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I'm a big customizer myself. I need what I need and I need it no matter where I am. Gotta be able to load it down. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk |
Hey Aturnis tried...but the oil lovers bias clearly shows.
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It sucks, but it is what it is. |
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Only exception I can think of off the top of my head is that they didn't get below .2 drag coefficient on the Model 3. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk |
Ford and Tesla are doing great work. Keep innovating, and the market will nudge them toward designing the perfect truck.
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It's the guys coming in here saying "it's got a long way to go until it can replace a truck". It can replace your truck day one of release. No question. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk |
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It’s just a matter of time. Bring it on. |
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Just got off the road to my mom's tonight. 2 hr drive. Plenty of range. Charging if I needed it and didn't touch the wheel anymore than required by law through rain at 37°. I'm here and not nearly as drained as I would be otherwise. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk |
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Tesla will come flat bed it if they have to. Breakdowns should be few and far between though. No belts pulleys or other Bullshit to go. Again. Lose a motor, you've got 1-2 more to get you where you need to be. Literally only the suspension or battery could stop you. They've got cars out there with 630,000+ miles on the battery no problem. New battery and drivetrain to last 1 million miles and now with the stainless steel body to match. Sent from my SM-G975U using Tapatalk |
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I hope like hell one day it does because I love driving the Model S and want a truck that will do the work so I have less maintenance. |
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What more does it do than a normal 3/4 does? |
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Look man, I appreciate you saying notorious and I are being reasonable, and I really am. I'd love a rig that does those things right, but I'm not going to be on the bleeding edge of one. I don't go near as far out as notorious and I don't haul as much as him most days. I'd be a far better fit for the rig than he would. Quote:
Proof. https://i.imgur.com/bet3vWM.jpg https://i.imgur.com/m9hXBUX.jpg I have more in the cab. https://i.imgur.com/m9hXBUX.jpg https://i.imgur.com/BFXAbWf.jpg https://i.imgur.com/rBS2H0z.jpg https://i.imgur.com/IuIDnQ2.jpg https://i.imgur.com/yRqDyxQ.jpg https://i.imgur.com/uXflXJa.jpg I also have 2 blow guns under the back seat and tote with my coat and cover alls to go with my Mucks in front of the drawers. I decided to blow out the box, and this is all the shit that was in the toolbox. Nothing from the cab. https://i.imgur.com/0JEyOei.jpg |
If you want an itemized list I can do that for you.
But the important thing is for me in my line of work, I need this shit. I need this shit stable going down the road and accessible when it isn't. And I need the EV to handle the shit I put it through reliably. But yeah. Your comments about toolboxes being impossible to organize is fairly offensive to a guy that has some cheap tools, put them in a cheap pickup and is trying to make a living with them. |
So while sitting in the hospital today I did some research on what I mean by this truck won’t work like my current 3/4 much less the 1 ton on the farm.
The Tesla would not work for hauling due to the time constraints and mileage we put in hauling to sale. It is around 75 miles round trip from the chute on the farm to the chute at the sale barn. I pass 4 gas stations on my way there and same 4 on the way back, 8 opportunities to fill up. Absolutely no chargers anywhere close to my route, it would be about an 1.5 hours out of the way to get to a charger. We load trailers up to 17,500-20,000 lbs each time, and we make around 5-6 trips the day before the sale. So roughly 350-420 miles in a day, while under the 500 mile range, it would blow through that battery way quicker. I’m expecting 250 fully maxed out for that trucks range. I do not have time to stop hauling to charge a truck up for an hour, whenever I can fill the truck up a few times in a total of 30 mins throughout the day. Now if it turns out the Tesla can still get 300 plus fully maxed towing, they start making a flatbed to go on the back, our contract with the current sale barn runs out, cattle prices rise, they put Super Chargers up instead of the Destination Chargers around the route, then I will seriously sit down and consider it |
What’s with the hospital, Mac?
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I could get a service body box on a 3/4 ton, but I rarely pull much other than my 4 wheeler or occasionally a 600 gal fuel trailer, which it pulls fine. But I put quite a few miles on unloaded, except for the tools of course. And a lot of them are on unrocked trailroads this REALLY don’t need the extra weight, plus this is a pretty cheap setup so it’s what I’m rolling with. An EV would serve me well. But it has to hold all this crap and not screw with me when I’m busy. Those aren’t huge criteria but they’re important. |
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My smaller 3/4 ton rig has to be able to haul just about everything you see in the above pics plus 150 gallon L in front and under that toolbox. My shit is no where near as organizes as above, but it has to be there when I need it even if it takes me a while to find it. Over the years it's become obvious it has to be a straight cab for maneuverability, be able to clear and light up 33-35" rubber, and hang a ton off it's rear bumper every single day of the year without breaking in half. It does not see a lot of miles, but gets treated like a baja truck and absolutely can't break down. It also has to be able to drive an engine driven/mounted hydraulic pump for brief periods every day, which I'm sure could be rigged to run off a mounted auxiliary electric motor of some form on the Tesla. I would absolutely love to replace this truck with an electric for many reasons and wouldn't even care how bad it looks like ass because it is going to get beat to shit anyways. Is the bed even going to be removable on the Tesla? If not, that eliminates it for me and thousands of others right from the start. While we're wishing, I'd also like to be able to strip every single extra bell and whistle off it except for the back up camera on the hitch. They could even leave the floors bare and I'd coat them with bed liner. Unless I'm missing something, it could probably replace my dad's 3/4 as he's basically been forced to retire due to health. His trips are basically the farmer's version of grocery getting anymore and rarely gets over 10k and 100 miles from home anymore. I can't think of a single thing he does that this truck couldn't do, assuming it can pull two of my trailers, but it better be able to make his 200 mile round trips without stopping to charge or he just might light it on fire out of frustration. I would be concerned about how easily they're going to make this thing to get in and out of. A lot of old worn out farmers and construction workers basically fall out of their trucks. They're old, tired, worn out, and won't buy anything that requires work to get in and out of. The steering wheel better be strong enough for them to grab and drag themselves into the cab as well. I assume this truck is not targeting these markets. That's fine, but don't go blowing smoke up this markets ass with "it can do anything a normal truck does" when we know it can't. |
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You show up, drop the trailer you have back under a loaded one and leave. Then a tractor with a ball picks up the empty and backs it to the chute. That trailer is then loaded behind the tractor until the next truck arrives, then it starts over. The trucks don’t stop long enough to charge at the farm, if they had a charger on the way that would put 35 miles on in 10 mins our average length of gas stop that would be nice Also it needs to be able to tow about 4000 lbs more for it to make it past the first requirement I have for it What farms are notorious for shady electric work? How do you know I do what I please? |
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One last time Repeat after me.. It Is Not a Truck And Musk is crazy |
Thats not a truck. Its a nightmare of beta male proportions..
