First cheap upgrade you will love: Magpul CTR Stock.

Always enjoyed the do it yourself stuff.

Everything from a .32 black powder squirrel plinker to an AR bolt up, just never done an 80%. Figured the timing was right. :thumb:

As far as caliber goes, for my deer hunting needs, I really don't think it will matter that much. 99% of my shots are 50 yards or less. Deer hunting around here involves the woods, sticks and brush. And rarely will I be shooting some big, tough old buck. About the only reason I shoot a deer is to put meat, young, tender meat in a disabled friends freezer.
From what I've read so far I'm probably going to build one myself and just do it on a monthly budget. I learned a long time ago you never buy the low end model of any gun. ( It really sucks when, brand new, right out of the box the firing pin hangs up when the trigger is pulled then 3 seconds later snaps free and fires the gun:D)

Sounds like this disabled person has a helluva good friend, kudos :)

"One fiery casing nearly cauterized my eyelids together as it passed by, I could have been permanently blinded!"

Thanks guys and yes I've already started shopping for a few upgrades. Like the look of the Magpul stock kit Notorious! No worries needing a helmet or suffering PTSD here :D I have a T/C Contender pistol chambered in 45/70 that I hunted elk with in Wyoming with my uncle and have shot a Barrett 50 cal. I also got to shoot my cousins 338 Lapua. He's a retired Green Beret sniper now gunsmith.

300 BLK solves that problem. .308 projectile.

AR-10 is expensive to buy or build.

1,000rd 9mm Aguila 115gr ammo for about $215 with shipping. About $10.60 per box for brand new brass.

http://www.ammomenllc.com/index.php?...roducts_id=176

Yes it would be wise to stock up on anything you need that you can find a deal on now, because things could get interesting with ammo prices in about five months.

The owner of Shiloh rifles is my neighbor. Good guy. I ride motorcycles with him and went flying with him last week. If you ever get up this way I might be able to take you through his shop.

I've been thinking about getting a 45-70 for some time. I think I'm going with the Henry. I was thinking also of getting a cowboy gun like a Henry .357 mag so I can shoot .38's as well and in my Blackhawk.

That's a good deal.

Personally I like the 35 Whelen over 45-70. I sold my 35 Whelen Remington 700 classic bolt action a few years ago as my Elk hunting large game had pretty much dwindled because of work travel. Miss that sucker.

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This is a 22 AR style rifle that I bought about five years ago when I could buy a box of 550 rounds at Walmart for $20. It's a Smith & Wesson M&P 15-22. The only building I did was adding the extras which I list down below. It comes complete for about $400, I got it for about $300 new about five years ago. It's big brother Smith & Wesson M&P 15 Sport .556 is about $700 complete.

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In this photo I show the bi-pod, but I usually don't have it on the rifle in case I need to grab it quick but it attaches very fast if needed.

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I keep it in the trunk of my car, I figured if someone starts doing a massacre I want to be ready. I have a concealed weapons permit in Florida, but that's not even necessary in Florida to have this in your trunk with ammo. I store it in a Drago Soft Rifle Case 36" double, cost about $70 about 5 years ago.

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Since I want to be ready, I have 11 magazines 25 rounds each. One is on the buttstock and ten more are in a split front vest. These mags retail for $20, I picked up most from CDNN Sports in Texas for $16, that's their normal price and the last two from GunMag Warehouse in Miami for $12 each, they had a big sale.

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This is the complete list of extras;

UTG 3-9X32 Compact CQ Scope
UTG Low Profile Riser 13 slots
Hogue Monogrip for AR-15 Recoil absorbing Rubber
Magpul CTR Buttstock
Magpul CTR Recoil Pad Rubber 0.70"
Viking Tactical 2 Padded Sling with Quick Adjustment
Magpul MS1 MS3-QD Quick Detach Sling Adapter
TMS QD Quick Detach Push Button Sling Swivel
NcStar VISM L2 Green Laser
Larue Index Rail Clips
Larue Hand Stop
Bushnell TRS-25 Red Dot Scope
GG&G 45 degree Offset Rail
Sniper Tactical Flashlight Q5 260 Lumens
UTAC Tactical Offset Flashlight Mount 1" diameter
Magpul Angled AFG2 Foregrip
NcStar CVAR1PS2926B BLACK 5.56 Single Mag Buttstock Pouch
NcStar Precision Grade Bipod Full Size Legs 8" - 12"

