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Quesadilla Joe 04-20-2017 06:47 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If you missed Path to the Draft over the last three days, one of the most interesting rumors circulating is that Jaguars could go QB at #4.</p>&mdash; Lance Zierlein (@LanceZierlein) <a href="https://twitter.com/LanceZierlein/status/855039333765713920">April 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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I don't buy it...

Quesadilla Joe 04-20-2017 09:10 AM

Some thoughts on Deshaun Watson from Albert Breer...

Spoiler!
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/20/a...mpact-notebook

Hammock Parties 04-20-2017 05:00 PM

he's got terabytes

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C94LqcKXoAEvlt1.jpg:large

Quesadilla Joe 04-21-2017 01:04 PM

Just some fun rumors from an old NFL scout Dave-Te Thomas...

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http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com...&thread=551640


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http://corner.bigblueinteractive.com...&thread=551576

staylor26 04-21-2017 01:29 PM

If the Broncos trade up for McCaffrey LMAO

Quesadilla Joe 04-21-2017 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12834290)
If the Broncos trade up for McCaffrey LMAO

I'd give up two #1's + a 3 to move up from 20 to get McCaffery and Joe Thomas.

RunKC 04-21-2017 01:50 PM

Broncos trying to trade into the top 15 for McCaffrey...Chiefs get a more electric McCaffrey in the 5th rd last year LMAO

Quesadilla Joe 04-21-2017 02:04 PM

McCaffery could be a top 5-7 RB, top 5 PR, and the #1 slot receiver in the league day one. There isn't a GM in the league who'd rather have Tyreek Hill over Christian McCaffery.

RunKC 04-21-2017 02:06 PM

Knwmo's homer boner showing again. 10/10 GM's would take Hill over Ed's spawn. The kid has proven nothing yet.

Tyreek proved to be an all pro last year

Quesadilla Joe 04-21-2017 02:09 PM

I would stop watching the Broncos if they signed Tyreek Hill.

staylor26 04-21-2017 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12834294)
I'd give up two #1's + a 3 to move up from 20 to get McCaffery and Joe Thomas.

I'd be very happy with that trade :D

Titty Meat 04-21-2017 02:19 PM

This draft is going to be intriguing/frustrating to watch. Those 12 and 13th picks could **** this all up.

staylor26 04-21-2017 02:33 PM

"The Chiefs are determined to build for the future and have been equally busy as San Francisco in delving into the good, bad, ugly of the quarterback class. If they go Round One, DeShaun Watson is their flavor of the month."

This goes with that report RunKC posted in the lounge

RunKC 04-21-2017 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12834327)
I would stop watching the Broncos if they signed Tyreek Hill.

You were still a fan after WR Brandon Marshall had domestic abuse

DJ's left nut 04-21-2017 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12834325)
Knwmo's homer boner showing again. 10/10 GM's would take Hill over Ed's spawn. The kid has proven nothing yet.

Tyreek proved to be an all pro last year

And Paxton Lynch would be the #1 overall pick.

Knowshit is a reerun.

Titty Meat 04-21-2017 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12834352)
"The Chiefs are determined to build for the future and have been equally busy as San Francisco in delving into the good, bad, ugly of the quarterback class. If they go Round One, DeShaun Watson is their flavor of the month."

This goes with that report RunKC posted in the lounge

DJ will hate it but I think he's a great fit.

Quesadilla Joe 04-21-2017 03:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12834374)
And Paxton Lynch would be the #1 overall pick.

Knowshit is a reerun.

Had he stayed in school he absolutely could've been the #1 or #2 OVR pick this year. There was talk in the middle of his junior season that he could be the #1 pick in the draft in 2016.

DJ's left nut 04-21-2017 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12834423)
Had he stayed in school he absolutely could've been the #1 or #2 OVR pick this year. There was talk in the middle of his junior season that he could be the #1 pick in the draft in 2016.

And they'd have said the same thing about Kizer had he left last year. Hell, people said that Donald Stephenson was a surefire 1st rounder if he'd had stayed until his senior year.