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I just bought a new Toyota mini van. What could be cooler than that? |
I wouldn’t expect anyone that depends on their truck for their livelihood to be an early adopter of any electric truck, but I think there is an enormous market for this among people who use their trucks for recreation. As the technology gets proven and more customized options get introduced, I expect that work trucks will start to get replaced as well.
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At least the rivian truck looks like one. I hate the short bed though dammit.
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In more rural areas, you undoubtedly have a lot more working trucks. But even in a small town I have a feeling that half of the trucks are purchased as a style choice rather than a need. |
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I have a truck that I use for hunting fishing and camping. My work furnished truck I have been all over the most the lower 48 plus portions of Canada. I'd rather fly or travel comfortably but the equiptment and gear have to get there somehow. I drive a truck as little as possible when home. typed with my trusty nose picker using Tapatalk |
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I also wonder how many of the people who put a deposit down realize just how big this truck is. It's not going to fit in some garages and they're going to get to learn just how fun it is taking one of these trucks to the grocery store when they try to pull into the parking spaces. |
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My Elco gets pulled out on occasion. |
I've ordered one. The two motor version will suffice.
I'm going to Mad Max the hell out of it. |
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Back in the day, it was a Mustang, a Challenger, hell - even a Ford Explorer. However, as age creeped in, I began to realize that I was constantly trying to fit ladders and the like in these small assed trunks.
So, since the late 80s - I have been a truck guy. Don't have to haul something everyday - but it was sure a godsend to pickup and drop off a 9 foot Christmas tree..... :thumb: |
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If Musk wants to jerk off with my $100 deposit, I don't really care. |
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Would you buy a truck from this guy?
<blockquote class="twitter-tweet"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Biggest surprise at the Tesla gigafactory ceremony to mark first Model 3 deliveries? <a href="https://twitter.com/elonmusk?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@elonmusk</a> dancing on stage (part of his charm offensive in Shanghai in front of employees and government officials?) <a href="https://t.co/fXnMdgkxuN">pic.twitter.com/fXnMdgkxuN</a></p>— Selina Wang (@selinawangtv) <a href="https://twitter.com/selinawangtv/status/1214465508793171969?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">January 7, 2020</a></blockquote> <script async src="https://platform.twitter.com/widgets.js" charset="utf-8"></script> |
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Kia's have been great cars in recent years. They've come a long way from the crap they built 15-20 years ago. Dodge, yeah that's a bit of a surprise.
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I have no complaints with what I've experienced so far with that exception. |
When is the first Tesla truck actually expected to ship?
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What do we think the implications are of this from last week? Who's going to benefit?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/califor...and-van-sales/ California regulators approved new rules on Thursday that would force automakers to sell more electric work trucks and delivery vans, a first-of-its-kind rule aimed at helping the nation's most populous state clean up its worst-in-the-nation air quality. The rules, which would not take effect until 2024, will require at least 40% of all tractor trailers sold in California to be zero emission by 2035. For smaller trucks, including models like the Ford F-250, 55% of all sales would be zero emission by 2035. The standard is the toughest for delivery trucks and vans, with 75% of sales required to be zero emission by 2035. California already has similar rules in place for passenger vehicle sales. But no one has yet imposed rules like these for work trucks, which unlike passenger vehicles are purchased with the intent of returning a profit. At the last minute, the board also set a goal of making government fleets and last mile delivery trucks entirely electric five years earlier than previously envisioned, by 2035. (More at link.) |
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Cheapest way to buy a tank. |
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Yeah you really think electricity is going to stay cheap ? California already has brown outs in summer time. Or how bout when the wind starts blowing and they half to shut down so it doesn’t burn up? Oh yeah how we going to make all this cheap electricity? They don’t want nukes and coal is to dirty .I don’t get it windmills and solar panels ain’t going to cut it
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I put down my $100 option on one. Maybe I can flip it.
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On top of that, EVs get cleaner over time. On the manufacturing side, that's due to better efficiencies and innovation. (Remember that EVs are really still in their infancy, so manufacturing is improving rapidly.) On the use side, it's also being driven by the fact that the power grid is rapidly getting cleaner due to more wind, solar, etc. being added. So in short, the argument that EVs are worse for the environment has always been BS, but it's becoming even more BS as time goes on. |
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