Can we excise the catfight to another thread please?

Exactly my point.

The fallout from this will take the Colts and their fans several years to get over.

I mean, **** them and everything, but man that ****ing sucks.

Meanwhile, Luck is like:

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He got half his grantees. Like 25 mil. He has to give back his 12 signing bonus. They listed all his injuries on the radio and it was a ton. Including pissing blood. Colts fans should be mad. He should have played out the season or done this last Feb. He screwwd over season ticket holders bad.

Couldn't happen to a nicer fan base.

Nope.

Really sad.

this ****ing GUY

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Luck’s rookie contract was $22 million and he graduated from Stanford with a degree in Architecture. Dude was going to be loaded before he ever signed that 2nd contract LMAO

I don't blame the fans for being pissed, but I don't blame Luck either. Sounds like he was mentally worn down from battling injuries. If people call him a pussy for wanting to quit while he had his health, that's their prerogative.
This is good for the chiefs though.
RGIII outlasted luck
Tom Brady outlasted Manning's replacement.

2019 off-season has delivered

GrBacian, sorta, maybe, not

Hard to imagine staying in Indy when you can literally go anywhere.

It's very Grbackian.

Andrelvis Grbluck.

Ok, that's some funny shit

If only he could have waited until after their next preseason game ROFL

Yes.

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I'll be completely honest, it takes courage for Luck to do what he did.

This is his rap sheet for his career:

Torn cartilage in 2 ribs

Partially torn abdomen

Lacerated kidney that left him peeing blood

Multiple concussions

Torn labrum in his throwing shoulder

Calf/ankle issue (which many think is a precursor to a torn achilles)

Alternatively, Andrew could have had "Day to Day" status through the 2019 season and avoided the press and the fans as everyone was being told cryptically that he could play every day. He then could have blown an achilles his first game back, and missed NEXT year too (2020), all the while taking premiere money from the organization. Imagine if he then was day to day to start 2021 too..

He's leaving four years of money on the table. That takes guts. We would have been shocked if Eric Berry retired in last year's preseason, but it likely would have made his lasting memory with the org so much better. Props to Andrew for making a really difficult decision, having that decision leak, and then walking out of his last home game holding his head up to a shower of boos.

Meh, he ****ed their whole season by retiring two weeks before the start of the season. They could've drafted a QB or traded for one if this happened shortly after the loss in the Playoffs. He made his decision, now he has to live with the consequences. Now fans have to deal with another shit year when they were in the playoffs last year and looking to get back, I get the fans reaction. With all the money under the cap that they have they can probably buy their way out of this mess next year and draft one of the top QBs, they just have to understand that Jacoby Brissett is only good for 6 - 8 wins, you better hope the defense gets you the rest of the way.

I agree. If I was luck I would so retire and just chill for the rest of my life. It's not worth permanent disfigurement.

His timing could have been better, that's for damn sure. Can't fault him for making a personal decision about his own body and future though.

I wonder if Foles would’ve went to Indy had this happened before he was a FA. His old coach. Makes sense.

He should have just called himself "day to day" until Week 13 and blown his achilles.

The dude was in a no-win situation. This was, as hard as it was, actually was the best move for Indy moving forward.

Next stop Canton?

So he can do the coin toss at the Hall of Fame game?

That's a really good point, Mr. staylor26.

Indy had the $ and the o-line and the coach and a decent-enough defense in place.

Had Fuzzy Wuzzy made this decision after the playoff loss, they might well have made a play at Foles ... and he might have been very interested.

FAX

Granted he's a kicker but it's funny that Vinatieri has outlasted them all. He started two years before Manning and has lasted past Luck's retirement. Never would have guessed that.

Luck suffered a lacerated Kidney and then kept playing. Anyone calling him a pussy is a moron

We all would have preferred had Berry done this last preseason, right?

Win never for Trevor..

It's really thickening

meanwhile, eric berry is still getting paid while unemployed. he won't come back till week ten-ish, how much dead money are the chiefs carrying compaired to other teams, i am curious. :D

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If he had announced his retirement before the draft...what would have Indy done? They would have had a choice between Foles, Jones, Rosen and Lock...and pressure to replace him.

I wouldn't want any of those QBs to build around...they tank this year and get a new QB next year.

It kind of worked out for them...all things considering. They have a ton of cash and a young roster.

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He saw Mahomes & knew he would never win a championship.

I imagine Rivers is thinking the same thing...

The league has to be very worried about the future of the product.

Luck was one of its brightest stars. One of the faces of football.

They need as many “Andrew Lucks” as they can get because of the age of so many star quarterbacks...

Manning
Rivers
Brady
Rodgers
Brees
Rothlisberger

Even guys like Matt Ryan are getting up there in age...Russ and Stafford aren’t far behind.

