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Titty Meat 03-15-2018 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mecca (Post 13471445)
If you don't score in a whole half and keep going 3 and out what do you think happens?

Your defense shuts down the weak offense and you win a close game.

Sassy Squatch 03-15-2018 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13471443)
You must be joking.

The Chiefs gave up 18 points to the high powered Steelers and lost.

They gave up 22 points to the Titans, at home, and lost.

The defense wasn't the issue.

It's not either/or. Both the offense and the defense were absolutely pathetic in that 2nd half.

ToxSocks 03-15-2018 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13471451)
It's not either/or. Both the offense and the defense were absolutely pathetic in that 2nd half.

This.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-15-2018 03:10 PM

“Another key takeaway from today’s pressers was #Chiefs GM Brett Veach talking about establishing an attitude on defense. Saying good players are obviously important, but has to be collective attitude. Said LB Anthony Hitchens is a “stud.” Will bring right attitude, leadership.” - BJ Kissel

Hitchens and Ragland are ass kickers.

O.city 03-15-2018 03:11 PM

Yeah I was just getting ready to say that. They’re all about changing the attitude of the d from passive to ass kickers

Young fast and crazy

Rausch 03-15-2018 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13471451)
It's not either/or. Both the offense and the defense were absolutely pathetic in that 2nd half.

The players didn't believe.

The Titans players did.

That sad assed wanna-be team believed.

OURS DIDN'T.

There's why you need a culture change...

Titty Meat 03-15-2018 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13471451)
It's not either/or. Both the offense and the defense were absolutely pathetic in that 2nd half.

At least Watkins would have made that 4th down catch and not alligator armed it like that scrub Wilson. Hopefully Orson Charles isn't on the roster next year either.

Sassy Squatch 03-15-2018 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 13471464)
At least Watkins would have made that 4th down catch and not alligator armed it like that scrub Wilson. Hopefully Orson Charles isn't on the roster next year either.

LMAO That Orson Charles drop was when you knew the game was over.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-15-2018 03:14 PM

I think Hunt/Ware have a very good chance to lead the league in rushing. Hunt is the hardest tackle in the NFL right now and Ware is tough too. All they are ever going to see is 6-man boxes.

Sassy Squatch 03-15-2018 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13471456)
“Another key takeaway from today’s pressers was #Chiefs GM Brett Veach talking about establishing an attitude on defense. Saying good players are obviously important, but has to be collective attitude. Said LB Anthony Hitchens is a “stud.” Will bring right attitude, leadership.” - BJ Kissel

Hitchens and Ragland are ass kickers.

You know what would REALLY help establishing a culture change on defense? Getting rid of the guy who's ran it to be soft in the first place.

O.city 03-15-2018 03:17 PM

It wasn’t soft when they had talent

The Franchise 03-15-2018 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13471480)
You know what would REALLY help establishing a culture change on defense? Getting rid of the guy who's ran it to be soft in the first place.

It's not ****ing happening......get over it.

Chargem 03-15-2018 03:17 PM

The defense does still feel a bit holey right now, but a cheap ish 2 down run stuffing nose would make quite a big difference. Then you draft safety, corner and bailey replacement on the DL and if you hit on 2 of 3 picks there the defense is looking promising.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-15-2018 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13471480)
You know what would REALLY help establishing a culture change on defense? Getting rid of the guy who's ran it to be soft in the first place.

Look man I get the frustration but by all accounts, they’re going to be aggressive this year.

Amerson has been told he will press at least 90% of the time. That tells you right there that they plan on turning up the heat.

RunKC 03-15-2018 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13471456)
“Another key takeaway from today’s pressers was #Chiefs GM Brett Veach talking about establishing an attitude on defense. Saying good players are obviously important, but has to be collective attitude. Said LB Anthony Hitchens is a “stud.” Will bring right attitude, leadership.” - BJ Kissel

Hitchens and Ragland are ass kickers.

Yup. This is exactly what I want. This is what SB teams need.

Sassy Squatch 03-15-2018 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13471482)
It wasn’t soft when they had talent

Still had the propensity to choke in playoff games, though.

JakeF 03-15-2018 03:27 PM

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Mother****erJones 03-15-2018 03:28 PM

Sutton started playing off coverage because of Peters. That’s changing now

RunKC 03-15-2018 03:30 PM

Notice most of the worst tacklers and no effort players are gone. I wonder why?

Mother****erJones 03-15-2018 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13471517)
Notice most of the worst tacklers and no effort players are gone. I wonder why?

Because they flat out sucked and old. Sorensen gota go next

BleedingRed 03-15-2018 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud (Post 13471443)
You must be joking.

The Chiefs gave up 18 points to the high powered Steelers and lost.

They gave up 22 points to the Titans, at home, and lost.