You have no ****ing clue what you're talking about.

O.city 04-21-2017 04:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12834323)
McCaffery could be a top 5-7 RB, top 5 PR, and the #1 slot receiver in the league day one. There isn't a GM in the league who'd rather have Tyreek Hill over Christian McCaffery.

What, wut?

Quesadilla Joe 04-21-2017 05:51 PM

Quote:

"I had a general manager tell me that two quarterbacks will be taken before the Buffalo Bills pick at No. 10," said NFL Network analyst Charley Casserly. "Two quarterbacks in the top nine. That'd be a shocker."
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...top-nine-picks

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Think Charley and I talked to the same guy today. <a href="https://t.co/rQnNpfA5AU">https://t.co/rQnNpfA5AU</a></p>&mdash; Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/855568514723262466">April 21, 2017</a></blockquote>
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kccrow 04-21-2017 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12831725)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If you missed Path to the Draft over the last three days, one of the most interesting rumors circulating is that Jaguars could go QB at #4.</p>&mdash; Lance Zierlein (@LanceZierlein) <a href="https://twitter.com/LanceZierlein/status/855039333765713920">April 20, 2017</a></blockquote>
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I don't buy it...

Sure they do... well they want a team to trade up to #3 to get a QB so they get their guy to fall to them. :D

Titty Meat 04-21-2017 07:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Quesadilla Joe (Post 12834582)
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...top-nine-picks

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Think Charley and I talked to the same guy today. <a href="https://t.co/rQnNpfA5AU">https://t.co/rQnNpfA5AU</a></p>&mdash; Matt Miller (@nfldraftscout) <a href="https://twitter.com/nfldraftscout/status/855568514723262466">April 21, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Turbinsky to Cleveland (who trades back into the top 10) and Watson to the Jets.

Sandy Vagina 04-21-2017 07:04 PM

PFF has Webb as the #9 quarterback.. 195 overall. LMAO

rico 04-22-2017 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks (Post 12834692)
PFF has Webb as the #9 quarterback.. 195 overall. LMAO

Wowza, Sandy Cheeks really hates him some Davis Webb. I haven't heard of him hate on a player like this since well....Jamaal Charles, Justin Houston, Eric Fisher, LDT, Dee Ford, Nick Foles, Dee Ford, Dontari Poe, Dustin Colquitt, Tampa, DJ, Marcus Peters, Mitch Morse, Powe, Chris Jones, Cairo Santos, Ehinger, Keller, Jeremy Maclin, Chris Conley, Albert Wilson, Spencer Ware, Charcandrick West, etc....

Quesadilla Joe 04-22-2017 08:45 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Players targeted in these Top-10 trade feelers: Trubisky + McCaffery. Those are the 2 guys (I&#39;ve been told) teams want to move up for.</p>&mdash; Eric Galko (@OptimumScouting) <a href="https://twitter.com/OptimumScouting/status/855792854517637120">April 22, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Between teams looking to jump the Jets for a QB and teams looking to get McCaffery, <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Titans?src=hash">#Titans</a> are easily the most likely to move down. <a href="https://t.co/E20OvQQRSe">https://t.co/E20OvQQRSe</a></p>&mdash; Eric Galko (@OptimumScouting) <a href="https://twitter.com/OptimumScouting/status/855794889367400448">April 22, 2017</a></blockquote>
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O.city 04-22-2017 12:22 PM

I've had some free time today finally as the kids are getting over their illnesses so I've caught up on some of the Mahomes and company media tour and watched some more stuff on him.

He's such a gunslinger. He's reckless at times to a huge fault. But watching some of his interviews, I'm not sure he was ever really coached out of it or tried to tamper it down at Tech. He made a comment on Gruden that they said something to the effect of "you know you shouldn't throw it like that, get more downhill etc, but you made the throw ok, so whatever".

The more I read into him, he seems like a really smart and good kid, nice leader etc. His aggressive nature could be a good match with Reid's conservativeness at times. Yin and yang maybe?

I don't know about trading up for him though. He's got a lot of rough edges.

