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bsp4444 01-22-2019 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Baster mater (Post 14064396)
Brent Venables. Young and knows how today's game is played.

Also makes 2 mil as a college coordinator.

FloridaMan88 01-22-2019 02:48 PM

The Ryan family hasn't exactly had a great history serving as the defensive coordinator for teams with explosive offenses.

Rob Ryan clashed with Sean Payton and things ended badly for him with the Saints.

And of course Buddy Ryan famously clashed with Kevin Gilbride (punching him in the face) when he was DC with the Houston Oilers.

Sassy Squatch 01-22-2019 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 14064370)
In an interview with ESPN's Josina Anderson, Bills defensive tackle Marcell Dareus said that "everybody's job is on the line" on the team.

"I like Rex, personally," Dareus said. "I don't like to see anyone get fired.

"Everyone is fighting for their position, so we're at a point where we have to make a change."

Asked why he thought the Bills' defense seemed to regress under Ryan, Dareus told Anderson that he believes "we should've been more aggressive on defense ... because that's the kind of players we have."

"We want to put our foot on the pedal and keep it down knowing what we're doing and being strategic on what we're doing," Dareus said. "Not trying to match up with this team or that team. We want to have our identity [knowing] this is who we are and what we're going to do."

Dareus indicated Ryan's defense was too complicated.

"It was just too much detail for a lot of guys, and I feel like for a lot of guys it was too much going on for them to check here and check there, if this happens and that happens," he said. "Then nine times out of 10, a team will throw something out there that we weren't prepared for -- and then the adjustment to it we had to get used to and try to make it happen and make plays."

"Too complicated. Not aggressive enough."

****. No.

Abba-Dabba 01-22-2019 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by The Pest (Post 14064388)
In 1987, he was acquired by the Kansas City Chiefs to play outside linebacker, reuniting him with former Saints defensive coordinator John Paul Young. He started 9 games at right outside linebacker, tallying 45 tackles, 2 sacks and one forced fumble.

That season the NFL players went on strike. Throughout this period of time, Del Rio and teammates picketed outside of Arrowhead stadium and were vigilantly watching for replacement players attempting to enter the facility. Del Rio mistakenly mistook former Chiefs wide receiver Otis Taylor for a replacement player and assaulted him. At the time, Taylor was a scout for the Chiefs organization and had been retired for 12 years. Chiefs fans who came across the assault told Del Rio that Taylor was actually an 11-year veteran and legend in the Kansas City Chiefs organization. Taylor would later press charges and the two would settle out of court.[11]


Not on the Del Rio express, but holding 3 decade old grudges can't be healthy.

OnTheWarpath15 01-22-2019 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2 (Post 14064370)
In an interview with ESPN's Josina Anderson, Bills defensive tackle Marcell Dareus said that "everybody's job is on the line" on the team.

"I like Rex, personally," Dareus said. "I don't like to see anyone get fired.

"Everyone is fighting for their position, so we're at a point where we have to make a change."

Asked why he thought the Bills' defense seemed to regress under Ryan, Dareus told Anderson that he believes "we should've been more aggressive on defense ... because that's the kind of players we have."

"We want to put our foot on the pedal and keep it down knowing what we're doing and being strategic on what we're doing," Dareus said. "Not trying to match up with this team or that team. We want to have our identity [knowing] this is who we are and what we're going to do."

Dareus indicated Ryan's defense was too complicated.

"It was just too much detail for a lot of guys, and I feel like for a lot of guys it was too much going on for them to check here and check there, if this happens and that happens," he said. "Then nine times out of 10, a team will throw something out there that we weren't prepared for -- and then the adjustment to it we had to get used to and try to make it happen and make plays."


Well this doesn't sounds familiar AT ALL.

[sarcasm font]

chiefzilla1501 01-22-2019 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by RubberSponge (Post 14064431)
Not on the Del Rio express, but holding 3 decade old grudges can't be healthy.