The NFL needs an influx of talent at the QB position, but so many of the arm talents go to other sports nowadays.

Heeeeeyyyyyyy what the **** is up BIIIIIIITCH?

Andrew Luck always struck me as just a little TOO perfect of a pro QB prospect. I was like, "Nobody is THAT perfect of a #1 overall pick."

I didn't want to hate him. I want to like successful people. I wanted to root for him. But he was drafted by the wrong team. A team who tanked to get him. A team who will yet again probably shrug their shoulders and say, "Whoops! We had a really bad team I guess! It's a shame we were so terrible that we had the mathematically worst record in the NFL! Oh look... Trevor Lawrence is available at #1 overall! But yeah... a real shame about all that losing we did!"

**** you. And **** your shitty ****ing team. **** your owner and his coke-addled brain. Mother****er is a terrible ****ing human being who knows nothing about achieving something with your life, and yet he owns an NFL team who gets unlucky at JUST THE RIGHT TIME. That's not being a well-run franchise with good ownership. That's shitty ownership that uses its timed luck to not be the Cleveland Browns.

When the Colts drafted Luck, I silently cursed them in my head. I cursed Andrew Luck. I said, "Let this poor soul suffer a horrible fate in his NFL career. Let sorrow and pain be his mistress. May he carry the burden of that sorrow until it becomes unbearable, and may the rest of the team suffer for it!" I've never been more glad to see a mother****er get his body broken so badly he just has to call it quits on the NFL.

Luck didn't deserve this. But you certainly did. Your entire fanbase did. And your team did. You're all guilty. You know nothing about real winning. Or honor. Your shitty ****ing team was always going to be a huge ****ing farce no matter how well they did. You should be glad and thankful that the asterisk has been removed.

But you still have a looooong way to go, mother****er. You will never fully be cleansed of your sins as a Colts fan, but you can at least travel a path of relative penance. And it starts now.

Next stop: QB purgatory. Enjoy your stay, biiiiiiiiiiitch!

AHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Rivers is thinking I have 20 kids to put through college

Sounds like Luck realized he would be fighting this injury all year and would likely need surgery. Retiring now doesn't hurt the Colts any more than trying to be a tough guy all year just to ride the bench. It sucks for all involved, but if he was really ****ing the team over I don't think the owner, GM, and HC would show for the emotional press conference and show obvious support. Jim Irsay was effusive in his praise for the guy. I'd be heartbroken if I were a Colts fan, but there's no evidence here that he screwed anyone over. Good for the Chiefs or not, this kinda sucks. He was a fun guy to watch when he could stay healthy.

Nobody better lay a mother****ing FINGER on Pat.

There is no "courage" in Andrew Luck passing up future salaries he might earn by stringing this out.

His net worth is over $100 million and who knows how much daddy has.

He decided to make easy street easier.

That's all this is.

Guys the NFL needs to have succeed...at least 2/3 of them...

Mahomes
Mayfield
Murray
Haskins
Jackson
Darnold
Allen
Watson
Trubiski
Goff
Mariota
Prescott
Wentz
Garapolo
Carr
Foles

Sure would be nice if they would trade Quinten Nelson...but not after just drafting him.

They obviously just went into full rebuild mode, right?

The Colts are shit without Luck on their side.

FYP :D

I just don't believe the Colts owner, HC and GM would come together to wish Andrew well and send him off at his presser if he was screwing over the org. I think he was day to day and at risk of missing the season with surgery and rehab and he just said "**** it I'm out." He saves them money in the meantime and is no less productive. His body has just been too beaten up. That's it.

Why would they? Ballard has done a great job with the draft and they have a ton of cap space. They have good young players all over the field and one of the youngest rosters in the league. How do you "rebuild" from that? Trade them for other young players?

What are they supposed to say? The ****er blind-sided us and we're screwed? They've got to put a happy face on it. Or at least try to.

I watched the colts literally INTENTIONALLY TANK A SEASON for the #1 pick. It's the only season I sincerely believe I saw ownership and front office intentionally sabotage their coaches and players to make them fail.

**** them. The colts deserve this. Their fans may not, but yanno, **** them anyway.

Do they? Why? Do they have to even have a retirement press conference? I mean what does that get them? The public is poised to roast Luck as a quitter. You think Jim Irsay cares about public perception anyway?

No but it is what it is. Both players had their bodies quit on them and I'm not going to blame either for what they did. No matter what, they're villains to a segment of their fanbases and I feel for them for that.

When those people are buying tickets and merchandise? Yeah.

Mahomes
Watson
Mayfield
Wentz
Murray

NFL Quarterbacking is in good hands. Two of those guys were baseball players who picked football. Indeed, THE arm talent chose football and was drafted by KC

Good for us.

