Originally Posted by Scooter Libby (Post 13248494)

Yup if I'm a 5* CB I'm taking a look at ASU

Originally Posted by WhawhaWhat (Post 13248511)

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">BREAKING: Herm Edwards is expected to be Arizona State’s next football coach pending approval of University President Dr. Michael Crow <a href="https://t.co/tZAfzu1Rs1">https://t.co/tZAfzu1Rs1</a></p>— SunDevilSource.com (@SunDevilSource) <a href="https://twitter.com/SunDevilSource/status/936021107361984513?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">November 29, 2017</a></blockquote>
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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13248472)

I told you I’m not reading that hogshit. I can’t stand that man. I’m not going to look up examples for you where you will just make up some damned other excuse for your hero. Just like you did with your dumbass 3 years in the league with Vermiels roster. **** that shit. If you’re too goddamned simple minded to remember him taking about ball control before games I don’t know what to tell you man.

Herm was and remains a fraud. Just because you can’t see how your hero was completely clueless regarding the offense I won’t help you. I already tried with your ridiculous just what the franchise needed ridiculousness.

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13248510)

Did I say he was 100% wrong? I said he was a shit coach and a shit personnel man. He was bad at every single aspect of his job but he’s not 100% wrong.

In point of fact he was on the radio a few weeks back talking about when he suspended LJ for smacking that chick. I listened to it, remembered what happened and I’m totally on board with what he did.

Cutting some high priced used up guys was the right call. A few draft picks were the right call (even if he was too ****ing stupid to use Charles when anybody with a brain could see he was better than LJ). And if he really was the driving force to make King Carl give up the Marty approach that was right too.

He was shit at every aspect of his job but I’m not blind to what he did right.

And I’m not like the Alex Smith haters. I was probably one of the last ones that defended him outside of the but huggers. I didn’t want to bench him before we drafted Mahomes because there wasn’t a better option. I am opinionated but I’m not a blind rage monster like you allege.

You are just incomprehensibly white knighting the worst coach I’ve seen.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13248550)

If you hate Herm, that's your opinion. I don't care what you think about how he built his roster. We've debated that plenty.

The claim that he rejected Gailey's offense is an accusation on a totally unproven "fact." It's a totally baseless accusation. Own up to it. Unless you can find a single shred of evidence that Herm wanted to completely scrap the spread or that he openly rejected what Gailey was doing.

You made the accusation, not me. Back it up.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13247321)

He is too far removed from coaching. But I think people forget that he openly embraced Gaileys pistol offense which was wide open. And heimidinger, who if not for Penningtons injured noodle arm, might have run a pretty vertical offense. I don't think he's as sold on r2p2 as people remember. The Tampa 2, on the other hand... That isn't going to work.

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501 (Post 13248568)

Sorry, I find it just a little ridiculous that in the world of Bill Callahans, Bob McAdoos, and Romeo Crennels, that people act like Herm was the worst coach to ever live. Compared to those coaches, he's a hall of famer.

I'm glad to see what you said above. I agree with most of it. That is the first I've heard of you even hinting at a compliment so I wasn't aware that's where you stood. And no, I'm not white knighting Herm. Calling him "not good" is not a defense of him as a coach. It's a defense against people who have such an irrational hatred for the guy.

Originally Posted by Servant_KC (Post 13248634)

Okay Buehler_445. He’s just trolling you now.

Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 13248623)

Crennel could at least call a defense. Are you talking about Ben McAdoo? He could call an offense. Callahan is pretty garbage but I don't see him being materially worse than Squirmin Herman Mother****ing Sack of **** Edwards.

I've never said anything about the good things he did because the first thing you said to me about it was blasting me for (correctly) asserting that he wrecked the franchise (because he did).

You very much white knighted him when you said he is "exactly what the franchise needed" While was going about wrecking the franchise.

Originally Posted by Servant_KC (Post 13248549)

Those poor bastards. How many years until he wrecks this university’s football program.

He’s not a talent scout or guru.

Originally Posted by wazu (Post 13248662)

Carl and Vermeil wrecked the franchise. Herm was brought in to pick up the pieces.

Originally Posted by lewdog (Post 13248669)

Their football program is pretty shitty anyway.



Not sure anyone would notice.

Originally Posted by BryanBusby (Post 13248718)

He got the job because the ASU AD was once his agent LMAO