Titty Meat 04-22-2017 01:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12835127)
I've had some free time today finally as the kids are getting over their illnesses so I've caught up on some of the Mahomes and company media tour and watched some more stuff on him.

He's such a gunslinger. He's reckless at times to a huge fault. But watching some of his interviews, I'm not sure he was ever really coached out of it or tried to tamper it down at Tech. He made a comment on Gruden that they said something to the effect of "you know you shouldn't throw it like that, get more downhill etc, but you made the throw ok, so whatever".

The more I read into him, he seems like a really smart and good kid, nice leader etc. His aggressive nature could be a good match with Reid's conservativeness at times. Yin and yang maybe?

I don't know about trading up for him though. He's got a lot of rough edges.

Were drafting dline bro

O.city 04-22-2017 01:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BigMeatballBillay (Post 12835210)
Were drafting dline bro

If so, they were doing that before this release of Howard.

I think now, if Foster is sitting there at 27, run to the podium.

TambaBerry 04-22-2017 02:26 PM

I'd be so pissed if my team traded up in the first round for a rb

OldSchool 04-22-2017 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12835216)
If so, they were doing that before this release of Howard.

I think now, if Foster is sitting there at 27, run to the podium.

Agreed, I'd grab Foster without a second of hesitation.

Quesadilla Joe 04-23-2017 10:43 AM

The scout's/GM's that McGinn talked to sure didn't have a whole lot of nice things to say about Kizer...

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http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports...ust/100737052/



McGinn wrote another article and had the scouts/GM's comment on the other QB's... McGinn also got their Wonderlic scores, FWIW.

Spoiler!
http://www.jsonline.com/story/sports...cks/100736988/

Sandy Vagina 04-23-2017 10:58 AM

So it has been decided for Andy... GIGABYTES.

NATHAN PETERMAN, Pittsburgh
Wonderlic of 33.
Day 2 pick.


:)

RunKC 04-23-2017 11:08 AM

Being scared of Webb bc Goff didn't play well last year is beyond stupid. Put Dak Prescott on that shitty team and he would look awful too, likewise Goff would have probably looked decent playing on a Dallas offense with elite talent everywhere.
It's also funny that they don't mention Prescott having success and he was also a spread offense QB.

These scouts seem to forget another Cal QB who was knocked for the system that didn't produce good players, but the player had great tools to work with and developed after time to be coached.

Webb isn't Rodgers nor will he ever be, but he could be a quality starter if he is properly developed.

Quesadilla Joe 04-24-2017 04:48 AM

From Peter King's MMQB...

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I won’t be surprised if the Giants (seeking a tackle), scheduled to pick 23rd, or the Texans (seeking a quarterback), scheduled to pick 25th, move up into the teens. Baltimore (16) and Tennessee (18) would be happy to move down.
http://mmqb.si.com/mmqb/2017/04/24/c...sky-peter-king

DJ's left nut 04-24-2017 09:19 AM

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“He’s dirty tough,” said a second scout....
I have never heard a football person NOT named Andy Reid use that description.

It wouldn't shock me at all if that 'second scout' comes from the Chiefs tree and they had someone with eyes on Chad Kelly.

rico 04-24-2017 12:34 PM

Staylor, you see that Kaaya scored a 34 on his Wonderlic? Highest score in this year's QB class.

staylor26 04-24-2017 12:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rico (Post 12837081)
Staylor, you see that Kaaya scored a 34 on his Wonderlic? Highest score in this year's QB class.

I saw that. Doesn't surprise me one bit. He's very intelligent and his football IQ is fantastic. Richt said he's never had a QB that sees the field like Kaaya, and he's been around some good ones.

rico 04-24-2017 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12837085)
I saw that. Doesn't surprise me one bit. He's very intelligent and his football IQ is fantastic. Richt said he's never had a QB that sees the field like Kaaya, and he's been around some good ones.

Kid threw 27 TD's to 7 INT's this year. 69 TD's to 24 INT's for his 3 year career at Miami.

I don't know why the kid isn't receiving any more hype than he is. This guy may be the steal of the draft.