Drago Tactical Double 36" Padded Gun Case

Condor MCR 7-002 Tactical Ronin Chest Rig Split Vest
Condor MA 44 Molle Triple Stacker Mag Double Pouches
Condor MA 43 Molle Double Stacker Mag Double Pouches

In case of close combat, I've got this EAA Sar K2P 9mm Pistol with the CZ magazines it will hold about 17 rounds. Made in Turkey and I bought it new for $279, I saw it advertised today in the paper for $259. It has a Hogue slip on rubber sleeve on the grip.

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MP-22s are nice. I have one with a Sparrow suppressor on it and I can hear the pin strike and nothing else with subsonic ammo.

Probably one of the funnest guns I own.

Thanks! He makes a very fine rifle. The one a got to look at close and handle was his Quigley model in 45/110. The craftsmanship put into it was exquisite.

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Bwana getting the ATV ready :D

I see he still hasn't hooked up the cooler trailer yet.

I think Marlin also makes a 45-70 lever action and there's another manufacture that makes a real cool one... I can't think of the name now...

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LMAO I love it, now all I need is a gunner and I'm set.

You're Welcome........


http://palmettostatearmory.com/smith...ck-811030.html

Quick question. A good friend of mine sold me an antique 1958 browning a-5 light 12 shot gun for like $200, thing is prestine. He told me he had it appraised at over $2,000.00 like 5-6 years ago. He's like 86 years old and he told me it's only been shot a few times. How do I get this appraised from a trustworthy source? Should I keep it? I'm thinking about selling it to finance getting an ar-15, a mossberg 590 and a glock 22 gen 4 and some ammo lol

I have one given to me by my grandpa. It's a 60's model I believe. Last I checked, it was worth in the $700 range. I could be wrong though. Been awhile since I looked.

Reporting for duty.

I gave in to the dark side and picked up a Windham Weaponry AR-10 this weekend. 16.5" medium tube, weighs 7.5lbs without sights or magazine. Sights, and a few rounds in the magazine gets it over 8lbs but still lighter than most I've seen. Never had shot a AR style rifle that actually had noticeable recoil until now. I Like It.

What do you guys think of this deal?

https://www.classicfirearms.com/radi...sp-15fgs-rifle

Or there is this...separate upper/lower for $430

https://www.classicfirearms.com/bear...pperar15assbly
https://www.classicfirearms.com/plum...reciever-black

I don't know much about the brands though...

Nice. I can imagine you'd feel the recoil of a .308 a bit more with it only being 8 pounds.

Anyone interested in a Green label Colt A2.Match Sporter? Still have the box. Five or six 30 round mags. And about 400 rounds of 69gr Sierra match king, hand loaded one round at a time by me for competition shooting...
I just don't have time or the eye sight anymore for this pre ban.
$1,100.00 ...PM if interested

Edit// Its a blue label Colt. I have so many guns I don't know what the hell I have anymore.

Radical makes great guns..that is a good deal on it..I just ordered a 24 in upper from radical to put together a 1000 yd gun

Yes!! Anytime you can get a complete AR 15 under $600 you do it IMHO. :clap:

Are you going to war?


If no, it will be just fine.

Hey Bwana, did you know there is a .458 AR??

AR vs. lever-action repeating rifle in .458. Which is better?

Maybe my next build??

410 gr bullet? Ouch.

That is one bad ass Suppressor..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aX3Bd84EaCQ

I took a half day off from work but dogged out at 10 am and headed to Liberty to the Clay Co. Courthouse for research on a job and to pick up plats.
Just happens my FFL is half a block from there. Came home with this can't wait to run some rounds through it.
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Walther 9mm ppq m2

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Love Walther. Almost pulled trigger on a PPQ, but decided to buy myself a Springfield-Armory 1911. As much as I love the high capacity nines, I was really looking for a "cousin" of the Colt I had carried in the Army back in the 70s-80s (before they made us switch over the the Sigs) in my office in Heidleberg.

