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OrtonsPiercedTaint 12-28-2020 08:04 AM

If still relevant: Only ten players have won the Super Bowl and MVP in the same season, Bart Starr in 1966, Terry Bradshaw in 1978, Mark Moseley in 1982, Lawrence Taylor in 1986, Joe Montana in 1989, Emmitt Smith in 1993, Steve Young in 1994, Brett Favre in 1996 Terrell Davis in 1998 and Kurt Warner in 1999.

alanm 12-28-2020 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by milkshock (Post 15428209)
The NFL MVP should be the best player in the league, which Mahomes clearly is - not about who is more valuable to their team.

Did you read what you just wrote?? :shake:

DTVietnam 12-28-2020 08:28 AM

forget these two guys...and give it to this man























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milkshock 12-28-2020 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by alanm (Post 15428238)
Did you read what you just wrote?? :shake:


Yes

The argument seems to be that Rodgers is more valuable to his team than Mahomes is to ours because even without Mahomes we would be a Strong playoff team.

That doesn’t mean that Mahomes isn’t a better player than Rodgers though.

burt 12-28-2020 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 15428216)
I think Rogers has it. People love TDS.

And I’m fine with that because I think it means Mahomes will have a chip on his shoulder

I love Mahomes and I am completely ecstatic that we have a "generational" talent at QB. BUT.......

Last nights "announcers" completely missed a Rodgers no look pass, and possibly another. Hard to say about the second one because of camera angle. Given the entire season...SO FAR... Rodgers has my vote for MVP (a vote that means nothing!)

TEX 12-28-2020 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Hoover (Post 15428216)
I think Rogers has it. People love TDS.

And I’m fine with that because I think it means Mahomes will have a chip on his shoulder

My thoughts exactly.

burt 12-28-2020 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by milkshock (Post 15428291)
Yes

The argument seems to be that Rodgers is more valuable to his team than Mahomes is to ours because even without Mahomes we would be a Strong playoff team.

That doesn’t mean that Mahomes isn’t a better player than Rodgers though.

MVP- Most Valuable Player does not equal LBP-League Best Player.

Which player is most valuable??? A great QB on a great team? Or a great QB, carrying a mediocre team to the playoffs, on his back, by his incredible play alone?

MVP is a great accolade but it's a foot note. I just want Mahomes to get SB MVP! Super Bowl wins are forever!!!!

DRM08 12-28-2020 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by burt (Post 15428298)
MVP- Most Valuable Player does not equal LBP-League Best Player.

Which player is most valuable??? A great QB on a great team? Or a great QB, carrying a mediocre team to the playoffs, on his back, by his incredible play alone?

But it’s not his incredible play alone. Their defense did a great job last night against the Titans. They have blown out a bunch of teams this year because of the defense. He also has a great OL, a better receiver than anyone on the KC roster, better RB than anyone on KC roster. The OL/RB have taken a lot of stress off Rodgers this year. Lot of easy throws in the play action game.

Best22 12-28-2020 09:12 AM

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Originally Posted by burt (Post 15428298)
MVP- Most Valuable Player does not equal LBP-League Best Player.

Which player is most valuable??? A great QB on a great team? Or a great QB, carrying a mediocre team to the playoffs, on his back, by his incredible play alone?

Rodgers will get it because he has better stats. The surrounding talent is almost irrelevant

Quarterbacks carry “bad teams” to the playoffs every year. They don’t win MVP. The MVP goes to whatever QB is having the best overall season

MahomesMagic 12-28-2020 09:14 AM

Mahomes performance against New Orleans was as impressive QB play as you will see.

But the MVP award is heavily stat based and KC has taken its foot off the gas too often in the last few weeks.

burt 12-28-2020 09:15 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15428301)
But it’s not his incredible play alone. Their defense did a great job last night against the Titans. They have blown out a bunch of teams this year because of the defense. He also has a great OL, a better receiver than anyone on the KC roster, better RB than anyone on KC roster. The OL/RB have taken a lot of stress off Rodgers this year. Lot of easy throws in the play action game.

Valid points. But better RB? Really? Not disputing, just questioning from lack of input/knowledge.

King_Chief_Fan 12-28-2020 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MahomesMagic (Post 15428306)
Mahomes performance against New Orleans was as impressive QB play as you will see.

But the MVP award is heavily stat based and KC has taken its foot off the gas too often in the last few weeks.

the last 7 weeks wins were by 1 possession...hard to believe this team is still 14-1.
Post Season will be an adventure.

burt 12-28-2020 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Best22 (Post 15428302)
The MVP goes to whatever QB is having the best overall season

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Originally Posted by burt (Post 15428298)
A great QB on a great team? Or a great QB, carrying a mediocre team to the playoffs, on his back, by his incredible play alone?

Best overall season can be subjective....

tyecopeland 12-28-2020 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by DRM08 (Post 15428301)
But it’s not his incredible play alone. Their defense did a great job last night against the Titans. They have blown out a bunch of teams this year because of the defense. He also has a great OL, a better receiver than anyone on the KC roster, better RB than anyone on KC roster. The OL/RB have taken a lot of stress off Rodgers this year. Lot of easy throws in the play action game.

I would put hill over Adams. Jones is better than we have right now. The o line is better in gb. Their defense is better but that's mostly just linebackers.

fan4ever 12-28-2020 09:23 AM

Winning the MVP vs. the Lombardi won't mean crap to Rogers.


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