They were okay. Better than the last trilogy was. I don't recall R1 having one light hearted moment in it. I recall it being depressing. I don't need it to try to have marvel level comedy in it, but I don't want to have to start drinking two thirds of the way through a movie that I didn't expect to be such a downer. I get that they want to bridge their older movies with the newer ones, but you're right that there's a way to dispense with the old for the new

There were plenty of light hearted moments in R1. K-2SO had like 8 gold laugh out loud 1 liners on his own.

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Yes, I'm not giving them my money directly. I'm sure I'll watch it on netflix or whatever someday.

They're not entitled to it. Disney star wars sucks ass.

If you have a girlfriend for 2 years and she starts cheating on you, you don't stay with her cos it would be a waste of time and money spent. You move on to better things.

SW was never a big deal to me. I liked it. It was fun, but I thought Empire was the only great movie. Just like I think TLJ is the first awful SW movie. I've ranted more than enough about why. Yes it's worse than any of the prequel trilogy. It fails, utterly, as a narrative. It's just stuff happening.

exactly. why not enjoy a Kurosawa film?

I haven't watched any of the of the Disney SW films. they aren't made for me. The new Disney SW movies are made for the racially masochistic nerds who don't know anything about cinema. Empire was tits. ROTJ was bush. the prequel trilogy was like an exhibitionist fat chick that acted immature. and the Disney movies are like finding a 4K Katie Hill sex tape in the woods but when you try to watch it, you get distracted by the narration provided by Liz Warren.

I’ve decided to direct my venom where it belongs — at Rian Johnson’s next movie “Knives Out” which I hope bombs miserably at the box office.

Random plug, but Good point. I'm a big Kurosawa fan. I think I'll plug in some Yojimbo tomorrow...

That's eerie, because I had the same thought. Potential shame, too - he assembled a hell of a cast for it. But, I'm definitely with you here.

I flat out despised The Force Awakens (Jar Jar Abrams gave us new lame characters) but then gave The Last Jedi a chance in theaters because I wanted to see Mark Hamill tear it up but left severely disappointed and letdown by that one too (Rian Johnson's direction was horrible as were some of the subplots thru out). So Disney has fooled me twice and I have no confidence or any interest in Rise of the Skywalker. Don't care about the new cast or how Rey & Kylo Ren are going to carry the film. Those characters suck.

To kill snoke the way that they did after all the hype is egregious, as is killing Luke before the last movie of the "skywalker saga". They made such a disjointed mess with characters that don't even hold close to the power the original cast exuded. I think this one will be the best of the latest trilogy but it'll take major rebranding and storywriting to go from here.

Is it even worth going past this era? Is it a never ending cycle of good vs bad? An empire will rise again? Sith? How much further will they go in time... a generation?

Before Kennedy and Abrams, the original treatment was suppose to be set 1000 years after ROTJ for a new trilogy separate from Skywalker

I haven't seen a SW film in the theaters since Return of the Jedi however I have bought them all up until Solo. The Last Jedi just left me feeling cheated. I have Netflix and see that Solo is available and haven't bothered to watch it. I have the same feeling about the latest Star Trek and Marvel movies; they are just going through the motions. Nothing really new, lots of razzle, dazzle, action with little to like in the characters.

Guess I'm just getting old. Everything just seems like a rehash of old ideas. Yeah, I'm not the target market anymore however my money still spends and I'm not going to spend it on this.

That would've been perfect and if Abrams had the balls and innovation i think he's somewhat capable of he could've boosted his legacy big time, now it may be to late.

TLJ is officially now bad enough that the entertainment to be had is in snarking on it, as opposed to actually being invested in it. Kind of like Studio 60 turned out to be riveting viewing just to see Aaron Sorkin have a full-on therapy breakdown through his characters as opposed to being an actual interesting television show.

RedLetterMedia's takedown was definitive, but coincidently Mr. Reagan recently posted a lengthy diatribe. He's more overtly political in his criticism than I would be, but he makes a compelling case that KK and RJ purposefully and pointedly shat on what came before. Hatred for the movie is not accidental, and mere entertainment by the spectacle of it means you weren't paying much attention.

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Watch The Mandalorian.

The pacing was so bad that I was so bored that I must've missed them