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smithandrew051 03-15-2024 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17445065)
if kelce is still running 20 mph and dusting elite safeties he's not demonstrably worse than he was

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Travis Kelce reached a top speed of 19.68 mph on his 22-yard reception to set up the Chiefs&#39; game-tying field goal, Kelce&#39;s fastest speed as a ball carrier over the last seven seasons.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SuperBowlLVIII?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SuperBowlLVIII</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/2R3b6kbNjJ">pic.twitter.com/2R3b6kbNjJ</a></p>&mdash; Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) <a href="https://twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1756880522993713404?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

That last DB that knocked out of bounds threw his entire body at Kelce.

If he misses that or glances off, Kelce scores.

Would’ve been ****ing epic.

Kman34 03-15-2024 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 17445066)
Probably still add a Wr in the draft. But a message was sent to Veach, we need to have Wr that get seperation. Patrick and Andy had a lo more fun when they score 40+ a game.

If we score 30 a game we will lap the league with that defense…

Bl00dyBizkitz 03-15-2024 10:44 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17445069)

Proof that he just needs load management.

Andy i think has admitted we've already started load management with him. And Trav himself has been avoiding big hits and contact in the regular season for a few years now.

ChiTown 03-15-2024 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17445064)
skip losing it LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/RealSkipBayless?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RealSkipBayless</a> weighs in on the Chiefs reportedly signing Marquise Brown: <a href="https://t.co/jaVgOo3tyZ">pic.twitter.com/jaVgOo3tyZ</a></p>&mdash; UNDISPUTED (@undisputed) <a href="https://twitter.com/undisputed/status/1768645820096917895?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

It's Skips realization that, as much as he hates talking about the Chiefs, he is gonna have to KEEP DEALING WITH THE CHIEFS!!!!:evil:

Hammock Parties 03-15-2024 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17445075)
That last DB that knocked out of bounds threw his entire body at Kelce.

If he misses that or glances off, Kelce scores.

Would’ve been ****ing epic.

I like it better the way it happened, because Mahomes got to pad stats. :evil:

Kman34 03-15-2024 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17445065)
if kelce is still running 20 mph and dusting elite safeties he's not demonstrably worse than he was

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Travis Kelce reached a top speed of 19.68 mph on his 22-yard reception to set up the Chiefs&#39; game-tying field goal, Kelce&#39;s fastest speed as a ball carrier over the last seven seasons.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/SuperBowlLVIII?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#SuperBowlLVIII</a> | <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/2R3b6kbNjJ">pic.twitter.com/2R3b6kbNjJ</a></p>&mdash; Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) <a href="https://twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1756880522993713404?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">February 12, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Taylors vagina must contain the fountain of youth…

PHOG 03-15-2024 10:57 AM

Bayless' tears are awesome!

PHOG 03-15-2024 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by smithandrew051 (Post 17445075)
That last DB that knocked out of bounds threw his entire body at Kelce.

If he misses that or glances off, Kelce scores.

Would’ve been ****ing epic.

Yes, and he paid the price too. I remember he could barely get up after a few minutes. IRRC

Balto 03-15-2024 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17445079)
Andy i think has admitted we've already started load management with him. And Trav himself has been avoiding big hits and contact in the regular season for a few years now.

You can see it. Like that long 20mph video, I remember being surprised to NOT see one of Kelce's famous hurdles over the defender.

raybec 4 03-15-2024 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Balto (Post 17445117)
You can see it. Like that long 20mph video, I remember being surprised to NOT see one of Kelce's famous hurdles over the defender.

So how long before you start proposing Hollywood trade scenarios?

VAChief 03-15-2024 11:07 AM

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Originally Posted by PHOG (Post 17445102)
Bayless' tears are awesome!

What did that dickwad say?

*never mind I just saw the video

Hammock Parties 03-15-2024 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17445101)
Taylors vagina must contain the fountain of youth…

i'm imagining athletic talent coursing through the vaginal canal, into kelce's cock and throughout his body ala the scene from wolverine where the asian dude tries to steal logan's healing factor

https://i.makeagif.com/media/3-10-2017/AzAWo-.gif

SD15 03-15-2024 11:14 AM

Good deal! I love it

PHOG 03-15-2024 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by VAChief (Post 17445134)
What did that dickwad say?