I have the PPQ Classic with lever mag release, and a P99C. The triggers are incredible with the PPQ edging out the P99 for me. The PPQ mags fit the Compact P99 with a spacer sleeve installed. Makes the 99c a 17 shot for training.

DPMS or DEL-TON ARs? Anyone have experience with these brands?

At its current price, I like the deal. My advise is to Google the hell out of anything you are interested in to get a firm grasp about what they are going for so you can know for sure if what you are buying is a "deal" or not.

Would it be a better idea to just get 4 or 5 lower receivers right now and one upper instead of getting two complete ARs? That way I would have one built and have a few lowers that I could build out in the future. IDK...I've never built one before.

That would be my vote. I'm ordering two more lowers.

BTW, easy to build. Lots of excellent videos on YouTube.

Thanks for the Walther post. Bob Dole was about to change the thread title to"Let's talk ARs".

Which brand do you recommend? I found some Spikes Tactical stripped lowers for $89. And then there are a lot of polymer complete lowers from around $120. I not sure about those though.

Spikes are good lowers.

I'd stay away from polymer lowers, especially since aluminum lowers are so cheap and abundant.

And don't forget to stock up on lower parts kits, too.


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Alright...I have four stripped lowers, a lower build kit, and a Radical Firearms complete upper on the way. All for over $100 less than I sold my Sig556 for. Can't wait to try my first build.

Latest edition glock 17 gen 4. Came with 3 10 round mags, speed loader, lock and cleaning brush and additional hand pads

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I bought a Springfield 1903 yesterday. It's dated 1929 with a barrel dated 1944. Description says metal is very good with 90% blueing, very good stock with a couple minor handling marks. It also says bore is bright and shiny with a couple spots of minor surface pitting hoping it is minor. Muzzle gauge of a one. Action is smooth with a rebuild in 1944. It has a Remington bolt.

Bought it for $725. Is that about what it's worth?

Got my Springfield 03 today. This rifle is beautiful. Found one small spot with very light pitting on the bolt. Everything else looks clean. Going to shoot it a couple times, throw on some wax, and make it a safe queen.

I think you got a fairly good deal. Here locally at the gun shows the lower end for '03s is around $300 to $400 with upper end being a $800 to $900 for the run of the mill issue rifles. You'll definitely have to post some pics of it :D. Main thing is if you're happy with your purchase what else matters. Congrats on your purchase of piece of history!

I was finally able to snag a M1 Garand for a decent price online.

Hopefully I can pick it up from my FFL by next weekend and post some pics.

No kidding? The cheapest ones I could find on gunbroker were around $700-800. I'm not worried about all matching numbers and what not. I wanted an 03' and got one.

I'm sticking to collectible guns. More enjoyable to own pieces of history.

The ones I have seen in that lower end range I felt quite frankly were junk. They had the hell beat out of them. They weren't well maintained over their service life for sure. I didn't bother to inspect the bolts and bores on them because they looked so bad. Honestly I'm envious :D The '03 is another one of the guns on my long wishlist.

Sweet! Another one on my long wishlist :D

I've found two small spots of surface pitting on the bolt, very light spots. Other than that, everything looks well taken care of. The action is smooth and the wood is in good shape. The inside of the barrel looks good. I'm taking it to a gunsmith before I shoot it. I'm also going to wax it as soon as possible.

Time to start saving for an M1 Garand.

Everything has arrived...I picked up the lowers from my FFL yesterday...

If you want a Ruger 10/22 takedown this is your deal

http://palmettostatearmory.com/ruger...2lr-11177.html

Palmetto has a sweet package deal on an Aimpoint red dot, Magpul back up iron sight, and 12 Pmags for $399.97 plus free shipping.

You're basically getting a $50 Magpul sight and over $100 worth of mags for free.


http://palmettostatearmory.com/aimpo...-12-pmags.html

Crazy you posted this today, my buddy was just talking about wanting a 10-22 last night.

