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DJ's left nut 05-07-2024 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawker007 (Post 17511978)
He has to learn to hit the ball to the left side. He pulls/rolls over every pitch.

Eh - nothing wrong with a guy with solid but unspectacular raw power trying to pull the ball, but he's gotta keep his lower half in if he's gonna do that.

That bottom half comes open too early and that's when you start coming over top of the ball and rolling it to 2b.

I wouldn't want him 'playing the slice' just yet. Because his hit tool is good enough to make him a 25-30 HR player and a real nice run producer in the 5 spot.

I think the kind of target you'd like to see for him would be someone like Adrian Gonzalez? Or if you'd prefer a direct Royals comp, what about Raul Ibanez (offensively)? I think he could be that sort of player.

cmh6476 05-07-2024 01:54 PM

If the Royals win tonight, and the Twins lose, one or the other Guardians or Tigers lose and that would be a good nice for baseball.

Hawker007 05-07-2024 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17511984)
Eh - nothing wrong with a guy with solid but unspectacular raw power trying to pull the ball, but he's gotta keep his lower half in if he's gonna do that.

That bottom half comes open too early and that's when you start coming over top of the ball and rolling it to 2b.

I wouldn't want him 'playing the slice' just yet. Because his hit tool is good enough to make him a 25-30 HR player and a real nice run producer in the 5 spot.

I think the kind of target you'd like to see for him would be someone like Adrian Gonzalez? Or if you'd prefer a direct Royals comp, what about Raul Ibanez (offensively)? I think he could be that sort of player.

I get it, but I'm just more old school in my hitting approach. If a ball is pitched on the outside corner, take it that way and don't try to pull it. But I can say the same thing for Isbel and Frazier, and probably have a stronger point with those guys as they don't have the same pull-pop that Vinny has, not even close.

DJ's left nut 05-07-2024 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Hawker007 (Post 17512044)
I get it, but I'm just more old school in my hitting approach. If a ball is pitched on the outside corner, take it that way and don't try to pull it. But I can say the same thing for Isbel and Frazier, and probably have a stronger point with those guys as they don't have the same pull-pop that Vinny has, not even close.

Sure, but if you keep your front in and maintain a standard (not sell-out) pull approach, you'll drive that pitch on the outside up the middle. And if you pick it up early enough, you can still catch it out front and drive it out to RC as a lefty.

I just think he's someone you want to treat differently than, as you said, Isbel. The Cardinals broadcasters used to get way up their own asses with guys like Allen Craig and say "Yeah, you can really tell when he's hitting it well when he's going opposite field..."

Well...not really. A lot of the times that's just him getting jammed. Guys with good bat to ball skills and good but not great raw power, can REALLY benefit from a more concerted pull approach because it allows them to unlock their ability to drive the ball. When they start to try to spray oppo, pitchers will notice that and attack them inside. Now they're getting fisted and hitting slow rollers on the infield that they'd have sent 415 had they not been tinkering.

Most dude just aren't gonna be Albert Pujols. Very few guys can truly be an all-fields hitter and maintain solid power and run production. With Vinnie, I think he's better served focusing on a strength than trying to cover any weaknesses.

poolboy 05-07-2024 03:16 PM

I would like to see Vinnie choke up with
runners on base and down in the count :thumb:

GabyKeepsMeWarm 05-07-2024 04:17 PM

Maybe Vinnie should be a "bunt first" type of guy, yeah, that's the ticket!

dlphg9 05-07-2024 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 17511909)
They finally fixed it so I don't have to log in every single day so I do appreciate that!

It is embarrassing for then they have that ballys placeholder commercial on repeat because they cant get anyone to advertise there.

That ****ing sports noise commercial is the god damn worst.

Pablo 05-07-2024 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 17512415)
That ****ing sports noise commercial is the god damn worst.

It's on right now and I hate it.

Here's a basketball dribbling and some shoe squeaks. That'll be $20/month please

Vladimir_Kyrilytch 05-07-2024 06:48 PM

It merits mention that Vinnie is attempting to come back from surgery on a torn labrum. There are many players that couldn't come back from shoulder surgery at anywhere near their past production. It ends careers. The list of players that went on to stardom after it is very short if there is one at all. I root for the cat but his career is dichotomous at this point and we're new in the 'post' era now. Keep expectations low, is what I'm getting at here.

Pablo 05-07-2024 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Vladimir_Kyrilytch (Post 17512475)
It merits mention that Vinnie is attempting to come back from surgery on a torn labrum. There are many players that couldn't come back from shoulder surgery at anywhere near their past production. It ends careers. The list of players that went on to stardom after it is very short if there is one at all. I root for the cat but his career is dichotomous at this point and we're new in the 'post' era now. Keep expectations low, is what I'm getting at here.

Fair point

TLO 05-07-2024 08:20 PM

Saw someone on Twitter talking about trading Salvy before the deadline.

Thoughts?

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 05-07-2024 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17512668)
Saw someone on Twitter talking about trading Salvy before the deadline.

Thoughts?

May be one of the dumbest tweets of all time. Maybe we should trade Mahomes while we’re at it too??

WhawhaWhat 05-07-2024 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17512668)
Saw someone on Twitter talking about trading Salvy before the deadline.

Thoughts?

You should delete Twitter.

cabletech94 05-07-2024 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17512668)
Saw someone on Twitter talking about trading Salvy before the deadline.

Thoughts?

murder.
death.
kill.

dlphg9 05-07-2024 11:29 PM

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Originally Posted by TLO (Post 17512668)
Saw someone on Twitter talking about trading Salvy before the deadline.

Thoughts?

Only if we are completely out of it, he is ok with it, and we get something very valuable in return.

By out of it I mean by the trade deadline we are at 110 games. If we are 5-10 games under .500, then by all means get as close to a haul as you can.


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