The defense wasn't the issue.

Lmao its like they don't understand the football is a cumulative sport....


The defense isn't going to stop them every time especially when you go three and out a shit load in a row

The Franchise 03-15-2018 04:03 PM

49ers signed Jerry Attachou.

I was hoping to get him.

threebag 03-15-2018 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13471602)
Attachou.

Bless You

ToxSocks 03-15-2018 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13471602)
49ers signed Jerry Attachou.

I was hoping to get him.

Would've been a good 1 year flier. Reminds me a lot of Dee Ford. Good athlete and looks like he should be a good pass rusher, but can never stay healthy enough to get on the field.

O.city 03-15-2018 04:14 PM

Still need a safety and some dl

Let’s do this

bricks 03-15-2018 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13471474)
I think Hunt/Ware have a very good chance to lead the league in rushing. Hunt is the hardest tackle in the NFL right now and Ware is tough too. All they are ever going to see is 6-man boxes.

Here’s how I see it,

Having Hill & Watkins on this team definately opens up the running game because it will draw safeties deep to prevent themselves from being victimized by the deep ball.

I have confidence in both Hunt and Ware in that they could run all over opposing defenses with a 6 man box.

Where I have my doubts is Andy Reid due to his imbalanced playcalling of favoring the pass more so than the run.

The question is, are the Chiefs going to run the ball when the opposing defense dares them to? Are the running plays going to be called in a timely manner? Only Andy Reid can **** this up. And he probably will because Andy Reid lacks in game management skills and is senseless playcaller at times.

We saw this last year in the Titans playoff game where Kareem Hunt barely got the ball in the second half. I know the Chiefs should’ve ran the ball to kill that clock to not only give their defense rest, but to prevent the Titans from having any momentum of coming back in the game. Not doing so with the league’s leading rusher is not maximizing your talent at the RB position.

Sure-Oz 03-15-2018 04:44 PM

Not shady at all Ravens. They'll now sign Crabtree I assume.

@AdamSchefter: WR Ryan Grant, who reached agreement with Baltimore on a $29 million deal, failed his physical and his Ravens deal is null and void, per sources. Grant will have to find another deal with another team willing to pass him on his physical.

@AdamSchefter: Former Raiders' WR Michael Crabtree is scheduled to visit Friday with the Baltimore Ravens, per source.

Sassy Squatch 03-15-2018 04:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 13471668)
Not shady at all Ravens. They'll now sign Crabtree I assume.

@AdamSchefter: WR Ryan Grant, who reached agreement with Baltimore on a $29 million deal, failed his physical and his Ravens deal is null and void, per sources. Grant will have to find another deal with another team willing to pass him on his physical.

@AdamSchefter: Former Raiders' WR Michael Crabtree is scheduled to visit Friday with the Baltimore Ravens, per source.

Yikes.

Chargem 03-15-2018 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13471602)
49ers signed Jerry Attachou.

I was hoping to get him.

Very interested to see what this deal was, as I would have like the Chiefs to look at him too.

O.city 03-15-2018 05:00 PM

Seattle in talks to trade earl Thomas for a first and a third

**** me

pugsnotdrugs19 03-15-2018 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sure-Oz (Post 13471668)
Not shady at all Ravens. They'll now sign Crabtree I assume.

@AdamSchefter: WR Ryan Grant, who reached agreement with Baltimore on a $29 million deal, failed his physical and his Ravens deal is null and void, per sources. Grant will have to find another deal with another team willing to pass him on his physical.

@AdamSchefter: Former Raiders' WR Michael Crabtree is scheduled to visit Friday with the Baltimore Ravens, per source.

I shit you not I thought to myself that I could see Baltimore pulling this off to get Crabtree. Then like 15 minutes later they reported he was visiting there.

The Franchise 03-15-2018 05:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chargem (Post 13471687)
Very interested to see what this deal was, as I would have like the Chiefs to look at him too.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">The <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/49ers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#49ers</a> signed former <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chargers?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chargers</a> LB Jeremiah Attaochu to a 1-year deal worth up to $5.125M, source said. He gets $2.5M fully guaranteed. Played in 4 games last year, but had 6 sacks in 2015.</p>&mdash; Ian Rapoport (@RapSheet) <a href="https://twitter.com/RapSheet/status/974401864455376897?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2018</a></blockquote>
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The Franchise 03-15-2018 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13471689)
Seattle in talks to trade earl Thomas for a first and a third

**** me

Who the **** is paying that for Earl Thomas?

Probably the ****ing Cowboys. They're THAT stupid.

Sassy Squatch 03-15-2018 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13471689)
Seattle in talks to trade earl Thomas for a first and a third

**** me

Where'd you see that?