Sent him a link. Thanks

You got it. :thumb:

You ever get those lights figured out?


If not post a pic of your inner fender. I haven't had a chance to go get that 02 I got on a trade in lol.. I think they may want it out of their driveway, the trans is out. It's only a couple miles from the shop I may just go drag it back with a tow rope lol. Snap a pic and ill see what you need to do.

I did and it wasn't too bad, at least compared to the DPFE EGR Pressure Sensor. :shake: Thanks again for the tips on the lights. I was about to reach for the tannerite. :D

I bought a 1943 Inland General Motors M1 carbine back in 2011. Part of the original stock broke after visiting the range soon after I bought it. I put it in the safe and forgot about it.

I bought this 03' and it got me fired up to fix the Carbine. I spent the last couple days tracking down an original WWII Inland stock. I put a bid on one earlier. Hoping I win it and it is original. I'm also looking for an original WWII carbine sling (expensive) and original stock ammo pouch. A lot of repros out there.

http://www.ima-usa.com/original-u-s-...ww2-dated.html

Like this? I didn't see an original sling though on their site.

Yeah. I've read that IMA sells a lot of reproductions. The original slings run from $75-100.

So when I went to pick up the stripped lowers I ordered the other day, I had to fill out the form and go through the background check and everything. As part of that process, the FFL took a picture of my drivers license along side each lower (presumably with the serial number). So am I to believe that the government isn't keeping track of these things and storing them off somewhere and that they really don't know who has what guns? I mean, they aren't just ignoring the data and deleting it.

I figure i ought the pick up an AR before Hilldog becomes president and bans then. Any recommendations for a decent one between $500-700 range? Looking at an MP Sport currently. I used to have a Bushmaster Carbon 15 but i stupidly sold it after i set a pasture on fire with a stray tracer round.

https://gunsmidwest.com/uncategorized/dtsport/

This had also caught my eye. I've bought from him before. Great guy with cheap prices for local pick up.

Big brother is watching you... Or big sister if your dumb enough to vote for Hillary...

My M1 carbine is complete, as long as everything is original as the auctions state. Bought an original WWII stock, original WWII sling, original WWII oiler, and original WWII stock ammo pouch. It came with two pouches. All of it is dated between 43-44.

I spent a little more than I planned but wanted everything authentic. The stock matches the receiver and barrel. Hoping everything is legit.

Time to start saving for a WWII M1 Garand.

If I remember correctly, SA bought out the company in Croatia that designed the XD line. Instead of messing with manufacturing, they just changed the branding on the gun. I have the XDm 9mm, and love it. Looking into the XDs for a concealed carry gun.

Nice! A WWII M1 Carbine is high on my list of guns I need to add to my collection. Ideally, I'd like to find an all original Winchester for a decent price.

Don't forget to post pics of the M1 Carbine and the 1903.

I finally had a spare couple hours yesterday afternoon (pic attached). I ordered the upper already assembled from Radical Firearms. This was my first time building out a lower so it took me a couple hours watching youtube videos. The hardest part was getting those stupid little roll pins in. I need to get some of the specialized tools...the only thing I bought for this was the castle nut wrench. And the Magpul MOE pistol grip was an EXTREMELY tight fit. I don't know if they are that way in general, or just with the lower I got.

Looks great. First of many!

Amazon Prime or Midway USA sale with free shipping is how I got my tools.

Getting ready to build another one.

I spent two hours cleaning this 03' and that didn't include the bolt. One of my supervisors took the bolt completely apart and cleaned it up. This gun looks good now. Maybe someday I'll take it to the range.

Nice build. Here's the roll pin kit I got and so far it works pretty good.

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/422...tallation-tool

Anyone know anything about M1 Garands?

Found one I'm very interested in at gunbroker. Wanted someone to run through the pictures.

Awesome...thanks. That will likely be my next purchase.

This Will Affect All Shooters
 

All, some very disturbing information, which will affect all in the shooting sports.

