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MarkDavis'Haircut 06-25-2018 08:07 PM

The cisgender label needs to die.

Bowser 06-26-2018 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By (Post 13605232)
Go for the video. Stay for the article. I didn't bother with the comments, but that's obviously up to you.



http://acecomments.mu.nu/?post=375856

The end of the article -

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Doubling Down and Redoubling Down: Apparently an official employee of Lucasfilm, writing for the "official" StarWars.com website, has decided to inform people that they are not "customers" of Lucasfilm and Lucasfilm owes them nothing at all, not even polite treatment.
She seems to be echoing Kathleen Kennedy, who has previously declared that she owes nothing to the male fans of Star Wars (who, let's face it, have maintained the value of the franchise for 40+ years):

"I have a responsibility to the company that I work with. I don't feel that I have a responsibility to cater in some way. I would never just seize on saying, 'Well, this is a franchise that's appealed primarily to men for many, many years, and therefore I owe men something.'"
Well then. Feel free to get busy going and ****ing yourself, Kathleen Kennedy.

MarkDavis'Haircut 06-26-2018 03:41 PM

They don't realize that without the fans, Star Wars would just be a forgotten 70s flick replaying at 3 am on some generic channel.

I am not saying that you run every decision by the fan base but at the very least, review their opinions and feedback.

But agendas must be maintained.

Tribal Warfare 06-26-2018 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 13606834)
They don't realize that without the fans, Star Wars would just be a forgotten 70s flick replaying at 3 am on some generic channel.

I am not saying that you run every decision by the fan base but at the very least, review their opinions and feedback.

But agendas must be maintained.

It's Hollywood's hubris that know they know more than the customer/fan

MarkDavis'Haircut 06-26-2018 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Tribal Warfare (Post 13606911)
It's Hollywood's hubris that know they know more than the customer/fan

And that attitude extends beyond movies. See their (often hypocritical) views on gun control.

Prison Bitch 06-26-2018 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 13606834)
They don't realize that without the fans, Star Wars would just be a forgotten 70s flick replaying at 3 am on some generic channel.

I am not saying that you run every decision by the fan base but at the very least, review their opinions and feedback.

But agendas must be maintained.

It's hubris to overrate your importance. S can survive just fine without 40 year old dudes like me. My kids (and their female cousins who came with Sat) don't care about the original trilogy and the franchise survives just fine.

It also thrives globally, so again: don't be sure we are that important

Tribal Warfare 06-26-2018 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Prison Bitch (Post 13606936)
It's hubris to overrate your importance. S can survive just fine without 40 year old dudes like me. My kids (and their female cousins who came with Sat) don't care about the original trilogy and the franchise survives just fine.

It also thrives globally, so again: don't be sure we are that important

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/he...empire-1116927

JD10367 06-26-2018 08:00 PM

The most important part of that article:

One point she alludes to, which she made before: She thinks that Star Wars never appealed to Kathleen Kennedy. Kathleen Kennedy didn't like the franchise, because it was, indeed, a boys' adventure franchise.

Instead of making a boys' adventure franchise she didn't get and didn't like, she made it into something she could like: a girls' empowerment fantasy.

This kind of sums up the problem with Social Justice Warriors taking over male-skewing sections of pop culture: They just don't like it. They never did like it. Some of them even feel that these parts of pop culture encourage "toxic masculinity," and therefore are evil.

And therefore must be subverted and remade into something they never were before.

So you... put multimillion dollar companies into the hands of people who don't like the product those companies sell and in fact might even hate?

Well, good luck with that, I guess.

Frazod 06-26-2018 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by JD10367 (Post 13607116)
The most important part of that article:

One point she alludes to, which she made before: She thinks that Star Wars never appealed to Kathleen Kennedy. Kathleen Kennedy didn't like the franchise, because it was, indeed, a boys' adventure franchise.

Instead of making a boys' adventure franchise she didn't get and didn't like, she made it into something she could like: a girls' empowerment fantasy.

This kind of sums up the problem with Social Justice Warriors taking over male-skewing sections of pop culture: They just don't like it. They never did like it. Some of them even feel that these parts of pop culture encourage "toxic masculinity," and therefore are evil.

And therefore must be subverted and remade into something they never were before.

So you... put multimillion dollar companies into the hands of people who don't like the product those companies sell and in fact might even hate?

Well, good luck with that, I guess.

So basically, it's what would happen if you made me GM of the Broncos. :)

Icon 06-27-2018 04:26 PM

I don't know how credible this story is but:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/32378...nedy-paul-bois



Hold out, "Star Wars" fans. Your protest of the SJW-plagued franchise may finally get Lucasfilm head Kathleen Kennedy ousted from her position, because word on the street is Disney CEO Bob Iger knows she's on the verge of killing the Golden Goose and is now searching for someone to revive it.

In a special report from Grace Randolph at Beyond The Trailer, Bob Iger recently held a secret meeting with Disney top brass, including the head of Pixar and Marvel, on ways to fix the broken franchise, which began its death spiral with "The Last Jedi" and then was pronounced mostly dead with the box-office failure that is this summer's "Solo: A Star Wars Story."

It's an open and shut case: "Star Wars" fans reject the direction that Kathleen Kennedy has taken the franchise, and they should, considering that the veteran producer once infamously said she felt no responsibility to "cater" to the predominantly male fanbase that has carried the space opera through both light and darkness throughout the decades.

Not that "Star Wars" should not evolve with the times and avoid refreshing creative choices. The problem is that Kennedy destroyed the "Star Wars" legacy and put a half-baked, heartless carbon-copy in its wake. The whole franchise feels less like a creative labor of love and more like a cheap cash grab that cons the public into buying tickets based on brand recognition alone, all the while pushing messages about feminism and capitalist greed. Nobody likes it and feminists are too few and far between.

