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dlphg9 10-05-2020 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by PutQuinnIn (Post 15218360)
He made Matt Money Moore look pretty good.

Andy Reid did that.

DJ's left nut 10-05-2020 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Dante84 (Post 15218353)
I think Jets, Bengals, Falcons or Lions would be the preferred destinations.

I just hope he doesn't take our whole staff with him when he departs.

Here's hoping he takes House rather than Daly if he does. Unfortunately Daly is also our running game coordinator so EB will probably see some value there.

Merritt and Madison both seem like high quality coaches so we can probably shrug it off if he takes one over the other.

Maybe McCullough goes as his OC?

We'll definitely lose some dudes. Maybe if we're lucky Nagy or Pederson will get canned and he can pick up some of their guys.

Megatron96 10-05-2020 01:22 PM

It's interesting just how hard FoxSports and ESPN are selling EB. Literally every talking head since week 1 has mentioned how EB was slighted last season for not getting a HC job, and how it's a certainty that he'll get one this year.

And they've been completely uniform in their opinions, which is kind of weird. Not one dissenter, across every show and every personality? When's the last time that happened?

Not suggesting a conspiracy. Just odd that on this one subject, the sports news world is completely in accord somehow.

Mecca 10-05-2020 01:23 PM

I assume the "hot" candidates a long with Bienemy are going to be Matt Eberflus, Brian Daboll, Robert Saleh, Arthur Smith...I expect Byron Leftwich to get play because of his former player status etc.

Mecca 10-05-2020 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15218394)
It's interesting ust how hard FoxSports and ESPN are selling EB. Literally every talking head since week 1 has mentioned how EB was slighted last season for not getting a HC job, and how it's a certainty that he'll get one this year.

And they've been completely uniform in their opinions, which is kind of weird. Not one dissenter, across every show and every personality? When's the last time that happened?

Not suggesting a conspiracy. Just odd that on this one subject, the sports news world is completely in accord somehow.

Probably when Weis and Crennel were BB assistants that weren't getting hired, people acted like it was a travesty.

DJ's left nut 10-05-2020 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by dlphg9 (Post 15218370)
Why? Not like anything will change at all. Kafka is probably just as involved in the game plan as Bienemy is now. Andy is and will be until he retires the most influential/deciding voice for the offense. It's not like Andy just keeps getting lucky and gets all these great offensive geniuses. Andy is the only offensive coach that matters.

What we'll lose is most likely to be in the 'voice' that EB brings.

To a person, everyone talks about Bieniemy as the teams emotional center. Even defensive guys will talk about how focused/fired up he gets them.

Andy is so cerebral that having a firebrand in the offensive coaching room is probably a pretty good thing. Kafka's just never seemed like that kind of guy.

It gets harder and harder to keep guys focused in the face of success and familiarity. He'll be missed in that regard.

jjjayb 10-05-2020 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Megatron96 (Post 15218394)
It's interesting ust how hard FoxSports and ESPN are selling EB. Literally every talking head since week 1 has mentioned how EB was slighted last season for not getting a HC job, and how it's a certainty that he'll get one this year.

And they've been completely uniform in their opinions, which is kind of weird. Not one dissenter, across every show and every personality? When's the last time that happened?

Not suggesting a conspiracy. Just odd that on this one subject, the sports news world is completely in accord somehow.

I've been a little surprised by this reaction as well. EVERY talking head says it's a travesty he hasn't been hired as a head coach. I don't see it. He's the Offensive Coordinator under Andy Reid. Everyone on the planet knows Andy Reid is basically the offensive coordinator. I don't see being the offensive coordinator on an Andy Reid team as a big selling point. Unless you were a successful O.C. somewhere else too.

Now, if you were a first time defensive coordinator under Andy Reid and did a great job I could see that. Andy has nothing to do with the Defense.

Dante84 10-05-2020 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by jjjayb (Post 15218409)
I've been a little surprised by this reaction as well. EVERY talking head says it's a travesty he hasn't been hired as a head coach. I don't see it. He's the Offensive Coordinator under Andy Reid. Everyone on the planet knows Andy Reid is basically the offensive coordinator. I don't see being the offensive coordinator on an Andy Reid team as a big selling point. Unless you were a successful O.C. somewhere else too.

Now, if you were a first time defensive coordinator under Andy Reid and did a great job I could see that. Andy has nothing to do with the Defense.

Doug Peterson won a Superbowl with Nick Foles

Sassy Squatch 10-05-2020 01:34 PM

Speaking of the Bengals, the guy they took one pick before Mahomes has been a healthy scratch the past couple of weeks.

Mecca 10-05-2020 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle (Post 15218428)
Speaking of the Bengals, the guy they took one pick before Mahomes has been a healthy scratch the past couple of weeks.

Ross is just a fast dude that isn't great at football, and AJ Green is looking like he's done.

htismaqe 10-05-2020 01:41 PM

There's no guarantee he's leaving.

He's been a head coaching candidate for 2+ years and hasn't left yet.

DJ's left nut 10-05-2020 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe (Post 15218450)
There's no guarantee he's leaving.

He's been a head coaching candidate for 2+ years and hasn't left yet.

Goodell will call in some favors with an owner if he has to.

The outcry will be deafening, rightly or wrongly, if he doesn't get the HC gig.

Honestly, after he got shut out last year, I kinda started wondering the same thing. Is there something that's happening in these interviews that is keeping him from getting hired? Is he coming across as more bark than bite?

The absolute only way he stays is if he gets 2-3 offers and just decides he doesn't want to go there and he'd rather wait another year. He's GONNA get offers. Roger will see to that.

htismaqe 10-05-2020 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15218473)
Goodell will call in some favors with an owner if he has to.

The outcry will be deafening, rightly or wrongly, if he doesn't get the HC gig.

Honestly, after he got shut out last year, I kinda started wondering the same thing. Is there something that's happening in these interviews that is keeping him from getting hired? Is he coming across as more bark than bite?

The absolute only way he stays is if he gets 2-3 offers and just decides he doesn't want to go there and he'd rather wait another year. He's GONNA get offers. Roger will see to that.

I don't think he wants to be a HC bad enough, honestly.

Does anybody really believe he wants to go to Detroit or New York? He'll be an OC again in 4-5 years.

EB strikes me as a pretty smart guy. Very few "hot" coordinators go on to be wildly successful as head coaches. The vast majority of them flame out.

I mean, he only has to look down the hall at Steve Spagnuolo.

BleedingRed 10-05-2020 01:53 PM

Bunch of franchises with Aging QB's or Brand new ones vs. (Houston) a Franchise QB just entering his Prime.

Like I said, no brainer here.

chinaski 10-05-2020 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 15218473)
Honestly, after he got shut out last year, I kinda started wondering the same thing. Is there something that's happening in these interviews that is keeping him from getting hired? Is he coming across as more bark than bite?

The absolute only way he stays is if he gets 2-3 offers and just decides he doesn't want to go there and he'd rather wait another year. He's GONNA get offers. Roger will see to that.

Perhaps he's holding out for the ideal situation. I certainly wouldn't want to risk my reputation on some dumpster fire of a team with shitty ownership.


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