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-King- 12-27-2020 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by A Salt Weapon (Post 15427938)
Well this just got interesting

In what way? Mahomes had a teribble game and Rodgers had a 4 touchdown game against a playoff team and currently has 44 touchdowns to 5 picks on 70+% completion. At this point the only raw stat Mahomes has working for him is yards.

Halfcan 12-27-2020 11:41 PM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15428056)
In what way? Mahomes had a teribble game and Rodgers had a 4 touchdown game against a playoff team and currently has 44 touchdowns to 5 picks on 70+% completion. At this point the only raw stat Mahomes has working for him is yards.

And that pesky stat called - WINS!

-King- 12-27-2020 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 15428065)
And that pesky stat called - WINS!

Ok so we have:

Wins: Mahomes
Yards: Mahomes
Touchdowns: Rodgers
Completion percentage: Rodgers
Interceptions: Rodgers
TD:INT ratio: Rodgers
Passer Ratings: Rodgers

mr. tegu 12-28-2020 12:02 AM

Patrick Mahomes is now the overwhelming NFL MVP favorite
 
The only way Rodgers loses it is if he is the main reason, like the Bucs game, that they lose to the Bears. And if they somehow lose the bye that would really do it. Mahomes probably still needs to get to that 5,000 yards and 40 TD mark in this scenario to really make him the obvious choice.

TEX 12-28-2020 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15428056)
In what way? Mahomes had a teribble game and Rodgers had a 4 touchdown game against a playoff team and currently has 44 touchdowns to 5 picks on 70+% completion. At this point the only raw stat Mahomes has working for him is yards.

Yep. It's Rogers to lose now.

A Salt Weapon 12-28-2020 12:05 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15428056)
In what way? Mahomes had a teribble game and Rodgers had a 4 touchdown game against a playoff team and currently has 44 touchdowns to 5 picks on 70+% completion. At this point the only raw stat Mahomes has working for him is yards.

Mahomes put up his stats against some of the best teams in the NFL, while having every single team he played treat it like their super bowl. Rogers put up his stats against mostly garbage teams. Rogers had a great season, but Mahomes is league MVP.

comochiefsfan 12-28-2020 12:13 AM

Mahomes should’ve won this award this season. He had it all but locked up after the TB game.

Instead he essentially choked it away with very poor performances by his standards in 3 of the subsequent 4 games.

It sucks because I really wanted it for him, but it’s not gonna happen this year and I have to think this is one that he’ll look back on at the end of his career and kick himself a little for.

Oh well. On to bigger and better things.

Megatron96 12-28-2020 12:15 AM

JC.

Mahomes effectively shit the ****ing bed today. Rodgers owns most of the relevant QB stats for the season. W/L is not a relevant QB stat.

Let it go, people. Rodgers deserves to win this year's MVP award. Period.

Mahomes will win a couple handfuls of MVPs over his career. Just not this year's.

As long as he wins the SB who gives a ripe shit.

-King- 12-28-2020 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by A Salt Weapon (Post 15428082)
Mahomes put up his stats against some of the best teams in the NFL, while having every single team he played treat it like their super bowl. Rogers put up his stats against mostly garbage teams. Rogers had a great season, but Mahomes is league MVP.

The schedule is the schedule. Other than the Bucs he was great in basically every other game he played.

Also after Mahomes game against the falcons today, I don't think you can use the "garbage team" knock against Rodgers.

comochiefsfan 12-28-2020 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by IowaHawkeyeChief (Post 15427985)
Rodgers should win it this year, however, put him behind this line the last 5 weeks and he isn't near as effective as Mahomes.

Rodgers would flat out suck behind our line.

It is what it is though.

To win the MVP you gotta have a strong team around you and it just so happens that Rodgers is blessed with a great o-line while Mahomes dogshit one is probably the main reason he won’t bring home the trophy.

Halfcan 12-28-2020 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by comochiefsfan (Post 15428088)
Mahomes should’ve won this award this season. He had it all but locked up after the TB game.

Instead he essentially choked it away with very poor performances by his standards in 3 of the subsequent 4 games.

It sucks because I really wanted it for him, but it’s not gonna happen this year and I have to think this is one that he’ll look back on at the end of his career and kick himself a little for.

Oh well. On to bigger and better things.

10 wins in a row- including another 4th quarter comeback win today and a gutsy win against the best defense last week- and Mahomes Choked it Away!! :doh!:

BTW- Rodgers just had a worse game last week.

comochiefsfan 12-28-2020 12:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Halfcan (Post 15428098)
10 wins in a row- including another 4th quarter comeback win today and a gutsy win against the best defense last week- and Mahomes Choked it Away!! :doh!:

BTW- Rodgers just has a worse game last week.

I mean he did. We’ve won but he has four turnovers over those three games and totally flunked the eye test.

He hasn’t been “bad” by normal QB standards, but when you’re competing for the MVP you’re just held to a much higher standard. Like it or not he just hasn’t met that standard consistently enough recently.

And yes I think he played great against the Saints.

UChieffyBugger 12-28-2020 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15428070)
Ok so we have:

Wins: Mahomes
Yards: Mahomes
Touchdowns: Rodgers
Completion percentage: Rodgers
Interceptions: Rodgers
TD:INT ratio: Rodgers
Passer Ratings: Rodgers

STRENGTH OF SCHEDULE= MAHOMES
WINS AGAINST TEAMS OVER 500= MAHOMES
WINS AGAINST PLAYOFF TEAMS= MAHOMES

UChieffyBugger 12-28-2020 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15428090)
The schedule is the schedule. Other than the Bucs he was great in basically every other game he played.

Also after Mahomes game against the falcons today, I don't think you can use the "garbage team" knock against Rodgers.

That's a lie. He was shocking against the Jags and last week against Carolina. He has also played a soft schedule facing some of the worst teams in the league and also san fran who had their best players all injured. How many qb's have gone 14-1 and not got mvp? I'm not sure It's ever happened.

Halfcan 12-28-2020 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by -King- (Post 15428070)
Ok so we have:

Wins: Mahomes
Yards: Mahomes
Touchdowns: Rodgers
Completion percentage: Rodgers
Interceptions: Rodgers
TD:INT ratio: Rodgers
Passer Ratings: Rodgers

And Mahomes has:
More Wins
Completions
Yards
Yards per Game
Yards per Attempt
Rushing Yards
Rushing Yards Per Game
Rushing Yards Per Attempt
First Downs
8 Road Wins (Best in Chiefs History) against 6 Playoff Teams
10 Game win streak against a harder schedule than Rodgers
More 4th Quarter Comebacks
Better record and stats against the same teams.


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