Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8757717)

2010 was Palmers worst year as a QB, throwing 20 int's

He was 3rd in the NFL that year in throwing interceptions...

Who was 1st and 2nd you ask?

Eli Manning and Drew Bress

And Peyton Manning threw 2 less int's than Palmer

In fact, Eli Manning has been in the top 3 in int's the last 3 years-

Maybe we should call it Manningceptions?

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8757675)

Joe Montana wasn't physically gifted.

He was relatively small, and had a relatively weak arm.

Drew Brees also has those same limitations.

Two of the best QBs ever because they excel/led mentally.

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 8757722)

Those guys are special and are franchise QBs. You can get by with those limitations if you're special. I was going for a lesser example lol like a Trent Green or a Flacco. Both those guys just weren't/aren't special but they were good enough to be game managers. :thumb:

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8757695)

This is all new information.

In a thousand Cassel threads, and a shit load of other threads that started out as unrelated to Cassel, these stats, and other even more damning ones, have never been discussed.

Originally Posted by Dave (Post 8757721)

If you win SBs, it don't matter how many INTs you toss.

Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8757738)

You guys are bidding with monopoly money

All this talk of 12 and 13 wins and being able to compete with any team is delusional -

How do the Chiefs give up almost 100 points in 2 games last year, add a CB that led the league in penalties and banking on an over rated rookie DT gonna now all of a sudden be considered a top 5 defense??.. how is this possible especially considering they were dead last in the NFL in scoring points

Have you seen the Chiefs first 8 games? It's frekin brutal.. Falcons, Bills, Saints, Chargers, Ravens, Bucs, Raiders, Chargers again and then the Steelers

The Raiders game is in Arrowhead...

The Raiders are 5-0 the last 5 years in Arrowhead- so expecting an easy W is fantasy

I could see the Chiefs splitting with the Chargers

Seriously, I would be very surprised if the Chiefs came outta that 8 game stretch with 3 wins, I see them coming out with just 2 wins - Bucs, and Chargers, I just don't see them beating the Falcons or the Bills whom put up 43 points on the Chiefs last year and just added Mario Williams- with exactly the same team you have now except for Routt and a rookie DT

Here's another stack of monoply money.. bet away young man.. move it all to the middle of the table

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8757735)

That's was the entire point of my post.

The bottom line is, you can win with a QB that has limitations physically if he has a superior grasp of the mental aspects of the game.

I am not so sure that this Chiefs team couldn't win with Green at QB.

Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8757738)

The Raiders are 5-0 the last 5 years in Arrowhead- so expecting an easy W is fantasy

Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8757743)

Lame comeback

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 8757758)

I think they could win with Green most definitely as he is better than Cassel. Having said that, I think we can win with Cassel this year as well. I'm a blind homer but I think we'll win the division this year but lose, again, in the first round of the playoffs. We have that much talent around Cassel now that he can achieve the Western crown despite him.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8757749)

This is why I rarely waste time talking to dumbass Raider fans.

Where did I say 12 or 13 wins?

Where the hell did I even say this team was going to break .500?

Do you not have the ability to understand that "7-9, at best" is my most optimistic projection for this team.

JFC, ****ing moron.

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8757595)

I believe this team has the talent to compete with any team in the league.

Originally Posted by Chronic (Post 8757767)

I wasnt directing the 12-13 win prediction your way, but saying..



And they didnt

You don't get blown out 2 weeks in a row by 43 and 48 points and put up just 10 points with the same team you think has the talent to compete with any team in the NFL this year

The math doesn't add up

You didnt make that much of an improvement that would convince me a betting man to lay my coin on the Chiefs anytime soon

Originally Posted by milkman (Post 8757765)

Once again, as I told dumbass Raider fan, when I say "win" I am talking about overall success.

I am talking about not only making the playoffs (which I don't believe we will do with Matt Cassel this year), but actually advancing and competing for a SB.

Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones (Post 8757795)

I'm just stating my opinion on this upcoming season this has nothing to do really with the discussions and your ownage of dumbass Raider fan.