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KCUnited 03-20-2024 08:16 PM

Pretty much can’t tackle someone from behind without pushing them forward

If they’re moving forward and you grab them from behind, and weigh less, your only option is to pretty much to drop your weight and their legs are likely to be under you

So the Donny Edwards drag 5+ yards rule

kysirsoze 03-20-2024 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Monticore (Post 17451961)
You tackle the legs

That's one way, yeah. I don't know what games people have been watching. There are a bunch of ways to get a guy to the ground without doing this specific thing.

jd1020 03-20-2024 08:21 PM

If you thought this team was bad at tackling before, can't wait for all the "****ING TACKLE HIM!!!" in the game day threads when their only option becomes swiping at the shoelaces.

comochiefsfan 03-20-2024 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 17451950)
Not sure how this relates to a horse collar tackle.

How the **** do you tackle a runner from behind with this rule?

Because in both instances, you abruptly stop the ball carriers’ upper body momentum while their legs continue moving, causing a high probability that the legs will get trapped beneath the body when the ball carrier is brought down, leading to a significant risk of lower body injury.

It is important to note with the hip drop rule that this isn’t a ban of grabbing the ball carrier’s legs from behind or even grabbing them high, the defender simply can’t begin by grabbing the ball carrier high and then dropping down onto the legs.

I really don’t think it’ll be as hard to eliminate from the game as it sounds and I don’t think there will be many noticeable changes.

jd1020 03-20-2024 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 17451972)
Because in both instances, you abruptly stop the ball carriers’ upper body momentum while their legs continue moving, causing a high probability that the legs will get trapped beneath the body when the ball carrier is brought down, leading to a significant risk of lower body injury.

It is important to note with the hip drop rule that this isn’t a ban of grabbing the ball carrier’s legs from behind, the defender simply can’t begin by grabbing the ball carrier high and then dropping down onto the legs.

I really don’t think it’ll be as hard to eliminate from the game as it sounds and I don’t think there will be many noticeable changes.

The **** are you talking about "grabbing him high"? Do you even see the damn example in the tweet? He's grabbing his ****ing hips.

KCUnited 03-20-2024 08:23 PM

The should’ve just shot him in the leg rule

comochiefsfan 03-20-2024 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jd1020 (Post 17451973)
The **** are you talking about "grabbing him high"? Do you even see the damn example in the tweet? He's grabbing his ****ing hips.

To put it as simply as possible,

The danger of a horse collar tackle and the danger of a hip drop tackle are both the legs being trapped beneath body weight.

In both instances, the ball carrier will fall backwards awkwardly and have their legs trapped beneath them. They are very closely related plays.

kccrow 03-20-2024 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by scho63 (Post 17451925)
I have no idea how a DB weighing 210 brings down a 275 lb TE running full speed.

Same way they should have been taught in Pee Wees for the past 50 years?

R Clark 03-20-2024 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MagicHef (Post 17451677)
If they keep the definition as narrow as it is in that tweet, it will get called what, maybe 3 times in a season?

Key words

kysirsoze 03-20-2024 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut (Post 17451653)
Whenever stuff gets proposed in the name of 'player safety' it tends to get adopted. If the NFLPA wants it, the NFL is unlikely to fight hard against it because they don't want to be on the other side of a lawsuit in the future.

Was just reading more about this and I'm seeing the the NFLPA doesn't want it. Thinks it's too hard on the defending player. I think the league is gonna go ahead anyway because they don't want to have stars unavailable for the playoffs if they can help it.

CatinKS 03-20-2024 09:00 PM

Now, I'm afraid I'll be watching nothing but "Flag Football" before I die. This generation is getting so Soft.

Arch Stanton 03-20-2024 09:13 PM

Yet another penalty that can be called, or not called, whenever it needs to be called.

Or not called.

chiefzilla1501 03-20-2024 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CatinKS (Post 17451993)
Now, I'm afraid I'll be watching nothing but "Flag Football" before I die. This generation is getting so Soft.

Yeah, these pussies can't even be a man and play through broken fibulas

Buehler445 03-20-2024 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by CatinKS (Post 17451993)
Now, I'm afraid I'll be watching nothing but "Flag Football" before I die. This generation is getting so Soft.

Yeah they may be soft, but they are exponentially bigger, faster, stronger and more explosive than the old generation by a huge margin. If they played like they did in the 70s there would be far more injuries.

The game isn’t the same.

kysirsoze 03-20-2024 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Buehler445 (Post 17452022)
Yeah they may be soft, but they are exponentially bigger, faster, stronger and more explosive than the old generation by a huge margin. If they played like they did in the 70s there would be far more injuries.

The game isn’t the same.

Good Lord, can you imagine if Aaron Donald had the freedom those guys used to have? He'd kill 1 or 2 guys a season.


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