So now Disney has a dead horse on its hands and has no idea what to do with it. The simple solution — cleaning house by firing Kennedy — will not be easy. According to Grace Randolph, insiders say that if Iger just up and fires her, nobody in Hollywood has the cajones to take the reins as she would leave behind a house of loyalists who will have the daggers out for whoever fills her shoes. Here's how the secret call went down, according to Randolph:

There was a call, a secret conference call with all the top Star Wars brass in attendance, the kind of call where, apparently, security guards stand outside the different conference room doors and makes sure that no one eavesdrops. But here's the kicker. Top brass at not only Star Wars, but also Marvel and Pixar, were also in on the call, but listening only, likely at the request of Bob Iger, who wants their advice on how to fix this s--tshow. And yes, he does know it's a s--tshow. Evidence? The word that he wants Kathleen Kennedy out. He actually does, but, nobody will take her job. Several have been approached, but turned down, including J.J. Abrams, who turned it down flat and didn't even hesitate.
Why does nobody wanna run Star Wars? Well, it's probably pretty obvious for many of you, but let me spell it out for you. And that's in risk-averse Hollywood, nobody wants to run a house divided, which apparently is what Kathleen Kennedy has created. It's divided between her loyalists, which she brought in and wear those "Force is Female" t-shirts, and the loyalists to the brand itself that were there before Kathleen."
The in-fighting fits insider reports that Disney has halted the production on all "Star Wars" anthology films following the failure of "Solo" this past summer. With the release of Episode IX come 2019, "Star Wars" will have to create a whole other trilogy that entices the fans once again. Kathleen Kennedy has done everything to ensure that never happens.

Fish 06-27-2018 04:32 PM

Nobody wants Kathleen Kennedy's job? The hell are they talking about?

oaklandhater 06-27-2018 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13608297)
Nobody wants Kathleen Kennedy's job? The hell are they talking about?

Grace is pretty spot on in hollywood and she is reporting the same shit.

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The person who takes the job has to clean house and fire all the KK work force.


Also has to try and bring 2 fan bases who are sharing a massive split back together.


TLJ really did a number on SW.

Frazod 06-27-2018 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Icon (Post 13608288)
I don't know how credible this story is but:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/32378...nedy-paul-bois



Hold out, "Star Wars" fans. Your protest of the SJW-plagued franchise may finally get Lucasfilm head Kathleen Kennedy ousted from her position, because word on the street is Disney CEO Bob Iger knows she's on the verge of killing the Golden Goose and is now searching for someone to revive it.

In a special report from Grace Randolph at Beyond The Trailer, Bob Iger recently held a secret meeting with Disney top brass, including the head of Pixar and Marvel, on ways to fix the broken franchise, which began its death spiral with "The Last Jedi" and then was pronounced mostly dead with the box-office failure that is this summer's "Solo: A Star Wars Story."

It's an open and shut case: "Star Wars" fans reject the direction that Kathleen Kennedy has taken the franchise, and they should, considering that the veteran producer once infamously said she felt no responsibility to "cater" to the predominantly male fanbase that has carried the space opera through both light and darkness throughout the decades.

Not that "Star Wars" should not evolve with the times and avoid refreshing creative choices. The problem is that Kennedy destroyed the "Star Wars" legacy and put a half-baked, heartless carbon-copy in its wake. The whole franchise feels less like a creative labor of love and more like a cheap cash grab that cons the public into buying tickets based on brand recognition alone, all the while pushing messages about feminism and capitalist greed. Nobody likes it and feminists are too few and far between.

So now Disney has a dead horse on its hands and has no idea what to do with it. The simple solution — cleaning house by firing Kennedy — will not be easy. According to Grace Randolph, insiders say that if Iger just up and fires her, nobody in Hollywood has the cajones to take the reins as she would leave behind a house of loyalists who will have the daggers out for whoever fills her shoes. Here's how the secret call went down, according to Randolph:

There was a call, a secret conference call with all the top Star Wars brass in attendance, the kind of call where, apparently, security guards stand outside the different conference room doors and makes sure that no one eavesdrops. But here's the kicker. Top brass at not only Star Wars, but also Marvel and Pixar, were also in on the call, but listening only, likely at the request of Bob Iger, who wants their advice on how to fix this s--tshow. And yes, he does know it's a s--tshow. Evidence? The word that he wants Kathleen Kennedy out. He actually does, but, nobody will take her job. Several have been approached, but turned down, including J.J. Abrams, who turned it down flat and didn't even hesitate.
Why does nobody wanna run Star Wars? Well, it's probably pretty obvious for many of you, but let me spell it out for you. And that's in risk-averse Hollywood, nobody wants to run a house divided, which apparently is what Kathleen Kennedy has created. It's divided between her loyalists, which she brought in and wear those "Force is Female" t-shirts, and the loyalists to the brand itself that were there before Kathleen."
The in-fighting fits insider reports that Disney has halted the production on all "Star Wars" anthology films following the failure of "Solo" this past summer. With the release of Episode IX come 2019, "Star Wars" will have to create a whole other trilogy that entices the fans once again. Kathleen Kennedy has done everything to ensure that never happens.

Hmm, that sounds familiar......

Beef Supreme 06-27-2018 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Fish (Post 13608297)
Nobody wants Kathleen Kennedy's job? The hell are they talking about?

Well, nobody that already has a big name wants the job. They aren't offering it to anybody who doesn't already have a big name, and the people that do figure it's a huge risk and they don't need the money or recognition anyway.

BigCatDaddy 06-27-2018 07:54 PM

Trying to think of a bigger cluster **** in movie history. This was a license to print money. Nobody wanted some cinematic masterpiece... just ****ing Star Wars as we know Star Wars. JFC.


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