O.city 04-24-2017 12:55 PM

Cause he's not very good?

staylor26 04-24-2017 12:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12837132)
Cause he's not very good?

:cuss:

The Franchise 04-24-2017 01:51 PM

All the reports I've seen state that he panics under pressure and he's not mobile at all.

Quesadilla Joe 04-25-2017 10:34 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Webb1<br>My one mock regret: not having Davis Webb low in round 1. Has a heck of a chance to be there, from a team trading up from round 2.</p>&mdash; Peter King (@SI_PeterKing) <a href="https://twitter.com/SI_PeterKing/status/856881256059084800">April 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Webb2<br>Teams in rd 1 can be bound to picks for 5 yrs w/5th-yr option. Rd 2: 4-yr max. Big for guy like Webb, who may not play, say, till ’19.</p>&mdash; Peter King (@SI_PeterKing) <a href="https://twitter.com/SI_PeterKing/status/856883090987331584">April 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
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DJ's left nut 04-25-2017 10:40 AM

I think it's going to be Webb.

Reid is going to have a raging hard-on for his film-review. He's going to see this guy as a more aggressive, less athletic Alex Smith and a future leader in the QB room.

I don't think Mahomes will be there and I don't think Dorsey will trade up because I think they both expect to be able to get Webb at the back of the 1st.

O.city 04-25-2017 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12838405)
I think it's going to be Webb.

Reid is going to have a raging hard-on for his film-review. He's going to see this guy as a more aggressive, less athletic Alex Smith and a future leader in the QB room.

I don't think Mahomes will be there and I don't think Dorsey will trade up because I think they both expect to be able to get Webb at the back of the 1st.

I know some of the picks won't hit, but I hate giving up picks especially for what it will take to get Mahomes. He's just too perfect of s fit for Arians offense for the cards to pass on I think.

This team is really good, but needs some depth and starters in d.

If Foster and Webb are there at 27, I'd take ine and be prepared to trade up to 28 for the other.

DJ's left nut 04-25-2017 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12838412)
I know some of the picks won't hit, but I hate giving up picks especially for what it will take to get Mahomes. He's just too perfect of s fit for Arians offense for the cards to pass on I think.

This team is really good, but needs some depth and starters in d.

If Foster and Webb are there at 27, I'd take ine and be prepared to trade up to 28 for the other.

Likewise. That was my scenario in the Foster failed test thread. It might take you next year's 1st to get that pick (GB is a good target there), but it might be worth it.

O.city 04-25-2017 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12838419)
Likewise. That was my scenario in the Foster failed test thread. It might take you next year's 1st to get that pick (GB is a good target there), but it might be worth it.

Sure. Do it.

They won't have a chance next year for a player like Foster anyway

O.city 04-25-2017 10:56 AM

Foster falling would be a blessing. That's how said teams like the pats and steelers picking later every year sTay good. Bad teams pass on these guys because of ine reason or another, good teams with good coaching staffs and good infrastructure take them and it works out.

If you could have Peters, Foster, and Jones on this d at the 3 levels foe the next 10 years, you'd be pretty excited

Sandy Vagina 04-25-2017 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12838405)
I think it's going to be Webb.

Reid is going to have a raging hard-on for his film-review. He's going to see this guy as a more aggressive, less athletic Alex Smith and a future leader in the QB room.

Similar thinking here, yet that extends to Nate Peterman on day 2 as well.

Unbroken, unrefined versions of Smith. Not as consistently accurate.. maybe still not as naturally athletic... but also not carrying a decade's worth of baggage for getting trampled by pro pass rushes.

RunKC 04-25-2017 12:37 PM

We will have to trade up a bit for Webb. Teams will be trying to get him with that 5th yr option.

Trade with miami

staylor26 04-25-2017 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12838591)
We will have to trade up a bit for Webb. Teams will be trying to get him with that 5th yr option.

Trade with miami

There is absolutely no way Webb will go before our pick. Nor should we trade up for him. Come on man.

O.city 04-25-2017 12:41 PM

I'm not trading up for anyone other than Mahomes, and I don't really like that.