I think del Rio is basically the DC for cincy once the Bengals announce their new head coach.

BleedingRed 01-22-2019 02:59 PM

For those of you saying HELL NO to Rex Ryan I'd like to point out a couple of things..............

Rex Ryan's Worst:

Points = 24th

Rushing Defense = 29th

Passing Defense = 22nd

Yards = 19th

Below I have highlighted with green boxes EVERYTIME his defense was top 10 in each of those categories

<a href="https://imgbb.com/"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/TKZBNbc/afasfasf.png" alt="afasfasf" border="0"></a>

Chris Meck 01-22-2019 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RN47 (Post 14064152)


this.

BleedingRed 01-22-2019 03:06 PM

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Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 14064467)
For those of you saying HELL NO to Rex Ryan I'd like to point out a couple of things..............

Rex Ryan's Worst:

Points = 24th

Rushing Defense = 29th

Passing Defense = 22nd

Yards = 19th

Below I have highlighted with green boxes EVERYTIME his defense was top 10 in each of those categories

<a href="https://imgbb.com/"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/TKZBNbc/afasfasf.png" alt="afasfasf" border="0"></a>

So for those of you keeping count...........

Rex Ryan's Career Averaged out where his defense ranks

Yards = 7th
Passing Defense = 9th
Rushing Defense = 10th
Points = 13th

The Franchise 01-22-2019 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 14064467)
For those of you saying HELL NO to Rex Ryan I'd like to point out a couple of things..............

Rex Ryan's Worst:

Points = 24th

Rushing Defense = 29th

Passing Defense = 22nd

Yards = 19th

Below I have highlighted with green boxes EVERYTIME his defense was top 10 in each of those categories

<a href="https://imgbb.com/"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/TKZBNbc/afasfasf.png" alt="afasfasf" border="0"></a>

The Ravens defense is making everyone want Ryan.

We don't have Ed Reid or Ray Lewis on this defense.

Mennonite 01-22-2019 03:06 PM

If it happens, someone in KC is gonna make a fortune selling barbecued pigs feet.

OnTheWarpath15 01-22-2019 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedingRed (Post 14064467)
For those of you saying HELL NO to Rex Ryan I'd like to point out a couple of things..............

Rex Ryan's Worst:

Points = 24th

Rushing Defense = 29th

Passing Defense = 22nd

Yards = 19th

Below I have highlighted with green boxes EVERYTIME his defense was top 10 in each of those categories

<a href="https://imgbb.com/"><img src="https://i.ibb.co/TKZBNbc/afasfasf.png" alt="afasfasf" border="0"></a>


So according to this, the last time he had a consistently good defense was...

NINE seasons ago.

MAHOMO 4 LIFE! 01-22-2019 03:11 PM

Rex Ryan was in the top 10 every year he coached at either pass defense or run defense. We were 29th and 31st in run and pass

mcaj22 01-22-2019 03:12 PM

Yo I'll say it

Those Jets teams that prop up guys like Sutton and Ryan were absolutely STACKED with talent. The fact that Sutton and Ryan have held onto jobs this long after all those guys on the Jets have been out of the league is amazing. Anyone on this board could have coached those Jets defenses to top 10 finishes.

They were solid at every single position on the field. They carried MARK SANCHEZ at QB to two AFC Conference games for goodness sake. Those coaches should get zero credit for that. There was no development, it was all veterans or can't miss prospects that played above and beyond the scheme.

htismaqe 01-22-2019 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by MAHOMO 4 LIFE! (Post 14064515)
Rex Ryan was in the top 10 every year he coached at either pass defense or run defense. We were 29th and 31st in run and pass

Bob Sutton fielded FOUR top 10 scoring defenses when he was here. In 2014 and 2015, they were one of the best defenses in the league.

Stats don't tell the whole story.

DO NOT want Rex Ryan, there is no case for him. This team needs NEW blood.


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