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Imon Yourside 04-04-2022 08:12 PM

Guy just falls down and foul on us.

A Salt Weapon 04-04-2022 08:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 16232417)
Who will start the rigged threads?

Watching the difference in calls on each end I don’t know how anyone could say it’s not.

TribalElder 04-04-2022 08:13 PM

KU is always strong in the second half, can’t imagine they won’t find a way to pull it out

ChiefsFanatic 04-04-2022 08:13 PM

Playing afraid to lose instead of like they want to win.

This sucks.

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MarkDavis'Haircut 04-04-2022 08:14 PM

Why do good players suck at free throws?

BigRedChief 04-04-2022 08:14 PM

WTF Braun?

Bearcat 04-04-2022 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Baby Lee (Post 16232419)
Outclassed in every phase thus far.

Be nice if they showed up.

The weird thing IMO, is they did... I mean, not terribly long, but UNC was shooting 30%, Kansas was hustling on defense and they were making some shots.

It was like a tiny breeze of adversity blew through the arena and they all toppled over like they've never trailed before. :doh!:

chiefswillriseup 04-04-2022 08:14 PM

Worst guard play we've seen in awhile..

KC_Connection 04-04-2022 08:14 PM

Braun choking about as bad as you can choke. In the early games, though, we had Remy to save us. He's looked nervous himself today though.

PHOG 04-04-2022 08:14 PM

That ref on Carolinas end has just completely swallowed his whistle

bdj23 04-04-2022 08:14 PM

Good thing I'm getting used to seeing my favorite teams lose in championship games lol

Reerun_KC 04-04-2022 08:14 PM

We haven’t scored a basket in what? 10 minutes?

BWillie 04-04-2022 08:15 PM

Braun will not get drafted. He's reverting back to his horrible 2pt efficiency of last year. Its been on the decline since the middle of the season.

He need a pull up game. He should be able to feel when its not there on the drive and pull up. Not a floater, not a wild shot. A short pull up jump shot, not even a mid range would do him wonders.

Bearcat 04-04-2022 08:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kman34 (Post 16232407)
Not that I’m a KU fan but 14-16 pts can be made up in a basketball game… it’s not over

Yeah, even just an 8-0 run isn't anything crazy just to get it to single digits and get some momentums.

Titty Meat 04-04-2022 08:15 PM

Get Braun out of there

HC_Chief 04-04-2022 08:15 PM

Wilson can't hit a ****ing layup to save his sorry worthless life and Braun just sucks at everything. Those are the guys trying to lead the team. Self, PARK THOSE LOSERS ON THE BENCH

ROYC75 04-04-2022 08:15 PM

We better play a second half like we did against Miami!

Reerun_KC 04-04-2022 08:16 PM

A basket!!!! Wow

MarkDavis'Haircut 04-04-2022 08:16 PM

15 points isn't an insurmountable lead.

Buehler445 04-04-2022 08:16 PM

This is the same KU team that we were saying wouldn’t make it out of the first weekend. Oh well. It was fun while it lasted.

Bearcat 04-04-2022 08:16 PM

JFC. LMAO

SupDock 04-04-2022 08:17 PM

There wasn’t even a single KU jersey in the restricted area. Pathetic.

comochiefsfan 04-04-2022 08:17 PM

Well that pretty much summed up the whole half right there.

Reerun_KC 04-04-2022 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 16232446)
This is the same KU team that we were saying wouldn’t make it out of the first weekend. Oh well. It was fun while it lasted.

No over yet!

Remember we were supposed to lose to SDSU in the rd of 32 also.

mr. tegu 04-04-2022 08:17 PM

**** OFFICIAL North Carolina vs Kansas National Championship Game Thread ****
 
I was shocked when they said the other day since KU won in 2008 each of the other three teams Final Four teams have two titles each. This would be a pretty bad loss.