Chief Northman 03-15-2018 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13471689)
Seattle in talks to trade earl Thomas for a first and a third

**** me

That is nuts. Love the player, hate the mileage.

staylor26 03-15-2018 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13471699)
Where'd you see that?

La Canfora tweeted it.

O.city 03-15-2018 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 13471699)
Where'd you see that?

La canfora

O.city 03-15-2018 05:08 PM

Plus he wants to be the highest paid safety in the league

**** that

Sassy Squatch 03-15-2018 05:10 PM

Only thing I see is that the Cowboys have interest, but in the chain they're all talking about a first and third. Did he delete something?

pugsnotdrugs19 03-15-2018 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city (Post 13471707)
Plus he wants to be the highest paid safety in the league

**** that

If a team gives Seattle a 1st and 3rd and then pays him Berry money...

Lol

Mother****erJones 03-15-2018 05:12 PM

ROFL

pugsnotdrugs19 03-15-2018 05:16 PM

HOLY BUTT****.

Lotulelei got $50M over 5 years from Buffalo. FIFTY MILLION.

Sassy Squatch 03-15-2018 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13471718)
HOLY BUTT****.

Lotulelei got $50M over 5 years from Buffalo. FIFTY MILLION.

Good lord...

Mother****erJones 03-15-2018 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13471718)
HOLY BUTT****.

Lotulelei got $50M over 5 years from Buffalo. FIFTY MILLION.

ROFL

TambaBerry 03-15-2018 05:19 PM

And now you see why we're not in the DT market.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-15-2018 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 13471723)
And now you see why we're not in the DT market.

Richardson is undoubtedly getting more, too

Mother****erJones 03-15-2018 05:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 13471723)
And now you see why we're not in the DT market.

That’s fine. Veach will make a trade and go get Vea.

RealSNR 03-15-2018 05:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13471718)
HOLY BUTT****.

Lotulelei got $50M over 5 years from Buffalo. FIFTY MILLION.

Uhhh... yeah...

I'll take a rookie NT over that shit any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

The Franchise 03-15-2018 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13471725)
Richardson is undoubtedly getting more, too

He said he wants $15 million a year.

Mother****erJones 03-15-2018 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealSNR (Post 13471730)
Uhhh... yeah...

I'll take a rookie NT over that shit any day of the week and twice on Sundays.

Yup. Trade up for Vea. I’m good with that

Chief Northman 03-15-2018 05:25 PM

Go with one of Poe/Logan again on the cheap, keep Bailey, draft DL early.

Insane what these linemen are getting.

The Franchise 03-15-2018 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 13471738)
Go with one of Poe/Logan again on the cheap, keep Bailey, draft DL early.

Insane what these linemen are getting.

Poe already signed with the Panthers.

Sassy Squatch 03-15-2018 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 13471738)
Go with one of Poe/Logan again on the cheap, keep Bailey, draft DL early.

Insane what these linemen are getting.

Poe got 3/27

Chief Northman 03-15-2018 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence (Post 13471739)
Poe already signed with the Panthers.

Missed that...

pugsnotdrugs19 03-15-2018 05:32 PM

Isn’t Vea a top 15 pick? We can’t jump that high

pugsnotdrugs19 03-15-2018 05:37 PM

Middlekauff thinks Oakland made a big mistake today: https://twitter.com/johnmiddlekauff/...524786176?s=21

pugsnotdrugs19 03-15-2018 05:42 PM

So did anyone else know that Oakland currently has 5 tight ends and 2 fullbacks?

Gruden might actually try to go back in time with this offense. Lol

The Franchise 03-15-2018 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13471756)
So did anyone else know that Oakland currently has 5 tight ends and 2 fullbacks?

Gruden might actually try to go back in time with this offense. Lol

They just signed a FB to a 2 year, $4.5 million dollar deal. That FB....is a converted LB.

bricks 03-15-2018 05:50 PM

To get Vita Vea, I think the Chiefs would have to trade their 2018 2nd rd pick, Skins 2018 3rd rd pick, the Rams 2nd pick in 2019 plus their own 2019 3rd round pick.

Yeah I think it would take that much to get into the mid 1st round this year and that if he last to the 15th overall pick.

CaliforniaChief 03-15-2018 05:55 PM

I'd rather pay less to maybe move up a few spots to draft Settle.

TambaBerry 03-15-2018 06:05 PM

Am I the only one who doesn't want Vita vae?

RunKC 03-15-2018 06:05 PM

Veach isn’t going to move up for Vita Vea. That would be a waste.

One of our biggest problems last year was the pass rush. Look at how everything changed when Chris Jones left the game in the playoffs?

If we are going to score a bunch of points next year, we need to load up on pass rushers.

Look for another version of Chris Jones, especially since it’s a deep DB draft.

