Here's the sad thing.

IF a gay couple adopts a kid, they're not taking that kid from some straight couple. There are more than enough poor suffering children that need a home.

People actually think 'the system' is better for kids than the horror of being raised by a gay couple who would love them.

Yeah, I used all of my fingers and toes.

If any else comes out of the closet, this board is going to explode. Are we going to consolidate them? One thread for chicks, one for dudes? One thread for Hollywood, one for sports?

You seem to be ignoring the history of marriage. It's a "tradition" going back, what, a thousand years?

I agree. My wife and I adopted a son because we supposedly can't have children. The amount of children out there needing homes is huge. A child being raised by a gay couple is much better off than a child going through the system.

There are a lot of traditions that were thousands of years old that no longer exist as traditions.

Such as?

Good for you. That's heart-warming.

And, I tend to agree with the second part.

I don't know what the worst thing a gay couple can do to a young developing mind, but I know 'the system' churned out Charlie Manson.

So, yeah. Until they churn out someone worse, I'm sticking to that position.

Well, Slavery was an institution that was as old as recorded history (and likely older) and that's widely frowned upon world-wide now.

So... there's one thing. It still exists though, sadly enough. It's not legal in the civilized world though.

Neither of these criticisms has any merit in terms of undermining "my scenario". There's no requirement for a law to be designed to perfectly achieve an objective. It's enough that it pursues an approximation of that objective. That's why it's OK to use age to determine when people can do such things as entering into a binding contract. It's very likely that there are some 17 year olds who are more mature, intelligent and capable of responsibly entering into a contract than some 22 year olds, but for the sake of administrative simplicity we accept a bright line rule based on age because it achieves an adequate approximation of our goal.

Mega threads that are intended to be a catchall are horrible.

When I read your posts, I hear his voice. I wouldn't be surprised if you bore a physical resemblance to him either.

You stated that there were rational arguments for discriminating against homosexuals. When I and others asked you what they were, you didn't answer.

There is no lying in what I said. Here's your second chance to offer your rational arguments for discriminating against homosexuals.

No one should believe your characterizations.