DrunkBassGuitar 04-04-2022 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 16232446)
This is the same KU team that we were saying wouldn’t make it out of the first weekend. Oh well. It was fun while it lasted.

Yeah basically but it sucks to get absolutely embarrassed by an 8 seed and just drop 22 points

Gravedigger 04-04-2022 08:18 PM

Yeah KU ****ed themselves almost out of the game with that performance. It'll either be the greatest comeback in KU history or the greatest collapse.

seamonster 04-04-2022 08:18 PM

Easy to win the championship when the other team misses 50 layups.

BigRedChief 04-04-2022 08:18 PM

WTF 55, you don’t block out and give up the ball and then just allow him to
Put it back up?

Can any single player play to their talent level tonight?

ROYC75 04-04-2022 08:18 PM

Up 7 and then get outscored by 22 pts!
:cuss:

DrunkBassGuitar 04-04-2022 08:18 PM

Maybe ku will show up in the 2nd half

SupDock 04-04-2022 08:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr. tegu (Post 16232452)
I was shocked when they said the other day since KU won in 2008 each of the other three teams have two titles each. This would be a pretty bad loss.

So KU has had one title and the others have had two since 2008?

Titty Meat 04-04-2022 08:18 PM

Self is gonna be getting into some ass at half jeez

cmh6476 04-04-2022 08:19 PM

I ****ing told you; delete this thread

comochiefsfan 04-04-2022 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16232437)
Braun will not get drafted. He's reverting back to his horrible 2pt efficiency of last year. Its been on the decline since the middle of the season.

He need a pull up game. He should be able to feel when its not there on the drive and pull up. Not a floater, not a wild shot. A short pull up jump shot, not even a mid range would do him wonders.

Honest question.

Why would Braun get drafted?

What does he do at an elite level? Not trolling I just seriously don't see any skills when watching him that stand out that an NBA team would want.

What am i missing?

Bearcat 04-04-2022 08:19 PM

After all that, UNC is still only shooting 34% and 3/11 from three... granted, 16 free throws is concerning.

Not sure that's the worst 10+ minutes of the tournament (Providence), but JFC.

Gary Cooper 04-04-2022 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16232437)
Braun will not get drafted. He's reverting back to his horrible 2pt efficiency of last year. Its been on the decline since the middle of the season.

He need a pull up game. He should be able to feel when its not there on the drive and pull up. Not a floater, not a wild shot. A short pull up jump shot, not even a mid range would do him wonders.

Nah. In the NBA, you just need spot up shooters. If he can keep working on his shot, he can make it as a role player.

Imon Yourside 04-04-2022 08:19 PM

Hope Bill goes in at halftime and rips them a new one. Time to wake up and remember how to do simple things like hit wide open layups.

Buehler445 04-04-2022 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Reerun_KC (Post 16232451)
No over yet!

Remember we were supposed to lose to SDSU in the rd of 32 also.

It’s close. There is probably 4 minutes in the second half where we can make a run. They’re getting too many boards and not making mistakes enough to beat themselves.

TambaBerry 04-04-2022 08:19 PM

16-4 on free throws and it's not like we're jump shooting. One sided reffing. Bacot can do whatever the **** he wants and not get called moving screens, pushes, etc

mr. tegu 04-04-2022 08:19 PM

**** OFFICIAL North Carolina vs Kansas National Championship Game Thread ****
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by SupDock (Post 16232462)
So KU has had one title and the others have had two since 2008?


Yeah I corrected it, the other three Final Four teams this year.

Monty 04-04-2022 08:19 PM

So fugly, things have to change.

KC_Connection 04-04-2022 08:19 PM

Every player on KU was choking significantly that half other than McCormack and Agbaji. There was always a chance that might happen considering a few of these guys' track records under pressure (i.e. Braun) but not even being able to score at all against UNC is quite something. 28 FG% is just abysmal.

Can't say it's over quite yet, but it's around a 10% chance at this point and they'll need to go on a serious push to start the 2nd half. Hard to see how that happens right now.