Oh, basically that he follows OU and Baker got the #1 overall draft spot because he was throwing to CeeDee Lamb and Hollywood Brown, and then Brown goes to the Ravens and he led all receivers there in Jackson's 1st MVP year.

And then that Brown runs a 4.27 40, and on and on and on.....ROFL

philfree 03-15-2024 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17445064)
skip losing it LMAO

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">.<a href="https://twitter.com/RealSkipBayless?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@RealSkipBayless</a> weighs in on the Chiefs reportedly signing Marquise Brown: <a href="https://t.co/jaVgOo3tyZ">pic.twitter.com/jaVgOo3tyZ</a></p>&mdash; UNDISPUTED (@undisputed) <a href="https://twitter.com/undisputed/status/1768645820096917895?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

I was looking for his 40 time. 4.2 speed? Oh! Okay!

DJ's left nut 03-15-2024 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties (Post 17445027)
LMAO Andy and Mahomes are going to cook everyone again.

It's the 2019 offense with a worse Tyreek but a better Sammy.

Maybe nearer the 2022 offense with a better JJSS, better MVS and worse Kelce.

The 2024 defenses aren't going to give us the kind of space down the field that offenses did in '18 and '19. But we'll see similar looks to 2022 and I think we've figure out how to deal with those.

Brooklyn 03-15-2024 11:18 AM

Doc Hollywood
https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/i...iKcAa3u2M3jUmP

Doc Brown
https://static.projectmanagement.com...s/docbrown.png

Doc Hollywood Brown? Get in the Delorean MF'ers, we're going Back to the Superbowl!

There you go Clay, I did the hard part for you.

staylor26 03-15-2024 11:20 AM

Crazy thing is that we have no idea how much better the WR group will look after the draft.

There's a good chance that we get a guy who can have an immediate impact, being the best WR3 this team has had in the Mahomes era.

DJ's left nut 03-15-2024 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Bl00dyBizkitz (Post 17445079)
Andy i think has admitted we've already started load management with him. And Trav himself has been avoiding big hits and contact in the regular season for a few years now.

It's the moves he doesn't try to make anymore that show he's learning to deal with aging a bit.

When he gets in the open field, he's not going to try to plant that foot and cut as often as he once did. He runs straight and finishes the run for another couple of yards after contact.

It's like watching late-stage Marcus Allen. Dude wasn't looking to make anyone miss because he knew his joints weren't up for the task. But he'd still do a little shimmy, brace himself and drive through you for a little bit more yardage.

Kelce's gonna be good; great in fact - but he's gonna be on a bit of a snap count and he's not gonna be the guy he was from about 2017 through 2022.

-King- 03-15-2024 11:21 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17445024)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Marquise Brown has reached 20+ mph on 33 routes since 2020, 2nd-most in the NFL behind former Chief Tyreek Hill.<br><br>Brown will look to add speed to a Kansas City wide receiver room that reached 20+ mph on a route just 5 times last season, 6th-fewest in the NFL.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/oEdsSMwkBi">https://t.co/oEdsSMwkBi</a> <a href="https://t.co/xlpDxtRxQs">pic.twitter.com/xlpDxtRxQs</a></p>&mdash; Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) <a href="https://twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1768669094361047505?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

https://i.gifer.com/KznA.gif

The Franchise 03-15-2024 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17445160)
It's the moves he doesn't try to make anymore that show he's learning to deal with aging a bit.

When he gets in the open field, he's not going to try to plant that foot and cut as often as he once did. He runs straight and finishes the run for another couple of yards after contact.

It's like watching late-stage Marcus Allen. Dude wasn't looking to make anyone miss because he knew his joints weren't up for the task. But he'd still do a little shimmy, brace himself and drive through you for a little bit more yardage.

Kelce's gonna be good; great in fact - but he's gonna be on a bit of a snap count and he's not gonna be the guy he was from about 2017 through 2022.

Hopefully Reid sits him down this offseason and has a talk about his emotions as he gets older. Everyone knows he wants to be out there for every snap but his body just isn't there anymore. You can't be throwing a tantrum like he did in the playoffs when Reid is trying to do what's best for him.

DJ's left nut 03-15-2024 11:22 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17445158)
Crazy thing is that we have no idea how much better the WR group will look after the draft.