U.S. State Department’s Directorate of Defense Trade Controls (DDTC), which is primarily responsible for administering the Arms Export Control Act (AECA) and its implementing rules, the International Traffic in Arms Regulations (ITAR). The upshot is that DDTC is labeling gunsmiths as “manufacturers” for performing relatively simple work such as threading a barrel or fabricating a small custom part for an older firearm. Under the AECA, “manufacturers” are required to register with DDTC at significant expense or risk onerous criminal Penalties:

http://pmddtc.state.gov/compliance/A...0(Publish).pdf

2. Registration Required – Manufacturing: In response to questions from persons engaged in the business of gunsmithing, DDTC has found in specific cases that ITAR registration is required because the following activities meet the ordinary, contemporary, common meaning of “manufacturing” and, therefore, constitute “manufacturing” for ITAR purposes:

a) Use of any special tooling or equipment upgrading in order to improve the capability of assembled or repaired firearms;

b) Modifications to a firearm that change round capacity;

c) The production of firearm parts (including, but not limited to, barrels, stocks, cylinders, breech mechanisms, triggers, silencers, or suppressors);

d) The systemized production of ammunition, including the automated loading or reloading of ammunition;

e) The machining or cutting of firearms, e.g., threading of muzzles or muzzle brake installation requiring machining, that results in an enhanced capability;

f) Rechambering firearms through machining, cutting, or drilling;

g) Chambering, cutting, or threading barrel blanks; and

h) Blueprinting firearms by machining the barrel.

So, if you own a lathe or milling machine would that be ” Use of any special tooling or equipment upgrading in order to improve the capability of assembled or repaired firearms” What about Brownells magnabit screwdrivers?

If you convert a bolt action rifle that holds 5 rounds to be a single shot, or convert a shotgun to only hold 3 rounds, you are now a manufacturer. (See b.) They don’t state increase round capacity, only change round capacity.

If you make a stock for a custom rifle or make one for that Parker, you are now a manufacturer, make a set of double set triggers, new barrel for a custom single shot…. You are now a manufacturer (See c.)

Buying a pre threaded/ pre chambered barrel for custom installation, as soon as you touch a lathe bit to that barrel to get correct headspace you are a manufacturer (see e. & h)

And god help you if you actually thread and chamber a barrel, you are definitely a manufacturer (see e. f. g. & h)

Do you reload? “ d. The systemized production of
ammunition,” all reloading by definition is systemized (to arrange in or according to a system; reduce to a system; make systematic), guess what reloaders, you are now a manufacturer. There is no distinction between personal or commercial use, and no definition on quantity. So if you produce one round in a systematic manner you are a manufacturer.

If you look at Category I (j)(1) of the United States Munitions List (USML) (22 CFR § 121.1) there is no exemption for sporting arms, or antique arms:
121.1 General. The United States Munitions
List.
1.
(j) The following interpretations explain and amplify the terms used in this category and throughout this subchapter:
(1) A firearm is a weapon not over .50 caliber (12.7 mm) which is designed to expel a
projectile by the action of an explosive or which may be readily converted to do so.

Think about this for a minute:

You or your gunsmith now has to apply for a 07 Manufacturing License from the ATF, and all the reporting requirements associated with that license.

In addition they now must register with the Department of State, Directorate of Defense Trade Controls (DDTC), pay a $2200 annual fee and a whole new set of reporting requirements.

So, to fit a new barrel, stock, cylinder trigger etc., or to blueprint your action your gunsmith must register with ITAR and do all the above.

That’s’ a lot to ask of your gunsmith.

For reloaders: “d. The systemized production of ammunition, including the automated loading or reloading of ammunition.”

Now, there are NO stipulations stating reloading for personal use is ok, NO stipulations on round count. Bottom line is if you currently reload with a progressive press you are probably in violation of the ITAR as currently written. Are you ready to go get your 07 manufacturing license and pay $2200?

What a bunch of crap. This administration is using any end-around it can to take away rights. So if I own a reloader, I'm a manufacturer? Idiocy.

JFC. What a load :cuss::#. And I was just thinking about getting back into reloading!

That's a load of shit.

Thanks Obama.