Strongside 03-15-2018 06:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 13471782)
Am I the only one who doesn't want Vita vae?

No.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-15-2018 06:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaliforniaChief (Post 13471772)
I'd rather pay less to maybe move up a few spots to draft Settle.

From Settle's draft profile on NFL.com:

"I need to watch him more but Bud (Foster) moved him around and I saw a guy who can play both nose spots, 3 (technique), 4i, and maybe 5. Reminds me of when (Dontari) Poe came out. He ain't Poe, but he can play all over the line like Poe could." -- AFC defensive line coach

pugsnotdrugs19 03-15-2018 06:12 PM

Veach is the guy who identified Fletcher Cox as a must have for Philly in the draft, so we can assume he has a decent eye for DL talent.

KChiefs1 03-15-2018 06:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19 (Post 13471800)
Veach is the guy who identified Fletcher Cox as a must have for Philly in the draft, so we can assume he has a decent eye for DL talent.



I have a feeling Veach has a better eye than Dorsey.

Easy 6 03-15-2018 06:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chief Northman (Post 13471738)
Go with one of Poe/Logan again on the cheap, keep Bailey, draft DL early.

Insane what these linemen are getting.

Yeah, this... keep Logan and draft a guy, maybe Bennie wont look as bad with our MLBs bringing the wood

Priest31kc 03-15-2018 06:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13471811)
Yeah, this... keep Logan and draft a guy, maybe Bennie wont look as bad with our MLBs bringing the wood

Yep. Bring Logan back for sure now. Draft a few DL in the draft. Keep Bailey now.

Bailey-Logan-Jones with Nacho, Jenkins and a few draft picks? Not terrible.

And hopefully we see Jones take his game to another level and be a more consistent force game in and game out.

bricks 03-15-2018 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RunKC (Post 13471784)
Veach isn’t going to move up for Vita Vea. That would be a waste.

One of our biggest problems last year was the pass rush. Look at how everything changed when Chris Jones left the game in the playoffs?

If we are going to score a bunch of points next year, we need to load up on pass rushers.

Look for another version of Chris Jones, especially since it’s a deep DB draft.

A lot of that is on Sutton for heavily relying on a 3 man rush.

To run a 3-4 defense effectively regardless of whether your plan is to stop the run or pass, you need to free up your LBers to make plays.

And what better way to do that than getting a dominant NT? Add a fat body is like an indirect way of improving your passrush.

TambaBerry 03-15-2018 06:35 PM

I don't understand why you want your DL to just take up blockers and take up running lanes. I'd want them to blow up the line

bricks 03-15-2018 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 13471834)
I don't understand why you want your DL to just take up blockers and take up running lanes. I'd want them to blow up the line

Both can happen at the same time. In fact, Vita Vea does both.

Don Corlemahomes 03-15-2018 06:51 PM

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he is pretty damn good. Not package a shit ton of picks good, but he chews up blockers and makes plays at the LOS.

Chiefshrink 03-15-2018 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KChiefs1 (Post 13471803)
I have a feeling Veach has a better eye than Dorsey.

So is it safe to say that Dorsey was pounding the table for Ford while everyone else was sitting on their hands looking downward.:D

bricks 03-15-2018 06:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cunning Linguist (Post 13471856)
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he is amazing

He is.

I think he is worth it to trade up.

He would change the face of this defense completely.

bricks 03-15-2018 06:55 PM

I was advocating the other day for this team to go after Suh and Vita. That would be insane!

Buckweath 03-15-2018 06:55 PM

Veach probably thought he could get a good DL from FA but at this point, you're left wondering if we shouldn't have traded for Danny Shelton, similarly to the trades for Ragland and Erving.

pugsnotdrugs19 03-15-2018 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buckweath (Post 13471860)
Veach probably thought he could get a good DL from FA but at this point, you're left wondering if we shouldn't have traded for Danny Shelton, similarly to the trades for Ragland and Erving.

He could still very well make a deal like that again come July.

Chiefshrink 03-15-2018 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy 6 (Post 13471811)
Yeah, this... keep Logan and draft a guy, maybe Bennie wont look as bad with our MLBs bringing the wood

Like I have said before there will be very little wood given regardless of the upgrade at LB IF we don't have at least a competitive DL that includes a decent NT. When the offensive line can get into our 2nd level consistently which is what happened a lot last year now the LB's have to shed those blocks more often thus less tackling on top of missed tackles as well.

Beef Supreme 03-15-2018 07:07 PM

I don't think we have enough to go up and get Vea. But I'd be happy if Veach has that kind of wizardry.

O.city 03-15-2018 07:15 PM

Vea is a little meh to me. He's good but I dunno that he's really THAT good.

I'd rather have one of the Bama DL.


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