RunKC 04-25-2017 12:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12838601)
There is absolutely no way Webb will go before our pick. Nor should we trade up for him. Come on man.

It's a QB league and that 5th year option is enormous. Teams in the early 2nd rd will absolutely think about trading up for Webb.

Ideally I would love to get Webb at 27 and then use multiple picks to trade up for Zach Cunningham or Raekwon McMillan in rd 2.

staylor26 04-25-2017 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12838615)
It's a QB league and that 5th year option is enormous. Teams in the early 2nd rd will absolutely think about trading up for Webb.

Ideally I would love to get Webb at 27 and then use multiple picks to trade up for Zach Cunningham or Raekwon McMillan in rd 2.

Now that's a plan I can get behind. I wouldn't trade up for McMillan but I'd gladly take him in the 2nd too.

Quesadilla Joe 04-25-2017 01:15 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/MikeSilver">@MikeSilver</a> just reported on &quot;Up to the Minute&quot; <a href="https://twitter.com/nflnetwork">@nflnetwork</a> the Browns have talked with 3 teams picking in top-8 about moving up from 12.</p>&mdash; Andrew Siciliano (@AndrewSiciliano) <a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewSiciliano/status/856949191183970304">April 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Quesadilla Joe 04-25-2017 01:32 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Jax is looking to take a QB at 4, don&#39;t know what high one</p>&mdash; Greg Gabriel (@greggabe) <a href="https://twitter.com/greggabe/status/856915477993598977">April 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">In Cleveland it&#39;s ownership that is pushing the Trubisky at 1 thing. The FB opps people want Garrett</p>&mdash; Greg Gabriel (@greggabe) <a href="https://twitter.com/greggabe/status/856896761671163904">April 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">SF has been playing the QB card to get Cleveland to either take Trubisky at one or trade with them at 2</p>&mdash; Greg Gabriel (@greggabe) <a href="https://twitter.com/greggabe/status/856889419927867397">April 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
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O.city 04-25-2017 01:37 PM

Jax taking a qb (I'd guess Watson ) would get things going quickly.

I'm starting to think this ends up being the Gabbert draft where these teams talk themselves into these guus, play them early and they suck

staylor26 04-25-2017 01:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12838676)
Jax taking a qb (I'd guess Watson ) would get things going quickly.

I'm starting to think this ends up being the Gabbert draft where these teams talk themselves into these guus, play them early and they suck

I think it's all smoke. Out of the 49ers, Jags, Jets, Bills, and Cards, maybe one will actually go QB in the 1st, but I doubt more than that.

DJ's left nut 04-25-2017 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12838706)
I think it's all smoke. Out of the 49ers, Jags, Jets, Bills, and Cards, maybe one will actually go QB in the 1st, but I doubt more than that.

I think they're all out there trying to bait each other and even taking other team's bait to send out there own.

For instance, I think the Cards going QB is probably bullshit. It just doesn't add up right now, not at 12. But if you're a team that's 5-6 spots ahead of them, you hear they're looking QB so you start sending out signals to suggest their QB might not be there at 12 so they need to move up to 8 to get their guy.

When 'their guy' is a fabrication.

It's bullshit born of bullshit at this point. I've reached the '**** it - stick to the board until 20' stage of the proceedings because I think there's a whole lot of bluffing going on right now.

staylor26 04-25-2017 01:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12838710)
I think they're all out there trying to bait each other and even taking other team's bait to send out there own.

For instance, I think the Cards going QB is probably bullshit. It just doesn't add up right now, not at 12. But if you're a team that's 5-6 spots ahead of them, you hear they're looking QB so you start sending out signals to suggest their QB might not be there at 12 so they need to move up to 8 to get their guy.

When 'their guy' is a fabrication.

It's bullshit born of bullshit at this point. I've reached the '**** it - stick to the board until 20' stage of the proceedings because I think there's a whole lot of bluffing going on right now.

Couldn't agree more.

