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Chief Pagan 04-28-2024 10:30 AM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 17502054)
Sigh. I’m jacked up for this roster. I might put money down on an undefeated season, after seeing what we did and seeing what our rivals didn’t do.

What are the current Vegas odds?

If you think KC's backups can win?

I don't see Andy playing starters just for an undefeated season.

O.city 04-28-2024 10:33 AM

If fau hits and plays well we’re gonna be tough

There’s still some vet de guys available so that shouldn’t be a problem

Need another rb

gordonelloyd 04-28-2024 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Bowser (Post 17502248)
Ain't it cool?

It's been a lot of fun watching teams trying to draft (and ultimately come up short) with the sole intention of taking Mahomes down, and now we're watching the league (arguably) implement new rules to give lesser teams a fighting chance against franchises with Mahomes-ian level talent (and there's only one of those).

Mahomes and the Chiefs are re-writing the standards of the NFL.

I would really appreciate getting an explanation of how the new kick return rules are intended to give lesser teams a better chance against us. I’d like to understand that.

In another post about what is the greatest dynasty ever I pointed out that the 1950s Montréal Canadiens were essentially so unbeatable, and especially on their power that the national hockey league change the power-play rules so that after you scored a goal, the penalized player came back on. That was a clear example of a league changing rules to handicap a team that Nobody else matched.

Is that the same situation here? If so, I’d like to understand it better.

MahomesMagic 04-28-2024 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 4th and Long (Post 17501931)
You left out the one obvious thing that can derail this train in a heartbeat. Injuries. Other than that, the corner issue is the glaring concern, at this point in time.



Good point.

I still want Pacheco insurance and another WR to do some of the Rashee Rice stuff.

Because the way he was used last year isn't great over a lot of games for health.

Hammock Parties 04-28-2024 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck (Post 17502232)
A threepeat, in the salary cap era? Man. It's hard to believe there's even a chance. If there's a team that ever could, this is it.

If you look back at history, the only thing that stopped the 90 49ers, 94 Cowboys, 05 Patriots....injuries, coaching changes and the salary cap.

Montana got hurt in the NFCCG.

Erik Williams had a horrendous car crash in 1994 for Dallas. Ken Norton was lost to free agency. Jimmy Johnson left (yeah that seems kinda huge lmao).

Teddy Bruschi got a STROKE. Richard Seymour missed 4 games. Ty Law was lost to free agency. Both coordinators left.

No one has had a better chance since 1990. :)

Marcellus 04-28-2024 03:39 PM

Hey guys I get it but KC had a team with like 5 HOF players on it in the late 60's early 70's. And one of the best players on those teams isn't even in the HOF unfortunately.

DCTwister 04-28-2024 03:47 PM

Shit we are so stacked that we just signed the best punter in history on a min contract, just in case. Thanks again, Buffalo.

Chief Roundup 04-28-2024 05:37 PM

The roster is players only. I wonder how the 94 team would stack up? It had Montana.

Why Not? 04-28-2024 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17502663)
Hey guys I get it but KC had a team with like 5 HOF players on it in the late 60's early 70's. And one of the best players on those teams isn't even in the HOF unfortunately.

Yeah we’ve discussed that some. Great teams. But if you’re telling me to pick the all time (from an individual year basis) roster, there is no way that roster can be without Patrick Mahomes. No way.

Chief Roundup 04-28-2024 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcellus (Post 17502663)
Hey guys I get it but KC had a team with like 5 HOF players on it in the late 60's early 70's. And one of the best players on those teams isn't even in the HOF unfortunately.

I don't know how you can truly compare the teams from that far back to the current. The speed of today versus the violence of yesteryears is so far apart that it makes it impossible.

ThaVirus 04-28-2024 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 17502790)
I don't know how you can truly compare the teams from that far back to the current. The speed of today versus the violence of yesteryears is so far apart that it makes it impossible.

You can’t. The 60s is going too far back.

It’s been said already but the 69 Chiefs’ center was 6’4” 236. That’s basically Mahomes. Imagine Mahomes at center going up against Chris Jones for 60 snaps lol it would be a merciless slaughter.

They’d have no answer for guys like Chris Jones, Mahomes, Kelce, Tyreek Hill. The league hasn’t seen guys like that yet.

IowaHawkeyeChief 04-28-2024 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chief Roundup (Post 17502790)
I don't know how you can truly compare the teams from that far back to the current. The speed of today versus the violence of yesteryears is so far apart that it makes it impossible.

couple that with no salary cap in those days and roster building was way easier.

Dante84 04-28-2024 06:19 PM

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Took a swing at roster projection. I think this is the up-to-date list after camp and UDFA signings (note - did not include minicamp invites).

I believe we have 98 players on the roster, and the roster size needs to be at 90, so there are 8 cuts to be made.

I believe there are 41 locks, 3 very likely, 20 players with a 50/50 shot, and 34 players with a less than 50/50 shot.

Combining the 41 locks and 3 very likely players, that leave 9 openings on the roster for 54 guys to fight over. That's crazy, and there's going to be serious talent that we cut!

I called out only 2 reasonable holes on our roster at this time:
Hole 1 - a veteran OT, which can easily be filled by signing Donovan Smith
Hole 2 - a RB 2/3, which may already filled by LRZ or our UDFA's. I would not be surprised to see a veteran RB brought in for camp to compete.

Dante84 04-29-2024 02:52 PM

Veach was asked about possibly bringing back players like Smith (LT) or Hardman (WR), and he said they want to get through OTA's to see what they have, but as it stands they feel pretty good about what they have now.

Interesting that they feel Wanya and Kingsley may be enough at LT.

Dante84 04-29-2024 02:53 PM

Also noted that the battle will be at starting LT and RB3 and they'll need ST chops. Sounds like CEH might be a lock.


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