/ygFQPy6nlO</a></p>&mdash; Evan Silva (@evansilva) <a href="https://twitter.com/evansilva/status/1167469638852186113?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 30, 2019</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Been banging this drum for years:<br><br>There are no “good drafters.” It’s all randomness.</p>&mdash; Evan Silva (@evansilva) <a href="https://twitter.com/evansilva/status/1167471032128684032?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 30, 2019</a></blockquote>
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That might be the weirdest take on drafting I've ever seen.

A lot of fans on this board think and expect every 2nd round pick to become a good player.

There it is. The great Patriots trading their 2nd round pick from a year ago for peanuts.

If anything, this team has hit on a ton of high draft picks in the last few years.

It is just normal that a guy like Speaks for example might never amount to anything.

Bill Belichick sucks at drafting corners early...

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">With Duke Dawson getting traded to the Denver Broncos, here&#39;s a list of the first and second round defensive backs selected by Bill Belichick.<br><br>It&#39;s...not great. <a href="https://t.co/ZWEGwQX05k">pic.twitter.com/ZWEGwQX05k</a></p>&mdash; Rich Hill (@PP_Rich_Hill) <a href="https://twitter.com/PP_Rich_Hill/status/1167460015097208832?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 30, 2019</a></blockquote>
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LMAO

Wtf?

Just remember, there are no good drafters or bad drafters, it's all just pure randomness the good drafting teams are just lucky!

Doesn’t hurt the Pats tho. They got huge steals from undrafted corners JC Jackson and Jonathan Jones.

So is the guy the Pats traded not any good, or is he just not good for their scheme?

Lions have cut CB Teez Tabor.

Ravens cut Shane Ray

bust

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Per source, LB Rolando McClain has secured conditional reinstatement to the NFL. He has missed three full seasons.</p>&mdash; ProFootballTalk (@ProFootballTalk) <a href="https://twitter.com/ProFootballTalk/status/1167497473478266880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">More cuts: The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Browns?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Browns</a> released DB Montrel Meander, source said. …. The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Jaguars?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Jaguars</a> released S C.J. Reavis, per source.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/1167499085785567232?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">August 30, 2019</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I think the colts have his rights