4-1 lead in the 8th...lose. Deja Vu

Officially the first game that Matheny has lost this year. Don’t worry, only 74 more losses to go.

Played not to lose offensively. Matheny too late with the pull. Trusted Leone to give him 2 innings.

Hicks had pitched two games in a row. He was unavailable. Holland will be here in a week to help the bullpen.

Has the 6th most managerial experience in MLB and still makes the same stupid mistakes he did as a rookie.

Mother****ers.

Does Holland blow that?

I really wanted Flaherty to get his first MLB win. One of my favorite prospects in a long time...I remember when we drafted him with that compensation pick we got for Beltran...my dad looked up a bunch of clips/info on him and I was blown away. I hope he stays on the roster this year...5 innings, 9 K’s, gave up 6 hits, only gave up 1 run...not bad.

He does if Matheny tries to make him go two innings.

Hicks doesn't. He's the real deal.

But, I dont blame Matheny for not using him. He's 21. Pitched in "A" ball last year. He pitched 2 days in a row. First day was 2 innings. Hick's is looking like a bonafide stud. 3 days in a row, this early in the season? Not even Matheny could be so stupid.

Matheny was dumb trying to get a 5 out save out of Leone though.

I agree Hicks looks good so far, let's see if he can keep it up for 70+ appearances.

Agreed. Relievers in 2018 dont go 2 innings successfully this early in the season. Matheny is an idiot. Maybe whoever he brings in blows it too but at least it was a fresh arm.

Gregerson. Leone and Holland will help the bullpen. If they are 80% of what they were in previous years and with the addition of Hicks, the bullpen this year should be a lot better than last years dumpster fire.

Chapmans fastball wasn't successful only because of the speed. It has/had late movement. Hitters couldn't square it up. So does Hick's fastball. It looks free and easy on his arm.

I sure hope meathead Matheny doesn't blow out this young talents arm.

I can somewhat see now why they wouldn't move Hicks or Flaherty for a rental.

Keep them this year, sell enough Buds and Busch at the games to pay for a superstar this offseason.

We have depth in positions that can be dealt to help other positions.

Wacha can only pitch through the lineup twice. If he gets through this season without any shoulder issues, thats two years in a row. His value should increase. He will still have 2 years of control left. If Kelly hits near .300 in AAA, he will regain the best catching prospect in the game value.

Put those 2 together with one of our outfield stud minor leaguers and we can get some high end help on offense.

Pay Manny his $350 million.

We will still have a starting rotation in 2019 to pick from of..

Martinez
Reyes
Weaver
Flaherty
Hicks
Hudson
Mikolas

A Championship window is wide open.

I keep seeing you say "Pay Manny his 350 mill". I seriously doubt they're going to load that much money into one guy. Frankly, I'd be shocked if Manny wasn't in the AL East next season.

As much as I love Machado, he'll be wearing pin stripes or Red Sox next year.

Manny is not happening...sorry. As silly as some loon thinking Odell would be a Chief....

Ohhh I know its not going to happen because Dewitt will never pull the trigger on that kind of deal.

My posts on this are what I'd do to get us back to potential championship caliber team. Not procrastinating on what moves Dewitt or Mo will actually do.

However the trade mentioned could happen with Dewitt and Mo pulling the trigger.

Matheny stretching him for 5 outs is certainly debatable, but the pitch selection was the difference, particularly to Yelich. The slider was starting to hang, at 2-2 go up under his hands with a fastball or paint the corner. Neither place can he hit it out even if he knows it’s coming. When Yadi put down another deuce I thought wtf. Paint the corner with a fastball down, we were getting that call all night.

Then we compound the error by calling the same on the first pitch to frog eyed Braun. Matheny is a dumbass, but those two pitch calls were just atrocious.

That’s why you don’t shake off Molina. Yadi should have kicked Leone in the nuts.

Just read an SI article about Tommy Pham, gotta say I think that dude is my favorite non Dodger out there. I hope he blows up. Check out that SI piece very interesting.

That is gonna be one of those loses we look back on in late September.

Yep, You can understand taking a loss and having a bad offensive day against Degrom and Thor.

a loss that we led the whole game, was in control, great starting pitching, offense and then just blew it late. It's still 1/162 but stupid losses like this always end up biting teams in the ass. :shake:

Waino back and Flaherty back down. Was hoping he'd get another start.

thats BS but understandable.

Flaherty obviously belongs in this starting rotation. They are not saving him for later. He’s still going to pitch, just will be in the minors.

and of course he comes back today and pitches a gem. Munoz booting the double play ball cost him the complete game.

Faced 31 batters. 3 hits. O runs. 10 strikeouts. Only 7 balls left the infield.

I saw he pitched a good one, but mlb.tv wouldn't let me watch when i got home.

Man. It's gonna be a cold weekend in STL .

The cold will steer people away from Ted Drewes and make the lines shorter, so don't complain.

Last time i was in STL it was about 100° every game. Oh well, today should be nice.

so how was the opening day festivities and ceremonies?

Awesome. Loved it. Waino -- not so much.