I mentioned it in another thread, but if you're Fitz and Palmer, how do you not get pissed off when the Cards take a QB that needs at least a year on the bench over guys ready to have an impact now? Why would they come back for that? Also, something about Arians makes me think he'd feel the same way.

The Franchise 04-25-2017 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12838711)
Couldn't agree more.

I mentioned it in another thread, but if you're Fitz and Palmer, how do you not get pissed off when the Cards take a QB that needs at least a year on the bench over guys ready to have an impact now? Why would they come back for that? Also, something about Arians makes me think he'd feel the same way.

Arians said in an article that he wanted to leave the Cardinals with a QBoTF when he left. Doesn't necessarily mean that he has to do it this year. He could do it next year if he wanted to.

staylor26 04-25-2017 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12838718)
Arians said in an article that he wanted to leave the Cardinals with a QBoTF when he left. Doesn't necessarily mean that he has to do it this year. He could do it next year if he wanted to.

No doubt he will do that because Palmer's probably gone after this year, but Mahomes at 13 just doesn't sound right to me with the talent that will be available combined with those guys returning to try to win a SB.

I find it interesting that Peter King said the Cards "want a day 1 starter" in his mock.

TambaBerry 04-25-2017 02:13 PM

Think of the talent that would be there at 27 if all these teams actually took a QB. if 5 Qbs get taken we would have someone extremely talented fall to us. Then I wouldn't even be mad if they didn't take a qb even though I want one bad because I hate Alex Smith

staylor26 04-25-2017 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 12838737)
Think of the talent that would be there at 27 if all these teams actually took a QB. if 5 Qbs get taken we would have someone extremely talented fall to us. Then I wouldn't even be mad if they didn't take a qb even though I want one bad because I hate Alex Smith

This is why I think we're in a great position

DJ's left nut 04-25-2017 02:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 12838734)
No doubt he will do that because Palmer's probably gone after this year, but Mahomes at 13 just doesn't sound right to me with the talent that will be available combined with those guys returning to try to win a SB.

I find it interesting that Peter King said the Cards "want a day 1 starter" in his mock.

If the Cards were sitting 20 or if they had no recent history of success or even if the draft just wasn't all that good, maybe I could convince myself that they'd go QB.

But this is a team that was considered a legit SB contender in '16 who still has David Johnson and a dynamic offense and who is staring down the barrel of a LOADED draft that doesn't see it's first fall off until the mid-teens. They can get a guy at 13 that's no worse a bet than the guy that goes at 2, IMO. That's not necessarily the case at 16-17 but up where the Cards are, there are still guys that will be in the mix for top 5 consideration that will be available to them.

I just can't get there. I could be proven wrong but too much about that simply doesn't make sense.

RunKC 04-25-2017 02:27 PM

Cards will try to move up from the 2nd rd to get Kizer or Webb

Quesadilla Joe 04-26-2017 10:27 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">If Deshaun Watson is there in late 1, keep an eye on the <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash">#Texans</a>. His visit was overwhelmingly positive for all. He loved it, team did, too.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/857269155300560903">April 26, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Quesadilla Joe 04-26-2017 10:30 AM

Peter King just tweeted and then deleted this...


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kccrow 04-26-2017 10:36 AM

I kind of said it in another thread, but I basically look at the Jets and the Texans as the teams that "need" a QB. Jay Culter and Colin Kaepernick are still options these teams could visit in FA.

Alot of the rest of this could be a big plume of smoke by alot of teams to get teams that are legitimately interested at the end of the 1st to move around for these guys and have other players drop.

The Franchise 04-26-2017 10:38 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 12840055)
I kind of said it in another thread, but I basically look at the Jets and the Texans as the teams that "need" a QB. Jay Culter and Colin Kaepernick are still options these teams could visit in FA.

Alot of the rest of this could be a big plume of smoke by alot of teams to get teams that are legitimately interested at the end of the 1st to move around for these guys and have other players drop.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Texans?src=hash">#Texans</a>, if they don&#39;t get a QB in the draft, have at least some interest in Jay Cutler&#39;s services.</p>&mdash; Benjamin Allbright (@AllbrightNFL) <a href="https://twitter.com/AllbrightNFL/status/856921025841434624">April 25, 2017</a></blockquote>
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DJ's left nut 04-26-2017 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 12838765)
Cards will try to move up from the 2nd rd to get Kizer or Webb

Webb in the early 2nd or late 1st makes perfect sense for them.