There's a good chance that we get a guy who can have an immediate impact, being the best WR3 this team has had in the Mahomes era.

I was thinking about that this morning.

If the Chiefs do nothing else - INCLUDING in the draft - they'll have pass catchers on par or better than the 2022 offense.

Rice > JJSS
Brown > MVS
Kelce < 2022 Kelce

But the downgrade in Kelce will be more than offset by the upgrades at the WR spot.

So again, just get a little more juice at RB2 in terms of pass-catching and you may not even NEED to drastically upgrade at WR in the draft.

But we're gonna do it anyway. And that's the fun part.

Bl00dyBizkitz 03-15-2024 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17445154)
Maybe nearer the 2022 offense with a better JJSS, better MVS and worse Kelce.

The 2024 defenses aren't going to give us the kind of space down the field that offenses did in '18 and '19. But we'll see similar looks to 2022 and I think we've figure out how to deal with those.

2022 offense was #1 in the league, efficient and absolutely demolished top defenses. It's the most realistic model for a Mahomes led offense we can follow.

Hammock Parties 03-15-2024 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17445160)
It's the moves he doesn't try to make anymore that show he's learning to deal with aging a bit.

When he gets in the open field, he's not going to try to plant that foot and cut as often as he once did. He runs straight and finishes the run for another couple of yards after contact.

It's like watching late-stage Marcus Allen. Dude wasn't looking to make anyone miss because he knew his joints weren't up for the task. But he'd still do a little shimmy, brace himself and drive through you for a little bit more yardage.

Oh I love this comp. This is wonderful.

DJ's left nut 03-15-2024 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17445167)
Hopefully Reid sits him down this offseason and has a talk about his emotions as he gets older. Everyone knows he wants to be out there for every snap but his body just isn't there anymore. You can't be throwing a tantrum like he did in the playoffs when Reid is trying to do what's best for him.

Eh...I actually side a bit with Kelce there.

The Super Bowl ain't the time for snap counts, IMO. And even if it is, you'll never convince someone like Kelce of that, nor should you expect to.

He was over the top, sure. But I didn't have an issue with him being irritated. Now if he's doing that in week 11 - yeah, get over yourself there Trav. But he won't be. Remember, this is a guy who sat himself in week 17 and broke his consecutive games streak. A guy who evidently made the call himself in week 1 and missed the Lions game. A guy who often patted his helmet and took himself off the field after a big catch.

Kelce knows the drill. He did it damn well last year.

It'll be fine.

chiefzilla1501 03-15-2024 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17445158)
Crazy thing is that we have no idea how much better the WR group will look after the draft.

There's a good chance that we get a guy who can have an immediate impact, being the best WR3 this team has had in the Mahomes era.

I don’t think we are done. The amazing thing is, in the past we had a bunch of role guys hoping we can find our primary guys. Right now we have our primary guys and we can just find some role players at really good value. Filling the back of the rotation is the easy part. I still think we find some kind of a chain mover and a speed option before all is said and done.

And that’s not counting the draft where you can see us looking for a long term wr and/or te weapon.

Buckle up. It’s gonna be a hell of a ride.

philfree 03-15-2024 11:25 AM

So does Brown factor as a return man?

ghak99 03-15-2024 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The Franchise (Post 17445167)
Hopefully Reid sits him down this offseason and has a talk about his emotions as he gets older. Everyone knows he wants to be out there for every snap but his body just isn't there anymore. You can't be throwing a tantrum like he did in the playoffs when Reid is trying to do what's best for him.

Reid needs to have a sit down with Taylor and remind her that we need his legs more than she does. No wearing out our machine on Friday and Saturdays!

DJ's left nut 03-15-2024 11:29 AM

Man I'm gonna miss Travis when he's done.

What a goddamn great football player, teammate, story...all of it. From a kid that couldn't play in HS because he wouldn't study, to a kid who got thrown off his college team, to a guy who had microfacture surgery as a rookie, to a young veteran who was getting personal foul calls for throwing towels and 'hand-jobbing' the refs (both of which were funny as hell) to...this.

A guy that just ****ing gets it. Gets ALL of it. Amazing teammate, warrior on the field and I'm positive he's a bridge between guys like Mahomes (a bit more straight laced and 'company man') and Jones. How many times can a generational, first ballot HoF superstar also qualify as a 'glue guy' in your lockerroom? It's just so rare.

