Not quite. It depends on the incentives. If they’re Likely to Be Earned - defined as milestones that were reached the prior season - they count against this year’s cap (and get refunded if not reached). Otherwise, they’re against next year’s provided they’re reached.

Veach is still a genius though for the record.

I'm not a fan of Brown but we clearly upgraded the position and likely paid less than we were MVS. That's outstanding.

Brown has reliable hands and he's still a deep threat while making less. I mean, that's better in every way.

Eat it haters. Once more, into the Veach...

**** yeah let's go!!!

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Pacua Nacua was last years best in the gauntlet....

If he plays 17 games hes getting 1000 yards. I've never been more confident in something in my entire life.

He fills the MVS, Toney, hardman , Skyy rolls , you don’t need to rotate him out of them in so you may as well combine all their salaries to see the true value of this signing.

Why do people care about numbers so much. Hollywood's biggest impact will be the space he creates for Rice and Kelce. But I ain't talking about no MVS decoy. He'll still produce too, but I bet people end up being "disappointed" in Brown while not realizing he'll be a big part of returning us to the best offense in the league.

Yup, I would definitely take our WRs this year over the 2022 corps that was the best offense in the league.

Fantasy football ruined people's perspective...and Madden

Now go get Mike Williams and then draft a WR in R2. Use Sneed and #32 to trade up in the 1st Rd. for a LT.

WR group for 2024:
1. Rice
2. Hollywood
3. Williams
4. R2 Rookie
5. Watson
6. Toney (He has more raw talent than anyone on the roster and can be the punt returner)

An offense like that with Kelce, Smith, and Gray at TE plus Pacheco at RB would wreck opposing defenses.

and it is for this reason that I play neither anymore. I just maestrobate to Chiefs football hype videos and pron.

1-year, $7 million???

We are winning 3 Super Bowls in a row.

I don’t know that people will be disappointed. I do think we have to temper expectations somewhat. Realistically you’ll see lower target shares and catch rate %. Disappearing in stretches. That goes with the territory of a weapon like this and as you said we have to recognize that this boom/bust role can help us even during the lulls. But I think his versatility to do some short stuff will immediately set him apart from Mvs and fans will grow to like him right away

I keep thinking of cooks as an example. Dude had a solidly productive year last year but a gambler or fantasy guy might complain about the times he finished games with 3 catches for 20 yards.

Can we still keep Sneed?

Great signing! The league is in deep shit again this year
May as well engrave the Lombardi now.

Hollywood's presence opens up the full field.

There's a dipshit here on the board that loves to talk about 'decoy' as a negative, but the reality is that Brown forces a defense to respect and fear the full length of the field, which makes bigger holes for Kelce and Rice.

If you focus on stopping Kelce and Rice, Brown will eat you alive. If you sit back in two deep, Kelce and Rice will eat you alive. Few teams will have the secondary talent to stop all three.

But there will be slow games for each of the three, just depending on what the defense chose to focus on week to week.

I hope they **** everyone up on the way to an undefeated three peat

:rockon:

Following a hail storm what an entrance

There’s definitely value in the decoy thing. Mvs did fine at least in year 1. But I don’t know he brought much value outside of that. We tried getting him going on catch and run, jet sweeps, etc… so I love the idea of having a clear out guy who can also contrivute outside of the 1-2 deep targets Mvs would get per game. I think you’ll see Hollywood get a much higher target share than Mvs. The catch % may not always been pretty since we’re so used to efficiency at this point. But it’s well worth what it opens up for the offense.

Oh, I agree. Hollywood is a significant upgrade. Overall, I expect it to show up on the stat sheet, but week to week it may vary.

Hollywood is going to get his touches. He didn't sign a 1 year prove it deal to be a decoy. He's capable of being a number 1 receiver, and I suspect Reid will regard him as such.

This is AWESOME! Love the signing! :thumb:

It's certainly possible, but I'd be surprised if he ends the season first in receptions on the team.

I expect he'll be third behind Rice and Kelce.

He won't out-touch kelce for sure. I think perhaps Brown and Rice will get close to the same number of receptions. Either way, this offense is going to take off into another stratosphere and I can't wait.

Loving this trend of B+ journeymen WRs using us as a one night stand to get paid. Everyone benefits!

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I like it. Now in the draft let's go get a couple more, a TE, and some OL.

He gonna feast.

Never in my wildest dreams did I believe we would get him on a one yeat deal this cheap.

Should still have $8MM in cap room with Sneed tagged.

I wouldn’t mind signing Sneed to a 3ish year deal if it’s team
friends. Well I wouldn’t mind it in the sense it would give me a massive boner.

I don’t totally agree. I don’t think he’s a target monster although we might force a lot of touches to him in the quick catch and run game. If he’s trying to prove himself, there’s a lot of value to building a brandin cooks like career. Which might be the kind of production we see and frankly… I’m very very cool with that.

Still need like 10m for draft class and few vets /depth LT. Etc.. so going to have to restructure /extend someone , Sneed would do nicely

I don't think they can play sneed on the tag, with that big #

I love Sneed, but I still think moving him for a #2 or better is the best move long term.

Nope. Not mad at all. There obviously was no market for the guy and Veach held his ground and didn't bid against himself.

$7M is exactly what we should be paying for the production we're going to get from the 3rd option, and we're not hitched to the guy beyond this year.

Are there guys I would have preferred? Sure.