We may want to embrace the horror here, gents - we can all envision a scenario where Arizona trades with us to move back into the 1st for a quarterback, right?

Our first (27 overall) for their 2nd, 3rd and comp 5th (45, 77, 179).

And then we use that extra 3rd on Nate !@#$ing Peterman. We take Zach Cunningham with the 2nd rounder we traded back to and grab a fat guy like Montravious Adams with our other 2nd while truefans everywhere just cuuuuuum and cuuum and cum.

Because Chiefs.

The Franchise 04-26-2017 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12840068)
Webb in the early 2nd or late 1st makes perfect sense for them.

We may want to embrace the horror here, gents - we can all envision a scenario where Arizona trades with us to move back into the 1st for a quarterback, right?

Our first (27 overall) for their 2nd, 3rd and comp 5th (45, 77, 179).

And then we use that extra 3rd on Nate !@#$ing Peterman. We take Zach Cunningham with the 2nd rounder we traded back to and grab a fat guy like Montravious Adams with our other 2nd while truefans everywhere just cuuuuuum and cuuum and cum.

Because Chiefs.

If that happens.....I will find you....and I will punch you.

Quesadilla Joe 04-26-2017 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow (Post 12840055)
I kind of said it in another thread, but I basically look at the Jets and the Texans as the teams that "need" a QB. Jay Culter and Colin Kaepernick are still options these teams could visit in FA.

Alot of the rest of this could be a big plume of smoke by alot of teams to get teams that are legitimately interested at the end of the 1st to move around for these guys and have other players drop.

I don't think Cutler and Kaepernick are really good fits for Houston because of Cutler's history with McDaniels, and McNair's views on Kaep. I could see Cutler with the Jets though.

O.city 04-26-2017 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12840068)
Webb in the early 2nd or late 1st makes perfect sense for them.

We may want to embrace the horror here, gents - we can all envision a scenario where Arizona trades with us to move back into the 1st for a quarterback, right?

Our first (27 overall) for their 2nd, 3rd and comp 5th (45, 77, 179).

And then we use that extra 3rd on Nate !@#$ing Peterman. We take Zach Cunningham with the 2nd rounder we traded back to and grab a fat guy like Montravious Adams with our other 2nd while truefans everywhere just cuuuuuum and cuuum and cum.

Because Chiefs.

I like it.

Quesadilla Joe 04-26-2017 10:52 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Wouldn’t be surprised to see a team trade back into round 1 for <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Cal?src=hash">#Cal</a>’s Davis Webb. One national scout said “He has Dak-like intangibles.”</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/857275405065211904">April 26, 2017</a></blockquote>
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TambaBerry 04-26-2017 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12840068)
Webb in the early 2nd or late 1st makes perfect sense for them.

We may want to embrace the horror here, gents - we can all envision a scenario where Arizona trades with us to move back into the 1st for a quarterback, right?

Our first (27 overall) for their 2nd, 3rd and comp 5th (45, 77, 179).

And then we use that extra 3rd on Nate !@#$ing Peterman. We take Zach Cunningham with the 2nd rounder we traded back to and grab a fat guy like Montravious Adams with our other 2nd while truefans everywhere just cuuuuuum and cuuum and cum.

Because Chiefs.

I hate you

DJ's left nut 04-26-2017 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 12840070)
If that happens.....I will find you....and I will punch you.

You know the feeling.

4th down; 1:30 left in the game, up 4 but the opponent has the ball and is driving. You watch the formation and think things are going to be alright. Then the QB gives a quick foot pump and the slot guy goes across the formation but nobody follows.

Suddenly Emmanuel Sanders is isolated on Jamell Fleming.