There is literally nothing more we can have ever asked of Kelce. And the story and the maturation process we've seen week over week, year over year; the appreciation he has of everything he's gone through and has....goddamn the guy is just letter perfect. He's not as important as Mahomes for obvious reasons, but he's more fun in many ways.

Getting old ****ing sucks. Play forever, Trav.

PHOG 03-15-2024 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 17445177)
So does Brown factor as a return man?

He hasn't since 2020, according to this. And that was just one kick return.

https://www.pro-football-reference.c...B/BrowMa04.htm

smithandrew051 03-15-2024 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17445154)
Maybe nearer the 2022 offense with a better JJSS, better MVS and worse Kelce.

The 2024 defenses aren't going to give us the kind of space down the field that offenses did in '18 and '19. But we'll see similar looks to 2022 and I think we've figure out how to deal with those.

2022 had a learning curve at times that I don’t think will be there in 2024.

That part is really exciting to me.

Tribal Warfare 03-15-2024 11:40 AM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-media-max-width="1080"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hollywood Brown signed with the Kansas City Chiefs..<br><br>He&#39;s gonna be an ABSOLUTE WEAPON for Patrick Mahomes <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/PMSLive?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#PMSLive</a> <a href="https://t.co/abaPSnfEWj">pic.twitter.com/abaPSnfEWj</a></p>&mdash; Pat McAfee (@PatMcAfeeShow) <a href="https://twitter.com/PatMcAfeeShow/status/1768671139570626793?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

OnTheWarpath15 03-15-2024 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17445169)
I was thinking about that this morning.

If the Chiefs do nothing else - INCLUDING in the draft - they'll have pass catchers on par or better than the 2022 offense.

Rice > JJSS
Brown > MVS
Kelce < 2022 Kelce

But the downgrade in Kelce will be more than offset by the upgrades at the WR spot.

So again, just get a little more juice at RB2 in terms of pass-catching and you may not even NEED to drastically upgrade at WR in the draft.

But we're gonna do it anyway. And that's the fun part.

Have been thinking about this all morning. Not much out there unless you're willing to take some risks, or bring back Jet.

You have anyone in mind?

IowaHawkeyeChief 03-15-2024 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17445182)
Man I'm gonna miss Travis when he's done.

What a goddamn great football player, teammate, story...all of it. From a kid that couldn't play in HS because he wouldn't study, to a kid who got thrown off his college team, to a guy who had microfacture surgery as a rookie, to a young veteran who was getting personal foul calls for throwing towels and 'hand-jobbing' the refs (both of which were funny as hell) to...this.

A guy that just ****ing gets it. Gets ALL of it. Amazing teammate, warrior on the field and I'm positive he's a bridge between guys like Mahomes (a bit more straight laced and 'company man') and Jones. How many times can a generational, first ballot HoF superstar also qualify as a 'glue guy' in your lockerroom? It's just so rare.

There is literally nothing more we can have ever asked of Kelce. And the story and the maturation process we've seen week over week, year over year; the appreciation he has of everything he's gone through and has....goddamn the guy is just letter perfect. He's not as important as Mahomes for obvious reasons, but he's more fun in many ways.

Getting old ****ing sucks. Play forever, Trav.

Troof... He's on the Mt Rushmore of Chiefs

Bl00dyBizkitz 03-15-2024 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17445182)
Man I'm gonna miss Travis when he's done.

What a goddamn great football player, teammate, story...all of it. From a kid that couldn't play in HS because he wouldn't study, to a kid who got thrown off his college team, to a guy who had microfacture surgery as a rookie, to a young veteran who was getting personal foul calls for throwing towels and 'hand-jobbing' the refs (both of which were funny as hell) to...this.

A guy that just ****ing gets it. Gets ALL of it. Amazing teammate, warrior on the field and I'm positive he's a bridge between guys like Mahomes (a bit more straight laced and 'company man') and Jones. How many times can a generational, first ballot HoF superstar also qualify as a 'glue guy' in your lockerroom? It's just so rare.

There is literally nothing more we can have ever asked of Kelce. And the story and the maturation process we've seen week over week, year over year; the appreciation he has of everything he's gone through and has....goddamn the guy is just letter perfect. He's not as important as Mahomes for obvious reasons, but he's more fun in many ways.