Reerun_KC 04-04-2022 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar (Post 16232454)
Yeah basically but it sucks to get absolutely embarrassed by an 8 seed and just drop 22 points

Missing 12 layups doesn’t help.

Turning it over in 5 straight possessions doesn’t help.

Letting beards shoot uncontested 3s for sure doesn’t help.

HC_Chief 04-04-2022 08:19 PM

Braun and Wilson absolutely ****ed us in that first half

R8RFAN 04-04-2022 08:20 PM

Bacott rebounds is what's killing KU

That dude is an amazing rebounder

Titty Meat 04-04-2022 08:20 PM

Someone on reddit is claiming Self isn't good enough at in game adjustments. Since when?

comochiefsfan 04-04-2022 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16232481)
Someone on reddit is claiming Self isn't good enough at in game adjustments. Since when?

Game threads bring out the hot takes.

We know a thing or two about that over here.

chiefzilla1501 04-04-2022 08:21 PM

Trying to find any kind of positive for KU. The only thing I can think of is that UNCs top guys ate up a lot of minutes. KU stays fresh but that has to mean something and fast.

TambaBerry 04-04-2022 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 16232480)
Bacott rebounds is what's killing KU

That dude is an amazing rebounder

Pretty easy to rebound when you get to straight shove players

Reerun_KC 04-04-2022 08:21 PM

We started at a 71% chance to win and they swung it to a 90% chance to win.

That’s pretty impressive.

Lzen 04-04-2022 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BWillie (Post 16232400)
Stop going inside. Carolina is too long. You get back into this by making wide open layups or letting it fly from 3. Thats it. It's math. Embrace it. No more post up or guarded drive shots. Kick it out on their collapsing drives to the shooter.

They've had several missed bunnies. They just need to settle.

R8RFAN 04-04-2022 08:21 PM

This game ain't over , only a fool would think it is

SupDock 04-04-2022 08:21 PM

Sometimes shots don’t fall, but getting out rebounded like this is ridiculous

TribalElder 04-04-2022 08:21 PM

Epic comeback coming up

Gary Cooper 04-04-2022 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16232481)
Someone on reddit is claiming Self isn't good enough at in game adjustments. Since when?

Is he related to Andy Reid?

R8RFAN 04-04-2022 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 16232484)
Pretty easy to rebound when you get to straight shove players

oh boo ****ing hoo, we got 2 less fouls than KU and they were hitting people in the face.

KC_Connection 04-04-2022 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Titty Meat (Post 16232481)
Someone on reddit is claiming Self isn't good enough at in game adjustments. Since when?

They got like 4 open layups after Self went small when McCormack picked up his 2nd foul. That was a good adjustment in bringing Bacot out to the perimeter.

The problem of course was that Wilson and Braun simply missed all of them.

mr. tegu 04-04-2022 08:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 16232483)
Trying to find any kind of positive for KU. The only thing I can think of is that UNCs top guys ate up a lot of minutes. KU stays fresh but that has to mean something and fast.


There aren’t many but the only thing I can think of is law if averages with rebound issues and easy missed shots starting to go in.

comochiefsfan 04-04-2022 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KC_Connection (Post 16232476)
Every player on KU was choking significantly that half other than McCormack and Agbaji. There was always a chance that might happen considering a few of these guys' track records under pressure (i.e. Braun) but not even being able to score at all against UNC is quite something. 28 FG% is just abysmal.

Can't say it's over quite yet, but it's around a 10% chance at this point and they'll need to go on a serious push to start the 2nd half. Hard to see how that happens right now.

I feel like you guys are being too kind to Agbaji.

He was entirely too passive that half. He needs to take over and hunt his shot if you all are gonna come back and win. If he plays like he did in the first half then the deficit will not change.

