Originally Posted by Frazod (Post 17377107)

Whenever Pat is asked about an upcoming game/matchup, he always says "I'm looking forward to the challenge."

When Lamar was asked about playing Mahomes, he said, "I don't want to play him at all."

Kudos for honesty, kid, but champions don't think/talk like that.

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17372014)

He made one pass and one that was incomplete that I said... that was a nice throw. A lot of rainbows and wide open throws.

My standards might be a bit high though when Mahomes is throwing guys open and doing back hip throws and shit.

Originally Posted by Shields68 (Post 17377093)

I think they always planed to pay him until he hits 30 and I doubt that has changed based upon this game. He is still one of those electric players that a team needs to game plan around. He does not take hardly any big hits and that quickness he will be fine until then. After this contract will be a question. Flowers is making him look a lot better as a thrower.

Though in fairness I do not think he played a terrible game. The under throw to Lively in triple coverage was the one glaring mistake. Spags out coached them. Gave them personnel packages and blitz's they were not used to seeing. That is for sure. But they had an oppurtunity. Patrick kept them off the field in the first half they did not establish a rythm. Never figured out if they could run the ball. They moved the football in the second half but a lot of stupid plays not all of which were done by Jackson.

Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 17377116)

He's still one of the quickest and fastest QB's ever, but not quite the same guy from earlier years. He'll need to keep improving as a passer to help offset a loss of athleticism in his later years.

Originally Posted by frozenchief (Post 17376849)

Scott Kacsmar wrote an interesting column about Sunday's games. Heavy on an analytical perspective, he noted that Lamar:

Lamar was 1-3 against the high-flying Chiefs of 2018-21, only winning in 2021 against their worst defense in a game where he still threw multiple picks and needed CEH to fumble in game-winning field goal territory.

Lamar is 3-14 against playoff teams that score more than 21 points against his team.

Why more than 21? Mahomes led the Chiefs to at least 22 points in 15-of-16 career playoff games before Sunday.

Why not include 21 points? Because scoring 21 points is a below-average scoring figure for every NFL season since 2007.

Finally, Lamar was 0-3 in the playoffs when teams scored more than 13 points, already losing 23-17 to the Chargers and 17-3 to Buffalo in a game where he threw a pick-six.

He doesn't come right out and say it (well, he almost does) but it's clear he thinks that Lamar is a decent QB who happens to play on a team with a great defense. You talk about damning Lamar with faint praise. He points out that in EVERY year that Lamar makes the playoffs, Lamar leads his offense to his lowest point total of the season. Further, this is Lamar's 4th wire-to-wire loss in the playoffs. A wire-to-wire loss is a loss in which the QB's team never leads.

Kacsmar doesn't say it but Lamar really is a running back who is playing at the QB position.

Article is here:

https://captaincomeback.blog/2024/01...ionship-games/

It's well worth a read. Started perusing his website and it looks worth examining in more detail.

Originally Posted by tredadda (Post 17377186)

Despite all of this he could still be considered a HOF QB when it’s all said and done because of two MVPs. Fascinating to say the least.

Originally Posted by Bearcat (Post 17374654)

Not sure I'd put him that low, but I've never really watched him and thought, holy shit this guy is special. Then again, he's also smarter than Allen, so while he doesn't have the same level of athleticism, you're trading for some hero ball and leading the league in turnovers.... so, boring is better to some degree, I guess.

Originally Posted by Wallcrawler (Post 17377173)

Mentally, Lamar doesn't have the toughness. You could see the dude was shaking like a dog shitting razorblades inside as soon as we went up two scores.

His sideline demeanor and body language is ****ing terrible. He's not rallying anyone, he's not gameplanning, he's just stewing in his own inferiority complex.

Each of these losses is now a force multiplier for his next playoff appearance. That pressure to win is going to crush him to the point that he cannot perform at all.

The contrast between Lamar and Mahomes is hilarious.

Imagine Lamar Jackson losing the lead with 13 seconds left.

Imagine Lamar Jackson getting blasted 24-0 in the first quarter.

Do you see this dude in any way shape or form able to mentally respond to that?

Me neither.

Lamar could win a superbowl in the instance everything goes perfect, their defense scores some points, and they just boat race everyone. Lamar is a dangerous front runner.

Originally Posted by crispystl (Post 17377115)

He missed a couple guys that were WIDE open. I think both were pretty deep outside the hashes.