Getting old ****ing sucks. Play forever, Trav.

Arguably my favorite Chief ever. Mahomes is the traditional leader, but Kelce is absolutely the emotional heartbeat of the team.

Thank Andy Reid for him maturing, too. He gave him his space to express himself while also reigning him in to realize how much his teammates look up to him and would emulate his words and actions.

I dont think any other coach could've done the same, they would either be a total asshole type or a total pushover. Andy and Mahomes was the perfect marriage, but so is Andy and Kelce. He absolutely maximizes Kelce's potential.

staylor26 03-15-2024 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath15 (Post 17445208)
Have been thinking about this all morning. Not much out there unless you're willing to take some risks, or bring back Jet.

You have anyone in mind?

I'd sign Dobbins to a very cheap deal.

New World Order 03-15-2024 12:02 PM

I said this to a buddy yesterday.

I’d love Dobbins on a cheap deal

staylor26 03-15-2024 12:03 PM

Also, I'd sign Dobbins, and still consider drafting a RB as early as round 3.

Hell, if they trade Sneed and get an extra 2nd, I might talk myself into taking Brooks at 64.

duncan_idaho 03-15-2024 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17445169)
I was thinking about that this morning.

If the Chiefs do nothing else - INCLUDING in the draft - they'll have pass catchers on par or better than the 2022 offense.

Rice > JJSS
Brown > MVS
Kelce < 2022 Kelce

But the downgrade in Kelce will be more than offset by the upgrades at the WR spot.

So again, just get a little more juice at RB2 in terms of pass-catching and you may not even NEED to drastically upgrade at WR in the draft.

But we're gonna do it anyway. And that's the fun part.


I think if you look at the underneath weapons, 22 Kelce gave you more explosive YAC than 24 Kelce will, but Rice is a lot more dynamic than Smith-Schuster. So I think that’s a wash, honestly.

Then you’re down to Brown vs Valdez-Scantling, and while they’re roughly similar deep threats, Brown is able to do some much more off of his deep threat.

We’re going to see him absolutely demolishing some safeties and creating insane separation on corners and posts… at least until teams stop playing single high and sit in two deep all the time…

Mecca 03-15-2024 12:09 PM

I actually think Nyheim Hines would be a nice add, return man 3rd down back type.

Nevermind saw he signed somewhere.

Couch-Potato 03-15-2024 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17445024)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Marquise Brown has reached 20+ mph on 33 routes since 2020, 2nd-most in the NFL behind former Chief Tyreek Hill.<br><br>Brown will look to add speed to a Kansas City wide receiver room that reached 20+ mph on a route just 5 times last season, 6th-fewest in the NFL.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/oEdsSMwkBi">https://t.co/oEdsSMwkBi</a> <a href="https://t.co/xlpDxtRxQs">pic.twitter.com/xlpDxtRxQs</a></p>&mdash; Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) <a href="https://twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1768669094361047505?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Hmmmm. Seeing this makes X Worthy a bit more interesting IMO, I'd welcome Brooks, Benson, Wright, Lloyd, Corum, or Guerendo at RB as well. Chiefs could try and out speed the Dolphins!

gordonelloyd 03-15-2024 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17445169)
I was thinking about that this morning.

If the Chiefs do nothing else - INCLUDING in the draft - they'll have pass catchers on par or better than the 2022 offense.

Rice > JJSS
Brown > MVS
Kelce < 2022 Kelce

But the downgrade in Kelce will be more than offset by the upgrades at the WR spot.

So again, just get a little more juice at RB2 in terms of pass-catching and you may not even NEED to drastically upgrade at WR in the draft.

But we're gonna do it anyway. And that's the fun part.


I think things will be even a bit better than this because I expect we’re going to get a lot more out of Smith as the number 2 tight end and that will make it easier to rest Kelce.

redfan 03-15-2024 12:18 PM

I like this player. He's better'n CSamuel. YAYY Chiefs!!

Mecca 03-15-2024 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by gordonelloyd (Post 17445267)
I think things will be even a bit better than this because I expect we’re going to get a lot more out of Smith as the number 2 tight end and that will make it easier to rest Kelce.

Smith has been in the league awhile and never really done much so don't expect a ton, he's basically replacing Jody Fortson cause dude can't stay healthy.