There is a lady passed out in the seat in front of me lol

Waino is trying to finess his way to pitching better because his stuff is not that good anymore. He throws a hittable pitch, it gets hammered like the pitcher did. Goes to 3-2 counts more times than not. Even if he gives up 3 runs in 5 innings, he’s going to tax the bullpen.

Sentimental last opening day start.

RIP Waino

meathead says it wasn’t sentimental.ROFL

Does anyone really think Waino is a better option in 2018 than Flaherty?

He’s been done for 2 years

Get the hook ready

Not sure which is worse, Waino pitching like a scared little girl or our offense unable to hit another junk throwing lefty or yet another defensive error.

All of the above? :hmmm:

Two work buddies are down there tonight, those guys have been real dicks lately... I hope the Crads get their asses smoked but good, set the tone for their whole damn season

Go away asshole! :cuss:

Ya lost the season opener too, didnt ya, ****face!!!

:bolt:

:D

you seem nice.

PBJ total sideline sniper when it comes to baseball, I'll leave it alone now lol

Someone called your name back in the Assault Weapon Thread in DC, go get em! :D

You're lucky i like you

Is yadi the only one who can hit a ball?

Dex barely missed that one. Warm night and it's gonzo

What a shitty game

The last time i saw ku play at Allen they lost
The last time i say the chiefs play at arrowhead they lost
...and now this.

I'm bad luck

It’s all your fault!:)

Or Waino, but mostly BD.

Waino got his sentimental reward for his past performances. The team took the loss as a consequence.

When Carpenter went down early in the year he stepped up his pitching to ace level. That curveball to Beltran, he was on the mound when l and my son got to see our team win a World Championship in person. Salu.

Flaherty has nothing left to prove throwing/wasting innings in Memphis. He’s at least our #3 starter right now. Y keeping him in Memphis, they are saying we care more about Waino than the team winning.

Waino needs to go into the pen. Aging stops for no one He can probably reach 92-93 with one inning of work. Put that with his still good curveball, he can help us in the pen in his final year.

Next year Waino can put on the well deserved red jacket.

His FB was in the mid high 80s after the 1st inning. That won't cut it.

Took the 1-3 game at lumiere place for about $600.

Paid for my weekend almost.

nice :clap:

Works out pretty well for Hendricks.

I think he's got another 3 or 4 years left in him. Time for one of those good ol' boy Molina type extensions.

Molina actually produces

Statistically he's been a below average hitter 2 out of the last 3 seasons and his defense has been declining for a while and his 3 year $60M extension just now kicked in when one of the best Cardinals prospects is a catcher.

dealing with team legends ain’t easy. Wait till Bryant etc reach FA, let’s see how well your team handles the situation.

I fully expect to see Bryant wearing different colors after hes eligible to be a FA unless he fires his agent. The Cubs have plenty of years to find a replacement.

Luckily Molina still produces and has easily been with keeping around. Not sure what stat our resident Cubs fan is using to say he has been a below average hitter.

I mean he only hit .273 last year and had his second highest home run total of his career.

And I'm pretty sure that yadi was the only cardinal to hit over. 300 in 2016

Molina may be shit in two years. Aging Catchers go south really quick. But right now, he’s still a top 3 catcher in the National league.

Oh i agree.. i just don't know what our resident cubs troll is talking about.

That is a troll. Most of us are pretty harsh on the team and have nothing bad to say about the deal.

OPS+, wRC+... take your pick.

If HRs were the end all measure of ones ability at the plate then Kyle Schwarber had a great year last season.

I would say 4th.

1) Posey
2) Contreras
3) Realmuto
4) Molina

And thats if he doesnt take a sharp nose dive because there are catchers out there that have put up comparable offensive numbers with slightly worse defense in recent years like Francisco Cervelli, though he's not managed to stay on the field and Molina has like 1000 more innings since Cervelli has been a Pirate. Austin Barnes appears to be a good catcher as well but I have no clue what the **** the Dodgers are trying to pull over there with Grandal.

My phone says it's 29° out. I wouldn't mind them delaying the start of this game an hour or two :|

The flag off the downtown Hilton is steadily waving horizontal too. 36° at first pitch.

Walk-a so far.

Carpenter sub .200 outside of the leadoffspot yet again....pathetic

looks cold as hell out there.

Martinez is a stud

Why is he playing over Gyrko?
/Rams Fan

Smart to let hicks have the 8th with where the lineup is

I'm out in left field by the foul pole and the sun has been directly overhead all game. Actually not too bad. The concourses are freezing cold with the wind blowing thru. I'm just in a t shirt and thermal undershirt.

Carp blows an easy out. Then Molina decides to make a point and have Hicks throw sliders the whole at bat. Ends up walking the guy. I don’t understand why you can’t make your point another day. It’s cold as hell. Why not just let him throw that 100 mph fastball in on their hands?

Ozuna seems like a pretty good dude. I know it's his 2nd home game, but he was super interactive with fans between innings while warming up.

yeah I’m sure the locker room needs more fun personalities. The locker room sucked last season. Players after the season admitted to clicks within the team.

I’m sure that the Bible study, chess playing and the everything is so deadly serious attitude of the manager doesn’t go over well with the younger players.