But at this price and term, all props to Veach.

who cares about long term. We have a chance to do something historic.

Let's go get the 3-peat!

I'd agree with this as well, but I wouldn't disagree if the team actually did decide to overweight this next season a little bit more in terms of its being a priority given the chances at a 3-peat. Not that I think it's a question of mortgaging the future or not to win next season, but in a situation like this where it's really a knife's edge decision, I would have no problem if they erred on the side of having a better 2024 roster.

Because I want ALL of them, is why.

:D

This.

Hollywood is a placeholder for the rook.

I'm hopeful that the later season stuff of simplifying things a bit help the staff figure out that maybe the spot adjustments and such are difficult for young guys and they need their hand held a bit.

Dang good signing with value.
Boner engaged!

That's a lot less money than I expected.

Wow, this is literally amazing. I thought a WR signing would cement the trade of Sneed, but now this opens the door to pay him I think AND creates draft flexibility.

You can go into 2024 with Brown/Rice/a round 1-3 receiver/Watson/Moore/whoever and then make a decision in 2025 about a veteran depending on how the rookie develops, how Brown does, if Rice develops any further, if Kelce retires etc.

Yep, That's why I like McConkey. Was right there in the Gauntlet, but ran a 4.39 40 and is a precise route runner. His combine stats comp to Garrett Wilson.

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This is the way.

I think there is a non-zero chance we offer him a deal after the season if he's a good fit, but he's going after a bag.

If he can manage to stick a few years, I'm fine with that too. Plenty of room for a rookie also.

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Hollywood Brown just ended his Twitch stream by playing Blank Space. <a href="https://t.co/VkTnSnbwWZ">pic.twitter.com/VkTnSnbwWZ</a></p>&mdash; Joshua Brisco (@jbbrisco) <a href="https://twitter.com/jbbrisco/status/1768485687425106133?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Maybe I’m too much of an optimist. But I think our rebuild will feel as “difficult” and quick as the one that got us a Super Bowl two years ago. Teams like the chargers and bills are in cap hell because they spent years and years and years racking up debt because they were desperate to put the team over the top.

No matter what when kelce and jones decline or go away we’ll need a bit of a reset. That is when good teams take 1-2 years to stockpile picks and reload for the next one. That was really the biggest key to new englands success. Frequent resets. Even signing Snead we are being aggressive yet smart.

I really like this signing. This is why we love Veach.

How do people still not know how to spell his name after 4 years?

I know Lezn... Right!

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Hollywooooo!!

I'm still surprised we didn't hit the bank of Mahomes for the max amount. I realize you have to look to the future dollars pushed down the road, but if Sneed does stay on the tag, it makes things a bit tight this year. There are other moves that can be made, but I am still surprised.

Amazing deal. 3peat incoming!

I still get it wrong about 20% of the time.

I type faster than my brain functions, I suppose.

We see it spelled wrong so much that it’s almost hard to remember which is correct

Awesome deal.

If he stays healthy, I’d imagine he’ll give us the kind of production I was hoping Richie James would when things were at their most dire last season.

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Just a great deal all around, for all parties.

Veach = GOAT.

We are the kings of the NFL frens.

Damn it feels good to be a gangsta.

So this could mean we get a hot WR, keep sneed and still have the draft?

Holy Shit., Go Bert!!!!!

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I love guys that will use heart emojis.

You just love guys, period.

❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️

How do you feel about guys that use this emoji? :dom:

I often wondered what CLE saw in Baker to make him the #1 overall pick. Now I see his last year at Oklahoma he was throwing to Ceedee and... HOLLYWOOD!!

Haha, I love that this has become a meme to clown on Tiki Barber.

I worry about a taunting call.

Travis has made us all a little softer.

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Skip Bayless looks depressed ROFL


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<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Marquise Brown has reached 20+ mph on 33 routes since 2020, 2nd-most in the NFL behind former Chief Tyreek Hill.<br><br>Brown will look to add speed to a Kansas City wide receiver room that reached 20+ mph on a route just 5 times last season, 6th-fewest in the NFL.<a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/ChiefsKingdom?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#ChiefsKingdom</a> <a href="https://t.co/oEdsSMwkBi">https://t.co/oEdsSMwkBi</a> <a href="https://t.co/xlpDxtRxQs">pic.twitter.com/xlpDxtRxQs</a></p>&mdash; Next Gen Stats (@NextGenStats) <a href="https://twitter.com/NextGenStats/status/1768669094361047505?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">March 15, 2024</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

LMAO Andy and Mahomes are going to cook everyone again.

It's the 2019 offense with a worse Tyreek but a better Sammy.

Good point. I made my post based upon something I read saying KC had $15M cap space before signing Brown (including Sneed tag) and now has about $8M, so I presumed the incentives were not likely to be reached. That was just speculation, though. I should have been more clear.

Nonetheless, getting Brown for $7M base is still impressive.

It's beyond impressive, it's disgusting.

Andrew Wylie makes $8 million a year, for comparison.

This is actually an interesting take. Worse Kelce too but there's still potential to add more weapons.

skip losing it LMAO

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if kelce is still running 20 mph and dusting elite safeties he's not demonstrably worse than he was

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Probably still add a Wr in the draft. But a message was sent to Veach, we need to have Wr that get seperation. Patrick and Andy had a lo more fun when they score 40+ a game.

Proof that he just needs load management.

It's kind of hard to believe that he's related to Antonio Brown. He seems nice!