Given my prior position on the depravity and hubris of judging others, I can't but feel that you are trying to recruit me onto a degenerate path.

I just picked an easy and obvious target, and said as much.

If you want to respond to what I asked earlier, go for it.

In an attempt to convenience me by asking and inconvenience you by not looking it up, I offer this simple little question:

Who the **** is Ellen Page?

I hear your posts in the voice of Boyd Crowder of Justified.

OK. The difference identified was that in one case disapproval is based on a characteristic that cannot be changed and in the other it's based on behavior that is a choice.

I'm not sure I understand your scope and severity question. Could you clarify it for me? Obviously, some people might find one behavior objectionable while not finding another objectionable to the same degree (e.g. homosexual activity vs. wearing objectionable clothing).

You are, presumably intentionally, ignoring the biological aspect of the discussion. Which is fine.

Moot, but fine.

Try another.

I'm actually amazed she's not more famous. She's a really good actress, if limited.

I think she's just been cornered by how amazing she was in Juno. She is Juno.

Well, luckily he's proven himself a race traitor, so I have that monkey off my back [NPI].

I'm not a fan

No clarification necessary. Your final sentence there shows you understood what I meant.

I guess I don't understand why homosexuality is a big screaming deal, and telling a basic, innocent lie (like lying about your age or weight on the internet) is lesser of one. One's a freaking commandment, and it ain't the gay one.

No, Diablo Cody was Juno. Ellen just embodied her very credibly.

LMAO

They're both biological aspects of a person. Sexual orientation, and race.

Imagine the outrage if they had cast Brad Pitt to play Jackie Robinson in the movie "42" in black face. Shouldn't we be outraged that they let a lesbian play Juno?

I think he's referring to the biological response to observation.

Why? They let one play Bleeker.

Sine it's rather obvious to me that you are aware of differences between skin color and the abnormality of homosexuality, I see no reason to continue the discussion with you.

I don't follow.

I don't really understand it either. It would make sense to me if a religious person opposed homosexuality to the same degree as adultery or the use of contraception (depending on their specific religious beliefs), but it doesn't make sense to me that it outranks so many of the ten commandments for many Christians.

Visually observing homosexual acts and exhibiting a physical visceral response.

Man, you guys are pussing out left and right in this thread. Totally unexpected, I must admit.

I don't see any reason why disapproving of somebody's sexual orientation is any less abhorrent than disapproving of somebody's race. If there's a deeper truth that clearly explains it, I'm love to hear it.

So far, the only response I've gotten from you is I'm stupid. Which may be correct, but it's not exactly a deal-sealer in terms of this discussion.

Juno?

Seriously?

She used pussy licking to get back on the map.

Just to play along, since you're obviously bored.

A person's race has nothing to do with their sexual abnormality. See, homosexuality invades all races. Biology doesn't discriminate.

Again, just speaking for me. But I define sin as separation from communion with God. I don't ranks sins, and I don't judge the sins of others.

Each person must evaluate for themselves how their thoughts and actions impact their relationship with God, and I would hope that they would seek to optimize their thoughts and behaviors to that end.

I guess because it's an Other thing. "I am not homosexual and never want to be, therefore the homosexual is The Other, and therefore condemned and must be rigidly treated as such."

But bearing false witness, taking the Lord's name in vain, coveting thy neighbor's shit -- "I do that stuff regularly, so... yeah it's condemned, but let's be people here."

Uh, wow. What movie was that?

i hope youre being sarcastic.

I don't see you as one of the people I was describing. I recognize that you oppose gay marriage and you hilariously make fun of these "I'm gay! announcements, but I don't get the sense that you are outraged by homosexuality the way some people seem to be.

I think it's dumb that white people can't put on some makeup and play a black person. They're actors, afterall.

That's probably right.

I just simply don't understand.

"Biology doesn't discriminate. Except when it comes to sexual orientation, so if biology gives somebody an abnormal sexual orientation, it is less abhorrent to disapprove of it, than it would be to disapprove of a person's ace."

Tell me what part of that paragraph doesn't represent your point of view, and why. Because that's what I'm hearing.

1 or 2 more gay threads and Donger might hit 100k by Easter

The one I might watch.

Juno made me want to hit myself in the head with a hammer.....(mostly due to her acting and her well documented acting style)

Skin color is a relative abnormality. Homosexuality isn't.

LMAO

Shut the **** up you Queen loving English Bob bastard.

Throw in a "Big Oil SUCKS!" thread and I'm there.

I really liked it. I like movies that have their own unique feel to them.

But, yeah, lesbianism would have really bumped it up a notch.

Go easy. Her progeny where out there filling sand bags today. Sand. Bags.

What's so special about that distinction? You're not really explaining yourself, well, at all.

LMAO

I'd like for you to expend some mental cycles on that and see what you come up with, honestly. It's pretty obvious.