DrunkBassGuitar 04-04-2022 08:23 PM

18-2 in second chance points lmao

TambaBerry 04-04-2022 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 16232487)
This game ain't over , only a fool would think it is

It's over lol

R8RFAN 04-04-2022 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar (Post 16232497)
18-2 in second chance points lmao

Bacott

TambaBerry 04-04-2022 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 16232491)
oh boo ****ing hoo, we got 2 less fouls than KU and they were hitting people in the face.

Bacot at minimum should have three fouls boo ****ing hoo yourself

TLO 04-04-2022 08:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 16232498)
It's over lol

Nah

HC_Chief 04-04-2022 08:24 PM

Pretty simple: Braun and Wilson absolutely sucked all of the ass in the first half. they tried to play hero and failed miserably. Bad defense, bad shooting, that'll kill you. You CANNOT have two players be total shit in a half. Self should have sat their asses down, but he left them in.

KC_Connection 04-04-2022 08:24 PM

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">My goodness, KU <a href="https://t.co/cZdrzuM2NH">pic.twitter.com/cZdrzuM2NH</a></p>&mdash; Jesse Newell (@jessenewell) <a href="https://twitter.com/jessenewell/status/1511166220334243850?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">April 5, 2022</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script>

Braun/Wilson chokefest.

MarkDavis'Haircut 04-04-2022 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seamonster (Post 16232457)
Easy to win the championship when the other team misses 50 layups.

It is how UNC beat Gonzaga years ago.

BWillie 04-04-2022 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Carr4MVP (Post 16232445)
15 points isn't an insurmountable lead.

KU was 4 pt favorites.

Down by 15 at half.

Has to be less than a 5 to 7% chance of victory at this point.

0% if we pass up three point shots and miss layups.

DrunkBassGuitar 04-04-2022 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 16232499)
Bacott

Yeah and he's injured

KU shouldn't be down 15 lol

Pablo 04-04-2022 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TambaBerry (Post 16232484)
Pretty easy to rebound when you get to straight shove players

Bacot is playing the wrong sport. Should be a disgusting Raider with the penalties he commits.

Snica 04-04-2022 08:25 PM

Just remember UCLA in Allen Fieldhouse. 15 point deficit at half. 15 point win for the Jayhawks.

KC_Connection 04-04-2022 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 16232496)
I feel like you guys are being too kind to Agbaji.

He was entirely too passive that half. He needs to take over and hunt his shot if you all are gonna come back and win. If he plays like he did in the first half then the deficit will not change.

You don't watch Agbaji enough. He doesn't hunt his shot because he's not capable of creating his own shot. Him attempting to do that would be a mistake.

Honestly, as one of his bigger critics all season, he was fine. This has actually been his 2nd best game in the tournament.

chiefswillriseup 04-04-2022 08:26 PM

we will need to make some 3s to get back in this one

Pablo 04-04-2022 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by R8RFAN (Post 16232499)
Bacott

Isn't his name. And you're a huge UNC fan right?

R8RFAN 04-04-2022 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DrunkBassGuitar (Post 16232506)
Yeah and he's injured

KU shouldn't be down 15 lol

He is playing possum a little bit I think

R8RFAN 04-04-2022 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16232511)
Isn't his name. And you're a huge UNC fan right?

I can't spell

MarkDavis'Haircut 04-04-2022 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pablo (Post 16232507)
Bacot is playing the wrong sport. Should be a disgusting Raider with the penalties he commits.

Mayock isn't the GM any more so we won't be drafting him. STFU

ChiefsFanatic 04-04-2022 08:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Imon Yourside (Post 16232469)
Hope Bill goes in at halftime and rips them a new one. Time to wake up and remember how to do simple things like hit wide open layups.

I hope he tells them:

"Well guys, it was a nice run. Let's thank our seniors for all they have done for the program."

And then let's 5 of the walk-ons know that they will be starting the second half.

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KC_Connection 04-04-2022 08:27 PM

Can't blame the refs for not scoring for like 8 minutes of game time due to a ton of missed layups. The guys are just choking.


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