You watch the snap hopefully but you know how this is going to end. Oh sure, part of you says "Maybe Houston bends the edge and gets to the QB to interrupt the pass and we sneak out of here with the W" but deep down in your heart of hearts you know that Houston never actually makes that play, not when it has to happen. No, you know that Houston has probably been sent out into coverage and that this is all going to go horribly, horribly wrong.

"And the Kansas City Chiefs are on the clock...."

The ball is released - you think maybe THIS time, Fleming makes a break on the ball. Or maybe we finally rolled coverage and Berry will come underneath to break it up. Maybe THIS time, things will be different....

"We have a trade..."

But it's never different, Pest. It's never different. No, Jamell Fleming fell down again and for some reason Eric Berry is double teaming the TE...with Justin Houston. The ball sails unmolested to an open Emmanual Sanders who strolls into the end zone. It's all over but the crying. The hail mary's and the kneel downs - those are the inevitable fatties, defensive backs and backup quarterbacks we'll be drafting in the aftermath. They are all formalities - we all died inside the moment the ball was caught.

Because....Chiefs.

RunKC 04-26-2017 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12840068)
Webb in the early 2nd or late 1st makes perfect sense for them.

We may want to embrace the horror here, gents - we can all envision a scenario where Arizona trades with us to move back into the 1st for a quarterback, right?

Our first (27 overall) for their 2nd, 3rd and comp 5th (45, 77, 179).

And then we use that extra 3rd on Nate !@#$ing Peterman. We take Zach Cunningham with the 2nd rounder we traded back to and grab a fat guy like Montravious Adams with our other 2nd while truefans everywhere just cuuuuuum and cuuum and cum.

Because Chiefs.

Thanks for nightmares I will endure tonight DJ. This would be about it for me if it happens.

DJ's left nut 04-26-2017 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 12840080)
I like it.

Because you are a dentist and hate joy.

You thrive on the misery of others. It pays for your beach houses and your convertibles.

Even when you don't realize it, it's what fuels you - the pain and suffering of others.

So of course you love this plan.

kccrow 04-26-2017 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12840068)
Webb in the early 2nd or late 1st makes perfect sense for them.

We may want to embrace the horror here, gents - we can all envision a scenario where Arizona trades with us to move back into the 1st for a quarterback, right?

Our first (27 overall) for their 2nd, 3rd and comp 5th (45, 77, 179).

And then we use that extra 3rd on Nate !@#$ing Peterman. We take Zach Cunningham with the 2nd rounder we traded back to and grab a fat guy like Montravious Adams with our other 2nd while truefans everywhere just cuuuuuum and cuuum and cum.

Because Chiefs.

If I didn't like you a little bit, I'd punch you in the throat then curb stomp your teeth out and send you to O.City.

The Franchise 04-26-2017 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 12840086)
You know the feeling.

4th down; 1:30 left in the game, up 4 but the opponent has the ball and is driving. You watch the formation and think things are going to be alright. Then the QB gives a quick foot pump and the slot guy goes across the formation but nobody follows.

Suddenly Emmanuel Sanders is isolated on Jamell Fleming.

You watch the snap hopefully but you know how this is going to end. Oh sure, part of you says "Maybe Houston bends the edge and gets to the QB to interrupt the pass and we sneak out of here with the W" but deep down in your heart of hearts you know that Houston never actually makes that play, not when it has to happen. No, you know that Houston has probably been sent out into coverage and that this is all going to go horribly, horribly wrong.

"And the Kansas City Chiefs are on the clock...."

The ball is released - you think maybe THIS time, Fleming makes a break on the ball. Or maybe we finally rolled coverage and Berry will come underneath to break it up. Maybe THIS time, things will be different....

"We have a trade..."

But it's never different, Pest. It's never different. No, Jamell Fleming fell down again and for some reason Eric Berry is double teaming the TE...with Justin Houston. The ball sails unmolested to an open Emmanual Sanders who strolls into the end zone. It's all over but the crying. The hail mary's and the kneel downs - those are the inevitable fatties, defensive backs and backup quarterbacks we'll be drafting in the aftermath. They are all formalities - we all died inside the moment the ball was caught.

Because....Chiefs.

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