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Full Press Conference

Why does everyone keep saying Lawrence? I think that Herbert and Tua (I'm not attempting to spell his last name and I'm too lazy to Google it) both seem like better prospects. I watched Herbert a few times and he looks legit. It's hard for me to judge Tua because he plays for Alabama, and I don't trust QBs from Alabama, because pretty much any QB they play is going to look good.

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While I agree that 2 is way better than none, the fact is they had 2 of the top 5 or 6 quarterbacks in the history of the NFL, certainly top 10, and only won 2 Super Bowls. I think Rodgers is one of the most talented QBs to ever play, above Favre, and they managed to win 1.

Has any team in the modern era ever had two QBs as good as Favre and Rodgers back to back? What the Green Bay front office did to Rodgers is almost criminal.

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Wouldn't be surprised that after a year or so of hanging around the house doing those honey do's won't change his mind.

Andrew Luck was a BUST. He set that franchise back 15 years.

How many Colt's fans are now on suicide watch?

Bet a few of the housewives and pets will catch a beating as well.

Yes.

The 49ers transitioned from Joe Montana to Steve Young. They won 4 Super Bowls with Montana and one with Young.

Both QBs are in the Pro Football Hall Of Fame.

Lawrence isn’t eligible for 2 more seasons as I understand

**** the colts for tanking on purpose to get luck

His dad has something going on in the XFL, hmmmm?

If you have Mariota on the list, you need to have Winston on there as well.

I feel bad for the fans who bought season tickets. Hard working people their seasons tickets might be their only splurge and justified it because they were going to be competitive with Luck, I feel bad for players like Luck though who just want to play and compete.
I dont feel bad for Colts owner and managment for never giving him an offensive line.

Looks like the AFC is down to 5 Super Bowl contenders:
Chiefs
Patriots
Steelers
Chargers
Browns

Chiefs and Browns are the only ones with long term solutions at QB. Browns have a bunch of question marks too.

Yeah, that was my second thought after neckbeard.

I can’t feel sorry for anyone who doesn’t have the money to splurge, yet do it anyway. Luck hasn’t taken money out of anyone’s pockets, and if there are Colts fans that think that then they have some deeper problems to solve.

TOUGH LUCK, COLTS! :clap:

Gottlieb is a weezely little ****.

To be honest if you really love football you have a few screws loose in the head if you are a player. You put your body through unnatural harm. Cant blame Luck one bit for retiring. If I was in his shoes, I would probably done the same thing.

The league changed the rules for QB’s when Pollard destroyed Brady’s knee. They changed it again when Rodgers got placed on IR by Anthony Barr.

More rules are coming after this. Besides Mahomes, Wentz and Watson were two of the NFL’s youngest stars and they already went through IR before.

This is a devastating loss to the league. It hurts the parity and makes that many games less watchable.

Pat? Watson? Wentz?

if one of Daniel Jones, Haskins, Kyler Murray hits then great.

Trevor Lawrence, Justin Herbert and Tua are coming. One of them will pan out. NFL will be fine.

Feel bad for a fanbase that had the privilege of watching this QB come back from a 28-point deficit and beat us in the playoffs? When he recovered a fumble for a TD?

Nah. No sympathy here. I'll enjoy the fact that two of our biggest AFC rivals in the Colts and the Chargers are stacking up retirements, injuries, and holdouts.

And good for Luck. 99% of the time it's a team walking away from a contract to the detriment of the player. This is just the flip side of that.

That’s not Hobo’s spirit. He would of sucked the dogs dick getting every last cent out of the Mahomian Franchise he could. That’s the character of the Hobospirit. Luck had a 6 million dollar roster bonus coming 9/17/2019. Luck has more character in his left little toe nail clipping than Hobospirit would ever have if lived a 1000 years.

Just watched his press conference. Big fan of the guy after seeing that. Very open and honest presser. Really seemed to me that he wasn’t going to be physically able to play this season anyway. Best wishes to him. As for Colts fans,

Get ****ed, dicks.

But you're a girl, so that makes sense.

bunch of desk jockeys calling the guy a pussy.

****ing ridiculous.

Props to Hobo for saying he wasn’t feeling it in his spirit. Wonder what Clark and Andy was feeling in their spirit? I guess they showed their spirit after the season. I guess the real question if Hobo wasn’t applying the screws to the team why the hell hasn’t he signed elsewhere? Because everybody else knows he ain’t about shit and was just ****ing the Chiefs over the barrel. All for a nickel. You be you hobo. Should of known your character after your first contract. Whiny pouty broken spirit little bitch.

He's actually helping the team by retiring now instead of getting paid astronomically to rehab and not play this season (like Eric Berry did to us last year...)