BigRedChief 03-15-2024 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17445160)
It's the moves he doesn't try to make anymore that show he's learning to deal with aging a bit.

When he gets in the open field, he's not going to try to plant that foot and cut as often as he once did. He runs straight and finishes the run for another couple of yards after contact.

It's like watching late-stage Marcus Allen. Dude wasn't looking to make anyone miss because he knew his joints weren't up for the task. But he'd still do a little shimmy, brace himself and drive through you for a little bit more yardage.

Kelce's gonna be good; great in fact - but he's gonna be on a bit of a snap count and he's not gonna be the guy he was from about 2017 through 2022.

Yep, he is just going to have to realize this day has arrived. We really need you at 100% in the playoffs. Take some pride hits and go get that 3peat.

Marcellus 03-15-2024 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 17445028)
Good point. I made my post based upon something I read saying KC had $15M cap space before signing Brown (including Sneed tag) and now has about $8M, so I presumed the incentives were not likely to be reached. That was just speculation, though. I should have been more clear.

Nonetheless, getting Brown for $7M base is still impressive.

Its the same thing they did with JuJu coming off a down season so I bet most of the incentives are considered not likely to be reached because he had a down year last season in AZ.

51 receptions, 574 yards, and 4 TDs is the baseline.

I bet its something like 65 catches 750 yards and 6TDs or something like that.

O.city 03-15-2024 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17445243)
Also, I'd sign Dobbins, and still consider drafting a RB as early as round 3.

Hell, if they trade Sneed and get an extra 2nd, I might talk myself into taking Brooks at 64.

You ****er...these are my guys.

staylor26 03-15-2024 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by O.city (Post 17445280)
You ****er...these are my guys.

You should feel honored to be in agreement with me.

philfree 03-15-2024 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by wazu (Post 17445024)
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Marquise Brown has reached 20+ mph on 33 routes since 2020, 2nd-most in the NFL behind former Chief Tyreek Hill.<br><br>Brown will look to add speed to a Kansas City wide receiver room that reached 20+ mph on a route just 5 times last season, 6th-fewest in the NFL.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/oEdsSMwkBi">https://t.co/oEdsSMwkBi</a> <a href="https://t.co/xlpDxtRxQs">pic.twitter.com/xlpDxtRxQs</a></p>&mdash; Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) <a href="https://twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1768669094361047505?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

MVS on that list. After no other team signs him I'd bring him back on the cheap. Regardless of how we feel when he drops a pass defenses have to account for his speed. He knows the offense so as the 3rd or 4th WR option he'd be a fit.

staylor26 03-15-2024 12:27 PM

Brooks is so good. Many of us loved the thought of Gibbs last year, and he's a similar type of player. He would be such a great fit.

OnTheWarpath15 03-15-2024 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17445235)
I'd sign Dobbins to a very cheap deal.

That's where I'm landing, thus the risk comment.

wazu 03-15-2024 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 17445290)
MVS on that list. After no other team signs him I'd bring him back on the cheap. Regardless of how we feel when he drops a pass defenses have to account for his speed. He knows the offense so as the 3rd or 4th WR option he'd be a fit.

He's on that list because it dates back to 2020, but in the text of the tweet you see the entire KC WR corp only managed 5 such routes in 2023.

"Brown will look to add speed to a Kansas City wide receiver room that reached 20+ mph on a route just 5 times last season, 6th-fewest in the NFL."

LoneWolf 03-15-2024 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 17445101)
Taylors vagina must contain the fountain of youth…

Shake it off!!

https://www.shutterstock.com/image-p...-161601734.jpg

nychief 03-15-2024 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17445243)
Also, I'd sign Dobbins, and still consider drafting a RB as early as round 3.

Hell, if they trade Sneed and get an extra 2nd, I might talk myself into taking Brooks at 64.


This is bad RB draft, hence all the free agent signings in the early hours of FA.

Dobbins has had an achilles and an ACL in the same leg, I believe, I just don't know that he will ever be the same.

staylor26 03-15-2024 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by nychief (Post 17445366)
This is bad RB draft, hence all the free agent signings in the early hours of FA.

Dobbins has had an achilles and an ACL in the same leg, I believe, I just don't know that he will ever be the same.