"Biology doesn't discriminate. Except when it comes to sexual orientation, so if biology gives somebody an abnormal sexual orientation, it is less abhorrent to disapprove of it, than it would be to disapprove of a person's ace."

That's what I'm hearing, man. Sorry.

If that's dead wrong, then I'd like to hear it. I don't know what part of that, if any, is a mischaracterization of your point of view.

Of course you do. Your IQ is at least in the double digits. Why would you bait people on an issue in such a way that the thread would be destined to end up in D.C.?

I personally think Obama should order Congress to pass a Constitutional amendment! What do you think??

I think D.C. is the place for where you're trying to take this thread and, that being the case, there is already a thread there where you can further address the issue you brought up earlier, should you choose.

I really like pizza. I was born that way. Is that genetic?

Hey, I know some wild Thai girls

I guess Donger yearns for the days when he used "Barack Hussein" endlessly to troll and now just inserts "abnormality" into every post regarding sexual orientation to get the same response.

Lol at you for not studying science, then maybe you'd understand.

I bet Ellen has used a strap-on and put her in a pretzel. Waiting for the video.

It's clear that your use of "It's a choice" in the post above was specifically referring to behavior. You did not say being gay is a choice.

But it does raise the question. Do you think being gay is a choice?

Donger's night out with the boys.

https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/i...eJn8SvzdleGp_w

Please. Get real. Like that shit happens all the time? In every school in the country? A kid who speaks up in class and says homosexuality is wrong not only gets jeered at by classmates for a single period or day, but then gets followed around for the rest of his/her high school career each day with verbal abuse of "bigot" and "homophobe"? No. You're either not being honest or not thinking about the issue clearly enough.

That's a shitty comparison. It's far from the kind of bullying that causes an unfortunately high number of gay kids to commit suicide each year.

You never hear about kids who commit suicide because they were bullied about being a bigot. Why do you think that is?

Because it doesn't ****ing happen.

:spock:

I don't think we choose what we're attracted to whether it's fat women, athletic men, little children or whatever. I don't know how much of that attraction is hardwired or how much is changed by environmental factors after birth, but my guess is that it's a mix between the two.

Dumb.

Everyone judges people.

It's how we choose our friends.

Anyone who says they don't judge are liars, and people who criticize others for doing so are hypocrites.

You make judgements about people the second you see them. How they dress... how clean they are... how good looking they are. To say otherwise is just living in denial.

Yup.. and it doesn't happen because in the proper permissive atmosphere 90% of people become bigots and bullies.

It's just how people are.

That would be a huge thread. The OP followed by 10,000 "this" replies.

I agree that it may make a difference for the ones struggling with their sexuality, but I hate it when stars try to do PR on such things.

Very interesting thread. There's vehement homopobia, liberals dropping the KKK card, and a slippery slope argument on every single page. In the midwest there's clearly a hated for critical thinking that runs counter to German Protestant\baptist\WASP traditional family values so I wouldn't waste time arguing with the mentally weak.

Can we start a homo forum, chronicling all the stupid "coming out parties" of small potatoes mediocrities? Hamas and SNR and Lane and Donger could just have permanent mod powers there and the rest of the board could read about the Chiefs.

Really?

90%?

I doubt that...

Agreed. The only thing I would add is that I strongly believe that nobody would ever choose to be gay, because nobody in his right mind would choose to be the constant target of scorn, ridicule, and in some cases outright hatred.

That's why people like Fred Phelps and his ilk annoy the hell out of me.

Depends on how you look at things.

The (self) righteous indignation expressed in that post would be a little more understandable if you weren't such an active participant in practically every thread about politics and religion in the DC forum.

Feel free to elaborate.

Hatred? They are praised as heroes in our culture. What on earth are you talking about, hatred?

What you say makes sense to me, but I'll say that I've had gay friends tell me they wouldn't choose to be straight, so maybe it depends on perspective. Detoxing has an interesting story that seems to suggest some people might choose to be gay under some circumstances despite the potential social stigma.

Don't be obtuse. There are better ways to try to make your argument.

Of course, you may really believe what you just said. But I'm not going to insult your intelligence by assuming that.

What do you think the ratio is of actual people coming out-news stories to you posting different versions of this lame "joke?"
1/10?
1/25?

Oh, I believe that a lot of gay people would say that, but I think making a statement like that is quite different from starting from a neutral position and then choosing to be gay.

I'd be interested in hearing Detoxing's story.

MAN! DOG! I LOVED LED ZEPPLIN... CAN'T BELIEVE JIMMY PAGE IS GAY!

The song does not remain the same....

I had a cousin once who died from AIDS.

What do you expect when you stick your dick into another guys shit hole.

This thread is like the Energizer bunny

Kissing cousin? Hmmm?

You're clearly torn up about it...I'll wait to respond.

I think it's in the Michael Sam thread.

It happens whether or not you claim it doesn't. Kids really get suspended just for saying homosexuality is wrong or calling something gay, too.