I disagree that it's a "bad RB draft". It's like every other year where there's no 1st round caliber guys (only because Brooks' injury). The talent in rounds 2-4 is solid.

The free agent signings happened because it's one of the best FA RB classes we've ever seen. Those guys were all getting deals either way.

Couch-Potato 03-15-2024 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 17445290)
MVS on that list. After no other team signs him I'd bring him back on the cheap. Regardless of how we feel when he drops a pass defenses have to account for his speed. He knows the offense so as the 3rd or 4th WR option he'd be a fit.

MVS at his true value would be a great signing IMO

MahomesMagic 03-15-2024 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by staylor26 (Post 17445372)
I disagree that it's a "bad RB draft". It's like every other year where there's no 1st round caliber guys (only because Brooks' injury). The talent in rounds 2-4 is solid.

The free agent signings happened because it's one of the best FA RB classes we've ever seen. Those guys were all getting deals either way.

I know we don't take them that high but would LOVE Benson in this offense with Pacheco.

With Hollywood expect the shell looks again which means light boxes.

Benson and Pacheco would destroy people.

chiefzilla1501 03-15-2024 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree (Post 17445290)
MVS on that list. After no other team signs him I'd bring him back on the cheap. Regardless of how we feel when he drops a pass defenses have to account for his speed. He knows the offense so as the 3rd or 4th WR option he'd be a fit.

I don’t really agree. I think we have much bigger needs. I still want a Mike Williams type even if it’s a b-list version of it. And a speed catch and run, quick twitch guy who can take short stuff and even line up in the backfield. If all we need is a pure vertical go guy we don’t need to spend money on that. Just find a rookie who can fly.

King_Chief_Fan 03-15-2024 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17445275)
Its the same thing they did with JuJu coming off a down season so I bet most of the incentives are considered not likely to be reached because he had a down year last season in AZ.

51 receptions, 574 yards, and 4 TDs is the baseline.

I bet its something like 65 catches 750 yards and 6TDs or something like that.

I think you nailed it.

xztop123 03-15-2024 01:28 PM

Brown isn’t adding much speed over Mvs and he’s considerably worse at run blocking.

Where he helps is quickness agility ect.

Mvs was extremely limited in his route tree due to long stride. He is horrible at some routes so I consider brown a big improvement

MahomesMagic 03-15-2024 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 17445425)
Brown isn’t adding much speed over Mvs and he’s considerably worse at run blocking.

Where he helps is quickness agility ect.

Mvs was extremely limited in his route tree due to long stride. He is horrible at some routes so I consider brown a big improvement

Speed without a route tree or COD isn't scary.

Hollywood Brown is far scarier than MVS to an NFL defense.

IowaHawkeyeChief 03-15-2024 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17445175)
Eh...I actually side a bit with Kelce there.

The Super Bowl ain't the time for snap counts, IMO. And even if it is, you'll never convince someone like Kelce of that, nor should you expect to.

He was over the top, sure. But I didn't have an issue with him being irritated. Now if he's doing that in week 11 - yeah, get over yourself there Trav. But he won't be. Remember, this is a guy who sat himself in week 17 and broke his consecutive games streak. A guy who evidently made the call himself in week 1 and missed the Lions game. A guy who often patted his helmet and took himself off the field after a big catch.

Kelce knows the drill. He did it damn well last year.

It'll be fine.

^this^ ALL DAY LONG! In fact, I would have been disappointed if Kelce wasn't pissed. Did he take it a little far, of course, but he has a Coach who gets it and can handle it. Any other Coach probably would have melted there.

Couch-Potato 03-15-2024 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 17445425)
Brown isn’t adding much speed over Mvs and he’s considerably worse at run blocking.

Where he helps is quickness agility ect.

Mvs was extremely limited in his route tree due to long stride. He is horrible at some routes so I consider brown a big improvement

Well, we just signed blocking WR Chase Claypool to a 2-yr deal so there ya go!

MahomesMagic 03-15-2024 01:32 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Pat McAfee is spitting 100 percent facts about Hollywood Brown! 🔥 <a href="https://t.co/mOLlHPRYQl">pic.twitter.com/mOLlHPRYQl</a></p>&mdash; Brad Henson Productions (@BradHensonPro) <a href="https://twitter.com/BradHensonPro/status/1768696059025408150?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

DRM08 03-15-2024 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 17445425)
Brown isn’t adding much speed over Mvs and he’s considerably worse at run blocking.

Where he helps is quickness agility ect.

Mvs was extremely limited in his route tree due to long stride. He is horrible at some routes so I consider brown a big improvement

Hollywood appears to have better hands & ball skills than MVS

Imon Yourside 03-15-2024 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiTown (Post 17445080)
It's Skips realization that, as much as he hates talking about the Chiefs, he is gonna have to KEEP DEALING WITH THE CHIEFS!!!!:evil:

<iframe width="640" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/LURqmCbJ1EQ" title="UNDISPUTED | Win for Chiefs - Skip Bayless on HOLLYWOOD Marquise Browns to Kansas City on 1-yr/$7M" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe>

Longer version

He seems to have a little Reek in him :)

Megatron96 03-15-2024 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Couch-Potato (Post 17445407)
MVS at his true value would be a great signing IMO



God just no. Veach, if you’re reading this thread, couch-potato is cool, but this is a ****ing shitty idea. DONT YOU EFFING DARE DO SOMETHING THIS DUMB.


Please & thank you.

Sassy Squatch 03-15-2024 01:49 PM

If you believe PrettyRickey MVS and the Jets are talking

Imon Yourside 03-15-2024 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17445472)
If you believe PrettyRickey MVS and the Jets are talking

Reunited with the Vice Prez..... ;)

Megatron96 03-15-2024 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17445472)
If you believe PrettyRickey MVS and the Jets are talking



Please let Rickey come thru one more time

Easy 6 03-15-2024 03:41 PM

Solid little read about Browns potential impact on the offense

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...ef25fb5f&ei=82

IowaHawkeyeChief 03-15-2024 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Sassy Squatch (Post 17445472)
If you believe PrettyRickey MVS and the Jets are talking

Great, we will get him back for a 7th in December and he will catch the winning TD in SB59

Megatron96 03-15-2024 03:52 PM

At his best, Hollywood will be basically Tyreek lite. Nearly as fast, twitchy, almost the same ball tracking ability, athleticism, and so on.

He'll also probably be a little less consistent, might have a game or three where he looks more like Hardman than Hill, but that'll be the absolute floor, imo. And it'll be kind of rare.

One of the many things I'm looking forward to is Brown actually making an athletic adjustment to go get a pass when he has to, unlike Hardman/MVs. Should be a great show.

DJ's left nut 03-15-2024 03:53 PM

Hill was physical - Hollywood can't be.

At best, he'll be Deshaun Jackson.

And that suits me just fine.

Megatron96 03-15-2024 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17445637)
Hill was physical - Hollywood can't be.

At best, he'll be Deshaun Jackson.

And that suits me just fine.



Yeah, Brown can't be as physical as Hill was. But he will try to play bigger than he is. He's not scared. He's just not very big.

chiefzilla1501 03-15-2024 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by xztop123 (Post 17445425)
Brown isn’t adding much speed over Mvs and he’s considerably worse at run blocking.

Where he helps is quickness agility ect.

Mvs was extremely limited in his route tree due to long stride. He is horrible at some routes so I consider brown a big improvement

I also often mention having too many WRs who don’t have a feel. The other reason you had to throw the ball ahead of him is because dude would never attack the ball. Always drove me crazy how many catchable targets he missed because he waited for the ball to come to him.

MahomesMagic 03-15-2024 04:01 PM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 17445651)
I also often mention having too many WRs who don’t have a feel. The other reason you had to throw the ball ahead of him is because dude would never attack the ball. Always drove me crazy how many catchable targets he missed because he waited for the ball to come to him.

MVS would stumble as the ball was in the air.


LMAO

Nightfyre 03-15-2024 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17445637)
Hill was physical - Hollywood can't be.

At best, he'll be Deshaun Jackson.

And that suits me just fine.

Especially at the fraction of the cost of some other receivers.

Rausch 03-15-2024 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Nightfyre (Post 17445660)
Especially at the fraction of the cost of some other receivers.

That's the big plus. I figured for sure he'd be in that 10-15 mil range.

MahomesMagic 03-15-2024 05:01 PM

A signing that most of CP is behind except Over The Rainbow or whatever that analytics guy's name is that thinks Hollywood is an expensive Mecole.


He is going to look reeruned soon.


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